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Mini pyrex pro-tanks not firing

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Oriana871

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Yeah... either the Protank is pushing them down somehow or it's just really not as forgiving as other tanks.

I've been using two different Pyrex carto tanks, Vivi's and oh yeah the Kanger MT3 (which sucked the bag IMO) and never experienced so much frustration. Usually it's just screw on and go.

I did watch that video, thanks. A little more than a drop or two come out of mine... so now when I'm filling I have to plug the tip or it's on my hands, another small but extra thing to deal with. Hey I bought it cause it would be easy to quickly fill up and off to the races but instead it's fiddle sweat fiddle :).
 

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I think some of the problem with your protank not firing properly is that the little rubber plug the pin goes into gets pushed into the head and since you are pulling the pin out in the head a bit, its still gets pushed back too far when you put it onto your PV. When you pull that little pin out also wiggle the rubber plug out a iota also. I understand the sheer frustration in your tank not firing and by trying to tighten it more just adds to the grief and squishing that rubber piece.
Cleaning the heads in alcohol or alcohol based liquid breaks down the rubber parts in the head and o-rings inwhich adds to the problem of the rubber plug getting pushed into the base of the head and it leaking. I just use the hottest water that comes out of the faucet. rinse thoroughly, blot the water off, dryburn and I have my protank heads last for weeks.

edit...Push a qtip up the mouthpiece of your protank ot T3 before you take it apart and you will have no juice leak out onto the your lap.
 
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I think some of the problem with your protank not firing properly is that the little rubber plug the pin goes into gets pushed into the head and since you are pulling the pin out in the head a bit, its still gets pushed back too far when you put it onto your PV. When you pull that little pin out also wiggle the rubber plug out a iota also. I understand the sheer frustration in your tank not firing and by trying to tighten it more just adds to the grief and squishing that rubber piece.

Thanks I'm going to try that, could be the issue. I just tried a completely different battery and the same thing, had to pull the pin up.

Also earlier today I pulled the pin up so far on another battery that it was up on an angle, so I thought, hmmm, I'll put on the Protank, it HAS to make a connection, the pin is like sticking way up. And still nothing. Evenutally I got it working but yeah don't want to go through that every time (hey it's a mini, it needs filling often).

Thanks everyone appreciate the help :).
 

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If u take a good look at your mini protank thread which is an external feature of the base, and then look closely at the coil which well be centered in the base threads, the coil bottom should protrude slightly further then the actual threads.

Let's say this is your thread bottom or face --------- The coil bottom should protrude beyond the thread like this ________

Some things are harder to put into words and I don't have a nice pic as an example, but if the coil pertrudes past the thread then u should have metal to metal contact with pin on battery when screwed together.

What we can't see is when mini is screwed into the battery, that we have this connection but what we can do is measure depth etc to verify these things.

So let us know if indeed the actual coil bottom protrudes past the bottom of the threads. Hope this helps a bit.
 

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My Vamo is extremely forgiving with the post placement with the heads. Many times they're just a wee bit recessed into the base and they fire just fine. The SVD, on the other hand, is far less forgiving and if it doesn't make contact with the head at all, it won't fire.

Never had that issue with the eGo batteries (Twists). Didn't matter where the head was in the base, they fired every single time.
 
If u take a good look at your mini protank thread which is an external feature of the base, and then look closely at the coil which well be centered in the base threads, the coil bottom should protrude slightly further then the actual threads.

Let's say this is your thread bottom or face --------- The coil bottom should protrude beyond the thread like this ________

Some things are harder to put into words and I don't have a nice pic as an example, but if the coil pertrudes past the thread then u should have metal to metal contact with pin on battery when screwed together.

What we can't see is when mini is screwed into the battery, that we have this connection but what we can do is measure depth etc to verify these things.

So let us know if indeed the actual coil bottom protrudes past the bottom of the threads. Hope this helps a bit.


Exactly what Ive been trying to say.

1) You have to PUSH the coil HARD, all the way in (not screw) to the base of your tank.

2) look at the bottom of your tank, is the Coil Pin SUNK UNDER the end of your threads. It needs to be flush or sticking out just a little (not too much or it will push your battery pin in).

3) If youve pushed the coil in 100% and the coil pin is not Flush or Pertruding from the bottom past the threads. Get a FlatHead screw driver and turn counter clockwise... like you are unscrewing it. Only a turn or two should bring it out far enough to touch the battery when attached.

4) If that doesnt work and its not your battery. I might say that your coils are messed up.
 

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The coil pin is under the threads or just flush.

I'm sorry everyone if you're getting frustrated. I tighten as much as I possibly can. Just can't see what more I can do. Is this tank made for super strong man-hands? If so they should put a big disclaimer on the box.

