Mod Batteries from FastTech and Ebay

[Baditude]

I don't normally start my own threads, preferring to simply help out others here who might benefit from my personal experience or knowledge. However, a potentially dangerous incident occured to one of our own novice vapors recently, which I strongly believe needs to be brought to the attention of all of ECF who purchase batteries for their mods from websites such as fasttech and Ebay, or any vendor for that matter.

Let me preface to say, I am not bashing these websites in any manner. If you know exactly what batteries you need and are able to determine that those batteries indeed are the correct ones from those websites, then you may do as you please. I just want all vapors to vape safely. Just consider what just happened:



A fellow novice ECF member recently purchased her first mechanical mod from fasttech. In a drop down menu, the following batteries were recommended by FastTech as a battery to use in that mod, which she also purchased. http://www.shareasale.com/r.cfm?u=5...ntic-sanyo-ur18500fk-18500-1700mah-37v-rechar

Upon inspecting the batteries when they arrived, she had the good sense to ask here on the forum if these batteries were safe to use in her new mod. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/462491-ok-use-ur18500-sanyo-batteries-my-mechanical-mod.html

It was finally determined that those batteries are in fact Lithium Cobalt Li Ion batteries (Li-Co), WHICH SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN ANY MOD. These are NOT PROTECTED and are NOT SAFE CHEMISTRY. One or the other is a requirement to be used in a mod.

Although I believe that consumers need to accept some responsibility to educate themselves of the appropriate batteries to purchase for their intended use, I also believe a vendor needs to accept some responsibility to suggest the correct batteries in a drop down menu to use with the mod they are selling, and not suggest a battery that is known to be inappropiate and could explode upon use in a mechanical mod.


So just a heads up! Make sure you know exactly what batteries you are buying and that they are the appropriate batteries to use for your intended purposes. DO NOT JUST ASSUME that a battery that accompanies a mod kit is the right battery for that mod or safe to use. Do your own research, or ask a veteran with more experience here.

I've written a blog on "Batteries Used in Mods: IMR or Protected" to help our ECF members decide which batteries are best for them. Please vape safely.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4848-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected.html

 

[Ref Minor]

Dyor.......

 

[Vwls]

Thanks for posting this, Bad. I would so hate to see anyone hurt themselves while vaping. It's definitely important to warn folks that on Fasttech in particular (and perhaps other sites), the batteries offered with a mechanical mod are not necessarily the right ones. Hopefully someone at FastTech pays attention to this forum and will rectify the issue. The Lithium Cobalt Li Ion batteries they sell should never be listed on the same page as e-cig products, and should also be tagged with a warning as to their incompatibility with mechanical mods.

 

[SissySpike]

Dyor.......

Maybe yall spell it different over there but here we spell it door ;-)

 

[HDVaper]

I just ordered a couple of mechanical mods from different vendors yesterday. I have some Panasonic CGR18650CH batteries that I ordered from Vapoligy. Will these work OK in the mechs? I also have some AW IMRs which I know will work but I have more of the Panasonics. Thanks in advance.

 

[SissySpike]

I just ordered a couple of mechanical mods from different vendors yesterday. I have some Panasonic CGR18650CH batteries that I ordered from Vapoligy. Will these work OK in the mechs? I also have some AW IMRs which I know will work but I have more of the Panasonics. Thanks in advance.

The Panys are fine

 

[HDVaper]

the panys are fine

thanks!!

 

[tj99959]

Good post Bad.

ALWAYS BUY BATTERIES FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE! Even if they cost a little more. Batteries are the wrong place to go bargain hunting. There are a lot of counterfeit batteries as well as batteries that are not suited for e-cig use. Looks like Fasttech doesn't make the list of trusted sources.

 

[SissySpike]

Good post Bad.

ALWAYS BUY BATTERIES FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE! Even if they cost a little more. Batteries are the wrong place to go bargain hunting. There are a lot of counterfeit batteries as well as batteries that are not suited for e-cig use. Looks like Fasttech doesn't make the list of trusted sources.

Sure they are you send them a little money you can trust them to send you something. It may not be what you need and its will most surely be very low quality in most cases but you can trust you get exactly what you pay for when ordering from Fastech

 

[Racehorse]

Batteries are the wrong place to go bargain hunting.

here here

I never understood trying to save $2 on a battery I'm going to use every day, day in and day out, for probably a year.

 

[Ref Minor]

Sure they are you send them a little money you can trust them to send you something. It may not be what you need and its will most surely be very low quality in most cases but you can trust you get exactly what you pay for when ordering from Fastech

It's more that you need to know what you need, FT sell Panasonic, Samsung and Sony as well as other less well known batteries.

