Pick me out a MOD

[veganvap]

This is my 1st mechanical and first time trying sub ohms.
Aparently no one wants to read my thread that turned into 3 pages. That thread got me this far though (thanks):

Battery: I'm getting these Sony 30A green batteries with a Nitecore i2 charger: $11.76 Sony US18650VTC3 18650 1600mAh 3.7V Rechargeable Li-ion Batteries (2-Pack) 2-pack - 30A discharge at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

I don't know what to enter for the max watts my coil builds will allow when I use an ohms law calculator, although I'm almost certain there won't be a problem because everyone raves about these doing like .2ohm, and I'll probably be around .6. I found charts that show the 30A Sony aparently pushing like 80 Watts, but no defined #.

MOD: I read that an inline fuse plus a hot spring would stop the spring from collapsing if it gots too hot, so I'm going to omit buying a fuse and get one with a hot spring. I prefer it to be just stainless and/or aluminum, and not plated or brass etc.

I looked through all the Fasttech MODs for ones with springs, hoping they're hot spring. I assume the springs in sideways buttons don't count as safety springs, and I don't think sideways buttons can even be locked by unscrewring the nut that prevents the button being pushed like some have.

Out of these linked, which are all I found with springs, which have a hot spring and also the firing button can be physically locked to prevent misuse? I also want vent holes, but can drill them if needed. Someone mentioned Aluminum 510 threads are a no no. And, the switch can be scratchy on many mods. Watch out for low quality metal to metal moving switch parts which can wear and become sticky.

$17.17 Telescope-5 Mechanical Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$17.44 Telescope-II Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$19.45 TELESCOPE Mechanical Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - silver / stainless steel / Telescoping at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$17.46 Telescope-II Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Can remove plastic ring over k100 spring to make it a hot spring?
$19.15 K100 Style Mechanical Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - blue at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$18.84 Swordsman Mechanical Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - deep blue / telescoping at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

$12.71 Private V2 Telescoping Mech Mod E-Cigarette Battery Compartment at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping


Edit: Suprisingly looks like only this last one ^ whch probably has no venting and two of the sigeili #3 clones (telescope w/ vent) I linked are the only ones with springs and a fire button that can be physically locked. Unless the K100 can remove the plastic ring for a hot spring effect. Just making sure before I buy anything, which will probably be a Telescope.

2nd Edit: Two of the 4 Telescopes I linked have springs, but one has the spring at the top near the 510. That would stop it from working as a hot spring, right? So, are these the only FT MOD that has what I'm asking for?: http://www.fasttech.com/products/1411/10005189/1408900-telescope-mechanical-mod-e-cigarette-battery

http://www.fasttech.com/products/14...elescope-5-mechanical-mod-e-cigarette-battery

Here's all the FT MODs in case I missed something. Maybe some have hot springs hidden in the firing button that I can't see in the photos or something. 228 Electronic Cigarettes (Product Type: Mod / Battery Compartment) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping


Thanks.

 

[bones1274]

Take a look at the Reo Grand. It has a built in hot spring and lockable button. With the AW IMR 1600 mah 18650 battery, you can safely do .6 ohms.

 

[danca90]

The K100, and the V2 both seem to be tried, and true. I'd go K100 based on the reviews.
Also, keep in mind, you may want to order batteries stateside.

 

[Baditude]

I highly recommend that you do plenty of research before you build your first coil, and don't attempt sub ohm coils until you are able to consistantly build 1.0 ohm or higher coils safely. Rebuildables are advanced delivery attachments which require you know exactly what you are doing safely.

You must have a digital multimeter and know how to use it. You must check the ohm of your coil before you fire it, and recheck it routinely thereafter. This is critical.

Know what signs to look for when you have a short. A hot battery, a hot switch, or a hot mod means something is wrong. Stop using it, and check for a short, most likely with your coil. Look for "hot spots" in the coil. Learn how to trouble shoot.

Rebuildable Atomizer Resource Guide

Cloud Chasing is Dangerous

Mechanical Mod Proper Usage Guide

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected?

 

[veganvap]

Thanks.
No thanks on the $100+ Reo Grand with internal juice bottle which is wasted real estate for me.

The K100, and the V2 both seem to be tried, and true. I'd go K100 based on the reviews.
Also, keep in mind, you may want to order batteries stateside.

The Telescope is a Sigeili #3 clone, so it must be good too. From what I'm being told about hot springs and that the K100 likely can't be altered to have a hot spring, the Telescope seems like the best choice. I'm just not sure.

 

[veganvap]

I know all that ^ (minus of couse I'm sure there's probably a bunch of stuff in the links I don't know, but I'm not trying to master sub ohms just yet, I juse want them). I could build coils in the dark probably.

Just curious, how do you have so many pictures of blown up batteries if you know so much?