I put on a new head, was working ok, took it off to fill, been fighting with it for 15 minutes now trying to get it to fire. It works, go to sit down, doesn't fire. Get back up, fiddle more, it works, go sit down, doesn't fire. Get back up.... Really this is ridiculous. As much as I appreciate the tips and advice, I really don't care to carry around a screwdriver or a grip with me when I'm out and need to refill the tank. I don't care to push HARD every time I put the tank on. I should be able to just screw it on and be done.

Happens on both Twists and Spinners.

When it works I ... love it. A review on YouTube - the guy said the mini vapes even better than the regular size. Maybe I should make a video of myself putting it together. I'm not doing RBA's or anything fancy like that but I've been vaping for almost 1.5 years and don't think I'm an idiot who can't follow basic instructions on a box - which is what I do in this case. It should just work. It should be easy. I shouldn't be grunting and pushing and twisting that hard to put a tank on.
 

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The coil pin is under the threads or just flush.

I'm sorry everyone if you're getting frustrated. I tighten as much as I possibly can. Just can't see what more I can do. Is this tank made for super strong man-hands? If so they should put a big disclaimer on the box.

I put on a new head, was working ok, took it off to fill, been fighting with it for 15 minutes now trying to get it to fire. It works, go to sit down, doesn't fire. Get back up, fiddle more, it works, go sit down, doesn't fire. Get back up.... Really this is ridiculous. As much as I appreciate the tips and advice, I really don't care to carry around a screwdriver or a grip with me when I'm out and need to refill the tank. I don't care to push HARD every time I put the tank on. I should be able to just screw it on and be done.

Happens on both Twists and Spinners.

When it works I ... love it. A review on YouTube - the guy said the mini vapes even better than the regular size. Maybe I should make a video of myself putting it together. I'm not doing RBA's or anything fancy like that but I've been vaping for almost 1.5 years and don't think I'm an idiot who can't follow basic instructions on a box - which is what I do in this case. It should just work. It should be easy. I shouldn't be grunting and pushing and twisting that hard to put a tank on.

I can't speak for others but I am not getting frustrated, hehe. Really just hoping u find an easy way for the minis to work they way they're suppose to.

I'll keep trying as I think or read stuff for yah. I think we're also just trying to be as clear as possible, if I was on my PC which I rarely use these days, I'd take some pics and post, as it can be much easier to show then iterate sometimes.

But for now it would seem that possibly these minis could have an inherent flaw, cause as u say yes they should just screw on contact the battery and work work work, lol.

It could possibly be the diameter of the inner circumference of the threads not allowing the coil bottom to contact the battery pin, completely guessing here.....

How many different coils have u tried? If only 1-2 as that may be all u have on hand, then it's possible u have a bad batch of coils??
 

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You need to screw the atomizer head into the base of the protank, are you doing this? Once the atomizer head and base (the part the screws onto the mod) are 1, screw it onto the mod. Connect the base to the actual protank and tighten it down using the mod for leverage. When I first got the protank, I neglected to tighten the atomizer head onto the base part which did not allow a tight connection (resulting in leakage) and did not allow the center-post to contact the battery.
 

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You need to screw the atomizer head into the base of the protank, are you doing this? Once the atomizer head and base (the part the screws onto the mod) are 1, screw it onto the mod. Connect the base to the actual protank and tighten it down using the mod for leverage. When I first got the protank, I neglected to tighten the atomizer head onto the base part which did not allow a tight connection (resulting in leakage) and did not allow the center-post to contact the battery.

It's a Protank Mini, the head doesn't screw into the base directly, it is held in place by a ego-type cone which screws into the base. The head doesn't screw into anything, nada, nothing - all I can screw is the cone, which is screwing me :(

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It's a Protank Mini, the head doesn't screw into the base directly, it is held in place by a ego-type cone which screws into the base. The head doesn't screw into anything, nada, nothing - all I can screw is the cone, which is screwing me :(

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The atomizer head will screw into the base (far right in that photo). Screw the atomizer head in with the metal barrel pointing up as this will then go into the glass portion that holds the juice. Give it a try and you'll see it does. There are 2 threads on the atomizer just for this purpose.
 
If you tried what I and TheyFlyinJ suggested (including the screw driver trick) and its not working (but other tanks are working on that battery)....
It's time operate on your coil.

Take it appart and put it back together. It could be your coils are out of place or something else that just needs a nudge.

Watch this video for instructions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8FFhFYDd2Q

"He did it, you can do it to!"
 
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So reporting in, screwing it into the base has helped a bit, still not perfect.

Today someone wrote on Canvape's FB page with the same issue. From what I've gathered, it's not uncommon for the head to cause problems because it doesn't protrude enough.

A couple more links to people having issues to add to my previous list:

http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/1g52f5/kanger_protank_connection_issues/

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tank-issues/453517-kanger-protank-no-draw.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/fasttech/440599-x9-protank-fasttech-ego-battery-issues.html

etc. etc.

Apparently with verision 2 this issue will be fixed:

I have heard of issues with the thread/base which have apparently been fixed with the version 2.

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