Mixing Single Flavors

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minimalsaint

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I wanted to get into DIY with as little chemistry as possible, so I have been mixing single flavors. I bought 2 NET extracts from a vendor and then extracted 2 of my own tobaccos, and I have been happily mixing them solo for about a week- other than a little menthol or sweetener, I have been enjoying the simplicity of only adding one ingredient to my base.
I suppose it would depend on what you are trying to accomplish as far as flavors go...
 

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I started mixing on my 2nd day vaping. It wasn't much, didn't care for any of the 4 vendor juices I bought so I mixed 2 together and kinda liked it.

Then I bought DIY supplies my 3rd week of vaping. Started out with one flavor juices....added like 0.1 mill of another flavor to them to see what it did.

Became a mad scientist shortly thereafter.
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Yes, all replies make sense. I have 60+ flavors, though. Guess I'll start with "primary" flavors for each flavor subset (fruit, bakery, etc). It will be hard not to add some type of sweetener, though....

This is where I was. I starting my DIY experience with a ton of flavors and way more equipment than needed (my wife agrees). I had a similar question when I started, which wasn't long ago, trying to figure out mixing ideas. I got the same advice, mix single flavors first to see what they taste like and at what %. I am glad I did! I found that Kiwi double (TFA) by itself is sooooo yummy, no matter what fun mix I just made, I always end up going back to the kiwi after a few puffs.

I also found that some flavors (mango!!) aren't very strong which would make them hard to mix with. I guess you have your work cut out for you with 60 flavors :)
 

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Do you have an idea of what type of juice you're most interested in making?

My issue with having an abundance of flavorings is, I want to try them all immediately. Well, that was my issue at the beginning. Now 'n days, I try and stay focused on what type of blend I'm aiming to make, and put my effort into making it right (rather, finding the right flavorings for my goal blend).

This has been made mention, and I don't know if you're aware of this very simple trick, but, if you're looking to see if two or more flavors go well with one another, and don't wish to expend the nic/ingredients to blindly test it, you could always just mix the single flavors, and drip two or more flavors into one atty for taste testing (<-- run on sentence!)

If they taste like they may go well with one another, try mixing a small batch (also, as long as you mix the single flavors at a consistent %, you'll be able to discern, at least in some sense, how much of each flavoring you should mix in your blend. Or, in other words, you'll know that flavor 'x' is way more powerful than flavor 'y', so when mixing together, you'll adjust the ratios appropriately).

Clean the atty by vaping some straight PG, or VG, and you're good to go on another taste run.
 

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Clean the atty by vaping some straight PG, or VG, and you're good to go on another taste run.

My mind just spun. I have different attys for different "flavor types" and nic vs no-nic because I hate tasting the coffee when im making a fruit blend. So your saying vaping straight pg/vg will "clean" the flavor out for my next batch?!?! I am so happy right now :)

/turnoff nerd
 

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My mind just spun. I have different attys for different "flavor types" and nic vs no-nic because I hate tasting the coffee when im making a fruit blend. So your saying vaping straight pg/vg will "clean" the flavor out for my next batch?!?! I am so happy right now :)

/turnoff nerd

heres another way of cleaning out your atty:

get a 1-inch piece of silicone tubing. get a size that will accept the atty on one side, fitting snugly. then attach the other side to a large-ish syringe (10-20ml works great).
then get a pint glass of hot water and proceed to suck and dispell the water through the atty. let it dry and wham youre good.
if the flavor is particularly stubborn, repat the process with PGA (or vodka). this will also have a bonus effect: the atty will dry much faster with the evaporative properties of PGA. a few dry burn bursts will get you up and running in no time.

*this process can also be done with a turkey baster. check youtube if youre interested.
 

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This is where I was. I starting my DIY experience with a ton of flavors and way more equipment than needed (my wife agrees). I had a similar question when I started, which wasn't long ago, trying to figure out mixing ideas. I got the same advice, mix single flavors first to see what they taste like and at what %. I am glad I did! I found that Kiwi double (TFA) by itself is sooooo yummy, no matter what fun mix I just made, I always end up going back to the kiwi after a few puffs.

