Mini Not Performing Right (moved)

[cryfreedom66]

Hey I posted this over in the reo APV mod section but this board seems a little more active so I thought I'd include it here as well in the hopes someone who knows will read it.

My mini has been having issues lately it doesn't seem to be producing enough vapor on various attys and cartos. I was looking it over and am thinking maybe there is a mechanical issue with the positive battery terminal. I've included pictures if someone could tell me if this is how it's supposed to look or not...one is with the button pushed in one not pushed in.

 

[cryfreedom66]

here's one more photo for reference:

 

[Justice]

Im having hard time seeing your Pic but before you do anything it sounds most like maybe it just needs a bath. Take the bottle off batt out and wash it under hot water thoroughly. make sure to clean the attie threads real well. next take a fine nail file or sand paper and give the switch tip a gentle rub and re noalox it. ensure it is dry and vape see how it works now. I hope that solves it for you

 

[cryfreedom66]

Im having hard time seeing your Pic but before you do anything it sounds most like maybe it just needs a bath. Take the bottle off batt out and wash it under hot water thoroughly. make sure to clean the attie threads real well. next take a fine nail file or sand paper and give the switch tip a gentle rub and re noalox it. ensure it is dry and vape see how it works now. I hope that solves it for you

thanks for the advice, unfortunately that was the first thing i did. I dont know why but ecf seems to have turned my first two pics into links to an ad site....

The third one seems to work fine if you click it...very strange...

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Quick question...do you mash the button when you vape?
Is the spring discolored at all?
Have you metered your batteries coming off the charger?
Are some of these atties new or are these atties that you have been using for a while?

 

[cryfreedom66]

I think i fixed it! After more inspection, it seems that the terminal was bent downwards...which would explain why my button would always stick (the battery was getting stuck wedged between the bent terminal and the wall). I bent it flat and its much better....thanks for the replies!

 

[Rhapsodies Fire]

Well I'm glad you got it worked out. If you have any other issues...be sure to drop back in. You are also more than welcome to contact Rob (redeyedancer) directly. He is always happy to help.
If the metal tab (also known as the firing pin or positive battery contact) was bent anywhere besides the tip, it is a sign that you are probably mashing the button. Mashing the button will eventually break the positive battery contact. To run the REO, the button doesn't need much pressure. To learn what kind of pressure is needed to run the mod, you can simply hold it up by your ear, softly press the button until you hear the attomizer sizzle. If that doesn't work for you and you think you're still mashing the button, you can always try the button cover. It has really helped folks ease up on the button...and it is comfortable too. Delrin Button Covers
Welcome, cryfreedom66

 

[redeyedancer]

I think i fixed it! After more inspection, it seems that the terminal was bent downwards...which would explain why my button would always stick (the battery was getting stuck wedged between the bent terminal and the wall). I bent it flat and its much better....thanks for the replies!

The very tip of the positive contact is suppose to be bent down towards the bottom of the mod so only the very point makes contact with the battery . By bending it flat your not going to help the performance

 

[Justice]

If your Button is sticking it most likely means the button area is dirty and needs a clean

by bending it you will likely find the bar needs to be replaced if you try to rebend its likely to break

 

[cryfreedom66]

The very tip of the positive contact is suppose to be bent down towards the bottom of the mod so only the very point makes contact with the battery . By bending it flat your not going to help the performance

Thanks for the reply. I had a suspicion the bent tip may have been intentional but it was so short (as in the length it stuck out from the side) it was barely even making a connection with the tip...

and when id push the button down too far the battery would actually pop up so it was wedged between the terminal and the side of the mod, making no connection at all..which i'm sure isn't supposed to happen..

but either way bending it up has enabled it to make a connection with the tip of the battery and it seems to be performing well so hopefully this is a lasting solution.

 

[Justice]

I know you say you have it working but it is not right. What you describe is an impossibility with the correct battery. Which battery are you using ? Either way with the adaptation youve made you will have to press the button too far risking the firing pin breaking

 

[nerak]

Here is a picture of the firing in the correct position. This is not with the button depressed.

Your battery should fit like this. There is really no way a AW IMR will move to the side if it is the right battery for your REO.

 

[Justice]

Thanks Karen. I wasn't awake enuf to do that yet

 

[cryfreedom66]

Here is a picture of the firing in the correct position. This is not with the button depressed.

Your battery should fit like this. There is really no way a AW IMR will move to the side if it is the right battery for your REO.

I get what you're saying, maybe i described it incorrectly. If you compare your picture to mine, you can clearly see the "tab" that is the positive terminal is further over (to the right) in order to properly align with the pin at the top of the battery. Here I made a little drawing to show what I'm talking about (im bored)...



So because of how mine was originally, when id fully depress the button it would kind of click down and the battery would shift alittle causing it to not make a connection with the "pin"....and when firing normally it would just barely connect with the side. Idk any more than that and I can tell you without a doubt bending it has caused much better performance than it was previously...better than a properly manufactured one? Im not sure because mine was obviously messed up (judging from the picture you posted of the terminal vs how mine actually looked).


Edit: after thinking about this more objectively, I believe since as you said, its impossible for the battery to get wedged, what was actually happening was because the terminal was so short, the button was pushing past it when fully depressed which was causing it to not fire.

 

[cryfreedom66]

Here's a photo of how it looks now after I bent it into shape:

 

[FeistyAlice]

I've had a firing pin miss the top nipple of battery with an older REO. It was probably one that DH mashed too much for too long. (He is such a button smasher that he occasionally mashes the button cover down too far so that button can't depress enough to touch battery nipple. I just raise button cover by prying it up a bit but in future I'm going to put a little piece of something between button top and cover so it can't be pushed down too far.) I've had to flatten out the firing pin (by taking black cover off) on a couple of old ones that were subjected to too much mashing over time. I now have a rehomed Mini that straightening out the flat part of firing pin hasn't helped. The metal has been fatigued too much. It is sitting in line for a restoration with kit I ordered from REO. I will add that I have gotten one new REO, out of many, many, purchased new, that the firing pin was just not right from the beginning. This was before REO sold the rebuild kits so it went in to REO Spa for correction.

Feisty Alice

 

[redeyedancer]

Your welcome to send the mod to me I will replace the positive contact . If its running fine I would just run it .

 

[cryfreedom66]

Your welcome to send the mod to me I will replace the positive contact . If its running fine I would just run it .

I appreciate that you support your products, too rare in business these days. I love my mini and it has replaced my provari as my everyday pv. I'm going to hold on to it for now as it seems to be running fine (and I couldnt be without it for too long haha).

Thanks again.