 

[Vwls]

here here

I never understood trying to save $2 on a battery I'm going to use every day, day in and day out, for probably a year.

Lesson learned. I'm a bargain hunter by nature... this will end up costing me more than if I had just bought expensive batteries. I'm sure to get a refund, they'll make me ship these back to China. LOL the cost of doing that would be more than the product value. From now on, I'll only buy top of the line.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Don't buy this kit from anywhere.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1376701

Other vendors, even some stateside, are also selling this kit so the onus isn't just on FastTech. The batteries that come with it are ICR 18350 from a manufacturer called DKI. That's a Lithium Cobalt chemistry and the batteries have no protection. These batteries should never be used in a PV, or any other device that has high drain demand.

Discount Vapers is no longer selling this kit because of the shoddy quality charger and batteries.

 

[Ref Minor]

Don't buy this kit from anywhere.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1376701

Other vendors, even some stateside, are also selling this kit so the onus isn't just on FastTech. The batteries that come with it are ICR 18350 from a manufacturer called DKI. That's a Lithium Cobalt chemistry and the batteries have no protection. These batteries should never be used in a PV, or any other device that has high drain demand.

Discount Vapers is no longer selling this kit because of the shoddy quality charger and batteries.

For a few bucks extra you can get the below with a nitecore and Sony batteries.
$53.94 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod Battery Compartment Set with OLED Screen - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Sony 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

I'm sure Bad doesn't want this to become another bash FastTech thread, which is why I pointed out that several stateside vendors are also offering the same kit as the one I linked to. At least some of these vendors have recognized the danger and have either stopped selling them, or have posted warnings about the batteries and charger.

Fortunately, ECF is a fantastic resource for doing your own research. Don't rely on any vendor to properly identify and describe what you need. It's your job to figure out what kind of batteries and chargers you need, and go buy the best quality you can afford. Quality batteries, charged on quality equipment and used in the manner they were designed will rarely cause problems.

 

[SissySpike]

It's more that you need to know what you need, FT sell Panasonic, Samsung and Sony as well as other less well known batteries.

Sometime you just have to make the mistake. Every Mistake I ever made I was confident I knew what I was doing just moments before everything went wrong;-) Its the nature of mistakes.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

For a few bucks extra you can get the below with a nitecore and Sony batteries.
$53.94 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod Battery Compartment Set with OLED Screen - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Sony 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Well, since I already had two Panasonic IMR 18650B's and a Nitecore charger, I got the one I linked to, not knowing that the batteries included were the wrong type. I can use those batteries in some other, safer drain devices, so it wasn't a complete loss. I'm just glad I had resources like ECF at my fingertips to recognize those batteries for what they are, and set them aside.

 

[Vwls]

There's a lot going on over at Fasttech that is dangerous to new vapers now that I look closely. Here is an example: a whole page full of people asking if they can use Li-ion batteries in their mods:

$5.33 UltraFire 18350 3.7V 1200mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Batteries (2-Pack) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[SissySpike]

For a few bucks extra you can get the below with a nitecore and Sony batteries.
$53.94 Vamo V3 Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Mod Battery Compartment Set with OLED Screen - with Nitecore I2 US battery charger/charger cable/2*Sony 18650 batteries at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Personally Ill stick with RTD they have a little more vested interest in giving me top notch batteries and chargers. I could be wrong but I doubt Fastech knows and or cares if its getting counterfeits or relabeled bats and chargers. That charger is one of the most counterfeited chargers on the market.

The only way to be sure your getting the real deal is buying from someone who buys direct from the manufacturer. I just have a problem believing someone who specializes in clones is making sure they are selling me genuine products.

 

[nicetucu]

Don't buy this kit from anywhere.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1376701

Other vendors, even some stateside, are also selling this kit so the onus isn't just on FastTech. The batteries that come with it are ICR 18350 from a manufacturer called DKI. That's a Lithium Cobalt chemistry and the batteries have no protection. These batteries should never be used in a PV, or any other device that has high drain demand.

Discount Vapers is no longer selling this kit because of the shoddy quality charger and batteries.

This is freaking me out a little. I use these batteries in my vamo v3 along with pannys 18650's. I thought the vamo has protection built in and these would be fine. Used them in shorty and stacked mode for two months and have worked fine. After reading another thread about the exploding charger I didn't bother putting the pannys in because I knew I wouldn't be home for the entire charge and this is all I have for the better part of today lol. Ahhhh I'm a bit ...... right now (at myself). #@#$&*&^%$###$%%^^&