I also found that some flavors (mango!!) aren't very strong which would make them hard to mix with. I guess you have your work cut out for you with 60 flavors :)

I'm "hiding" everything in my office. My husband is aware but both of us seem to agree that perhaps the less said the better. ;)

Kiwi double, huh. I've got that! haha
 

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Do you have an idea of what type of juice you're most interested in making?

My issue with having an abundance of flavorings is, I want to try them all immediately. Well, that was my issue at the beginning. Now 'n days, I try and stay focused on what type of blend I'm aiming to make, and put my effort into making it right (rather, finding the right flavorings for my goal blend).

This has been made mention, and I don't know if you're aware of this very simple trick, but, if you're looking to see if two or more flavors go well with one another, and don't wish to expend the nic/ingredients to blindly test it, you could always just mix the single flavors, and drip two or more flavors into one atty for taste testing (<-- run on sentence!)

If they taste like they may go well with one another, try mixing a small batch (also, as long as you mix the single flavors at a consistent %, you'll be able to discern, at least in some sense, how much of each flavoring you should mix in your blend. Or, in other words, you'll know that flavor 'x' is way more powerful than flavor 'y', so when mixing together, you'll adjust the ratios appropriately).

Clean the atty by vaping some straight PG, or VG, and you're good to go on another taste run.

I like almost all flavors except the kool-aids and the butterscotches. Coffee, chocolate and fruit are my favorites. Having so many flavors around is having an opposite effect so far-- I'm pretty overwhelmed and I've spent a lot of time just staring.

I waver between the ideas of mixing individual flavors or starting with a "tried and true" formula.

I do know what you mean about mixing flavors on an atty (btw- although your sentence was a little wordy, it was not a run-on sentence **high school English teacher). You've given me a direction. I'll pick a category and mix on the atty.

Thank you, Levitas.
 

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This is where I was. I starting my DIY experience with a ton of flavors and way more equipment than needed (my wife agrees). I had a similar question when I started, which wasn't long ago, trying to figure out mixing ideas. I got the same advice, mix single flavors first to see what they taste like and at what %. I am glad I did! I found that Kiwi double (TFA) by itself is sooooo yummy, no matter what fun mix I just made, I always end up going back to the kiwi after a few puffs.

I also found that some flavors (mango!!) aren't very strong which would make them hard to mix with. I guess you have your work cut out for you with 60 flavors :)

I also have a bottle of Kiwi (Double) from TFA which I have not used yet. What percentage are using it at and does it require any steep time for the flavor to come thru? Any lemon juice or any other additives? PG/VG ratio? I'd appreciate a good starting point for this flavor.

Thanks
 

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How many of you mix up single flavors and combine as needed? Seems like a good place to start, but would love to hear from the mixologists.

TIA

I did in this a Lot when I first started doing DIY. Had an Entire rack of Steeped Flavors like Spices in a Spice Rack. Then I would blend them to taste.

Once I got a few Multi-Flavored Recipes done, I got a feel for how much of each Flavor in the Rack needed to be added for a effect.

I don't do Single Flavored Batches much anymore. I just kinda Freelance it.
 

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I also have a bottle of Kiwi (Double) from TFA which I have not used yet. What percentage are using it at and does it require any steep time for the flavor to come thru? Any lemon juice or any other additives? PG/VG ratio? I'd appreciate a good starting point for this flavor.

Thanks

My kiwi double is 50/50 pg/vg, zero nic, 17% flavoring - Done

I'll admit, I do have somewhat of a sweet tooth when it comes to my fruit flavors, but this one is not at all overwhelming. No steeping required (most fruits don't need to steep if im not mistaken), no additives no nothing. This was one of my "try the single flavors first" shots and it came out perfect the first time so I had no desire to change it.

I have found some "supporting" fruit flavors to be week, mostly strawberry and mango, but I will say that kiwi double from TFA has been my go to for fruit blends as well as straight. It has a strong flavor and blends with other fruits magnificently - It was the first flavor to bw added to my "next-order" wish list when I first started DIY. Good luck!
 

Nite_PHX

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Thanks for the reply seagull, exactly what I was looking for.

I completely agree with your assessment of the supporting fruit flavors. I have a couple different strawberry flavorings and I'll be damned if I can get a good, strong, just strawberry flavor juice. Now I'm excited to give this a try and then find out what flavors kiwi double supports. Lots of ideas running thru my head already.
 
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