From one of your links: "4.Check yoru battery constantly. Take 10 hits on some super vape set up... check the battery. Change it at the appropriate time."

Doesn't risk decrease as the batterie's used because the Volts drop?

 

[Papadragon]

Wow was that a long read !!! My brain when numb .. Your good you did your homework !! Happy vaping .. You don't need help you have all the knowledge you need .. Your wrote it all down just read your post for help !!

 

[patrao_n]

When using the ohms law checker you dont need max watts. You input the volts and the ohm you want. So for my builds I enter 0.8 ohms. And for voltage just as a safety I put 4.2 always. You would probably not be able to ever fire a coil with 4 2 volts because of the drop. But if my amps are about 70% or less of its rating when calculating with 4.2 I feel pretty safe about the build.

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[LEE9476]

I just read this while vaping my K100, popped it apart, pulled the spring out of the bottom, removed the delrin insulator, reassembled with the bare spring, and it fires without pressing the button at all. All in all probably not a good sign if you're looking to try to replace the stock spring with a hot spring, however, I do not know if a hot spring will work with the delrin insulator in place so you might want to give the K100 a pass even though it is a well performing mod

 

[Rickajho]

Can remove plastic ring over k100 spring to make it a hot spring?

That would be - no. That plastic ring is the insulator that stops the K100 from being in a permanently firing state. A post that comes up through the center of the insulated spring is how it fires. Take the insulator out and it's permanently on.

 

[vjc0628]

Wow with your post's
Seems you have all the answer's

but why do you ask?

 

[veganvap]

Just making sure it's safe, vjc0628.

I see what you's mean about the K100's delrin insulator. It looks like mods with legit hot springs have the insulator on the end of the spring furthest from the battery (there has to be something non-conductive so it's not constantly firing).

I guess the hot spring only works if you hold the PV vertically while vaping and not on an angle which wouldn't allow the battery to drop away from the 510 connection if it got hot enough to melt the spring.

I'm pretty much set on this one and will drill out a couple extra vents. Only difference from the other almost identical one for like $2 more is an extra 3mm for battery space I won't need.
$17.17 Telescope-5 Mechanical Mod / E-Cigarette Battery Compartment - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

 

[H1ST]

i recently bought a sigelei 19e which has had all the kinks sorted, it works brilliantly out of the box and comes in stainless, i think you can add a hot spring to it too

 

[veganvap]

^that mod has a top spring near the 510 that wouldn't allow the batt to fall away from conducting if it got hot enough to melt the spring. I might be able to mod it, but I'm just getting into mechs. I'm not really worried with a 30A battery and .5 ohm coils give or take .1. I might end up vaping 1.2ohms.

The ohms calculator says I can do something like a .12234 ohm at 3.7 and still be under 30A, and I won't go near that ohm (yes I know batts are like 4.2 fully charged).
I'll probably order the Telescope tomorrow. Thanks everyone for your help.

 

[jcalis1394]

If it's within your budget, I'd say give a REO a try. Milled aluminum body that will outlast you, along with fully user repairable parts, among other things. If not, give any alternative bottom feeder a try. Paired with an RDA and micro coils, flavor just doesn't get any better than that (since it's essentially dripping). If you are going sub ohms, beware of cheap mods as conductivity should be #1 priority. A mod with a high voltage drop will be a real PITA, as you'll get a lot less wattage out of sub ohms, and it will drain your battery life harshly. As for batteries, the Sony 30A are great for sub ohms, and so are the AW IMR 18650 1600 mAh.

Even though those batteries will most likely handle a hard short safely, make sure your mod has the proper safety features. You seem fairly knowledgeable but it never hurts to once again mention how important it is to avoid a short.

 

[veganvap]

I'm glad the Sony 30A "will most likely handle a hard short safely". It's not like I won't check the coils with a multimeter before firing and periodically, but you never know. It could bump around and wires shift and overlap etc, or maybe too much juice can cause conductivity between the coils and the atty body, or too much wicking stuffed can push a coil wrap against a post when putting the drip cap back on. I have some pretty thick ribbon kanthal that doesn't like to stay in place like thin round kanthal.

Gunk builds up on coils especially from %100VG, and I noticed the ohms can drop quite a bit. Aparently the crud becomes conductive through a molecular structure change or something and makes the wire 'thicker' i.e. lower resistance which might exceed the battery ratings.

Good point about possible voltage drop with cheap MODs. I guess the springs material and 510 pin is what matters, and not the body. I think I'll be all right with the Telescope. I'll probably order it tonight. I have to find a good multimeter now since I have to check battery volts and the ohms, which is no fun.

I can't wait for there to be a bunch of regulated 40W mods smaller and cheaper than the new Gi2 dual 18650 to protect and bypass most of this for high-watt vaping.