Avoid using the battery. Rebuild that atty and use it on a different mod. Glad you're okay.
Mod set on fire!
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Ok I just went and got it. Pulling the battery must have stopped the fire because it doesn't look that bad considering flames were shooting out. The screen is all yellow now and the wood on one side has finish that bubbled up. It stinks horribly.
Something in there was pulling power from the battery prior to this happening. I say that because the chip indicated the battery was at about 4.1v the last time I vaped on it. The battery now reads 3.56v on the DMM. So during that 70 minutes or so I hadn't used it, it drained the battery.
I took pics before putting it in a sealed container due to the stench. My phone is charging, but I'll post them when I can.
I've checked all of my mods to see which ones can be turned off, not just locked. Anything that can't be turned off I will be removing batteries on when I'm not able to watch them.
Something in there was pulling power from the battery prior to this happening. I say that because the chip indicated the battery was at about 4.1v the last time I vaped on it. The battery now reads 3.56v on the DMM. So during that 70 minutes or so I hadn't used it, it drained the battery.
I took pics before putting it in a sealed container due to the stench. My phone is charging, but I'll post them when I can.
I've checked all of my mods to see which ones can be turned off, not just locked. Anything that can't be turned off I will be removing batteries on when I'm not able to watch them.
I'm glad you're OK.. I'm also glad it was reported by an experienced member such as yourself. Folks need to realize that many of these devices are being rushed out of the factories due to high demand, and QC / QA could be expected to suffer as a result.
I get tired of seeing some posts from members practically excusing this shoddy manufacturing, both in the electronics, and mod construction. IMO, even a small percentage of failures such as yours is NOT acceptable. Folks should not have to assume a risk of fire in any way, shape, or form when purchasing these devices. It cannot even be remotely compared to assuming risks of having UL listed appliances in one's home, or the other mainstream consumer goods available to us.
IMO, as long as folks keep opening their wallets for these cheaply-constructed devices, and create a large demand, the manufacturer's will continue the seemingly growing trend of allowing a number of these devices which are potentially dangerous, to slip into the hands, and homes of consumers.... Not acceptable. Barring folks getting together and filing class-action law-suits against whichever party responsible (surely on the horizon as incidents increase), the other solution is to speak with your hard-earned $$, and stop supporting these companies by purchasing their devices.. They would quickly get the message, and QC / QA should improve across the board.
I get tired of seeing some posts from members practically excusing this shoddy manufacturing, both in the electronics, and mod construction. IMO, even a small percentage of failures such as yours is NOT acceptable. Folks should not have to assume a risk of fire in any way, shape, or form when purchasing these devices. It cannot even be remotely compared to assuming risks of having UL listed appliances in one's home, or the other mainstream consumer goods available to us.
IMO, as long as folks keep opening their wallets for these cheaply-constructed devices, and create a large demand, the manufacturer's will continue the seemingly growing trend of allowing a number of these devices which are potentially dangerous, to slip into the hands, and homes of consumers.... Not acceptable. Barring folks getting together and filing class-action law-suits against whichever party responsible (surely on the horizon as incidents increase), the other solution is to speak with your hard-earned $$, and stop supporting these companies by purchasing their devices.. They would quickly get the message, and QC / QA should improve across the board.
One of the weird things is I've had this mod at least 6 weeks I think. And never saw anything about it to concern me. The workmanship seemed good. I loved the chip.
Sadly, that janky istick 20W has been working fine for almost 6 months
Sadly, that janky istick 20W has been working fine for almost 6 months
Very well said.
Thank you.
Too many people accept poor manufacturing and some even blame it on "user error".
This kind of garbage will eventually hurt the Vaping Community.
Eric
Can i ask on what basis the battery has been marked for disposal, since a Samsung battery discharging to 3.56v is hardly cause for concern?
Was the battery at fault or the electronics?
I realise safety first and all that, but is strikes me that a battery just supplies power without any 'intelligent' circuitry.
T
Was the battery at fault or the electronics?
I realise safety first and all that, but is strikes me that a battery just supplies power without any 'intelligent' circuitry.
T
I don't know if the battery is safe or not ?? Honestly, it appears to be, but should I take that chance? I don't know. Its a $6 battery.
I would say it was the electronics caused the fire because that's the side the fire was on. The flames appeared to be coming from the chip. The battery and atty were on the other side. Something in the chip or a solder joint is the likely malfunction.
Unless the battery was actually hot when you took it out, it might be fine.
From your description, sounds like something went wrong in the electronics and it was probably either firing or otherwise draining the battery for an hour;
of course you'd want to mark the battery to keep track of it.
That is scary roxy. Glad you were nearby when it happens. Can't imagine if the fire spread. Yikes!
Hope you get response from focalcig or hotcig soon. This is terrible.
Hope you get response from focalcig or hotcig soon. This is terrible.
It wasn't hot when I pulled it. The atty wasn't either. The front of the mod...well, fire is hot
. I could touch the wood inside (thankfully), but not the SS on the front.
I joined alibaba in order to contact Hotcig, which I did.
I'm not going to hold my breath on Hotcig responding. I'm quite sure Focal will.
I'm not going to hold my breath on Hotcig responding. I'm quite sure Focal will.
I would toss the battery as you intend Roxy, it could have discharged at a higher rate than is safe for it, for a very short time, and caused internal damage that could have ugly consequences later. So for $6, its a disposable item. It may be fine, it may not be, it cannot be known or measured unfortunately.
ETA - sorry to hear this happened, it would be a bit nerve-wracking at the least.
ETA - sorry to hear this happened, it would be a bit nerve-wracking at the least.
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I just want to propose a toast for 3 pages without any hindsight asshattery
there is one person here who will downplay it and say its not a big deal, and we should accept a small number of issues with mods like fires.
Question, does the sx zero mod ( clone ) have protection against short circuit, reverse polarity and temp control?
To be fair to Yihi that is not a Yihi chip in there but just a clone much like the device itself.
I am glad you were near it when this happened as otherwise the effects could have been tragic.
Got any pics you care to share of the device?
I find that hard to believe. Doesn't damage to a battery show up as increased internal resistance which can be measured?
In the same way that old batteries gradually diminish in performance.
It occurs to me that if you are right, nobody has any idea about ANY battery, even a brand new one.
T
Not temp control, but the other safety features, yes.
It is a Yihi chip. That was confirmed through impeccable sources before I bought it. I also tested it across the voltage range, and the most it was off was 3/1000 of a volt. I'm not blaming Yihi. Its most likely a Hotcig issue. I have 5 other mods with Yihi chips.
I took pics, but my phone needed to charge. Pretty soon I should be able to post them.
Yeah, I don't know the answer either.
I'm cheap so don't want to recycle a good battery. But, its a $6 battery that could wreck another mod or cause injury. The safest thing to do would be to replace it.
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