Mod works 18650 batteries vs. Sony vtc5 18650
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When you say sub ohm builds, are you using a regulated APV (if so which one?)or a mech? How low are you thinking of going?
I've not heard of Mod Works batteries, can you provide a link to a vendor or a spec sheet for them?
I will say that VTC5 batteries are hard to find. You may see them on Ebay or other auction sites, but there are a lot of counterfeits out there and because of that, I can't recommend those either.
If you genuinely want a 30 amp battery, there are few choices. One is the VTC4 which can be purchased from RTD vapor or Illumination supply and the other is the Orbtronic SX30.
Another option for some builds would be the LG HE2 or HE4, Samsung 25R, or even the Aw 18650 20 amp. Each of these brands are very good quality batteries and can be considered safe for most vaping uses, again, depending on certain criteria.
I've not heard of Mod Works batteries, can you provide a link to a vendor or a spec sheet for them?
I will say that VTC5 batteries are hard to find. You may see them on Ebay or other auction sites, but there are a lot of counterfeits out there and because of that, I can't recommend those either.
If you genuinely want a 30 amp battery, there are few choices. One is the VTC4 which can be purchased from RTD vapor or Illumination supply and the other is the Orbtronic SX30.
Another option for some builds would be the LG HE2 or HE4, Samsung 25R, or even the Aw 18650 20 amp. Each of these brands are very good quality batteries and can be considered safe for most vaping uses, again, depending on certain criteria.
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I have all of the above, plus have recently been using green Imren. Some people might get on me for recommending a less tested Chinese battery, but the Green Imren I have been using output higher voltage under load and last longer than my big-name batteries. They are perfect for my unregulated mods.
Considering that Imren do not manufacture batteries, I struggle to come up with a brand of battery that they can rewrap that can outperform the ones I mentioned in my previous post.
All I am saying is that used in an unregulated mod with voltmeter, my output is slightly higher with the green Imren than it is with Samsung 25r, LG He4, or even the Sonys. And I totally called it that someone who hasn't tried it would put them down. The batteries work with sub-ohm builds and they have low internal resistance.
How do your mod works batteries perform in comparison to the name brands? Numbers would be nice
except for mod works batteries. I have never heard of those. I currently use Sony VTC5 (authentic) that are working well, plus a few Sony VTC5 that look like re-wrapped Samsung 25R (these work well too, but I don't push them quite as hard...), I have a good amount of Samsung 25R which work well, a handful of LG HE4, and 3 Green Imren High Drain (labeled 38A, but I think the continuous drain is probably around 25A). I use these with a lot of mechs and unregulated mods... more than most local B&M vape stores would carry. I also have tried a few other brands of high-drain batteries which are not currently in my rotation. The ones I mentioned work well.
I agree that it is hard to find authentic VTC5. And that you have to be very careful when selecting batteries, especially if using low resistance builds on a mech or unregulated mod. And I agree that mod works batteries should probably be avoided, unless more experienced vapers are willing to test them out and possibly junk them if garbage.
I agree that it is hard to find authentic VTC5. And that you have to be very careful when selecting batteries, especially if using low resistance builds on a mech or unregulated mod. And I agree that mod works batteries should probably be avoided, unless more experienced vapers are willing to test them out and possibly junk them if garbage.
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www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/664712-another-battery-joins-market.html
Samsung 25r smokes all of the imren rewraps
18650 Battery Tests
The only known battery to beat the 25r was the vct5
Whether a battery " seems" to perform good or not, what is an issue is how people are willing to defend companies that rewrap unknown cells, lie about output and charge more for doing it. How can people feel good supporting that? I'm pretty sure no one would feel the same way about something they bought at best buy or walmart
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/batteries-chargers/664712-another-battery-joins-market.html
Samsung 25r smokes all of the imren rewraps
18650 Battery Tests
The only known battery to beat the 25r was the vct5
Whether a battery " seems" to perform good or not, what is an issue is how people are willing to defend companies that rewrap unknown cells, lie about output and charge more for doing it. How can people feel good supporting that? I'm pretty sure no one would feel the same way about something they bought at best buy or walmart
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I am not sure exactly how to read that chart. To me it looks like the Imren has higher voltages when both batteries are fresh? Which part is the 10 second firing? And what are the voltages?
I think the 25R are good batteries too. I am just sharing my own personal experience that the green imren are working very well.
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The only reason why I put Imren down as a company is the same reason why I dislike efest - the consistent and deliberate overstatement of specs.
I think it's a cynical practice that could potentially have serious consequences for the end user.
I'm not saying Imren don't rewrap quality batteries, I'm not saying that re-wrapping is in itself dangerous or there's anything shady about it (take AW as an example of how it should be done)
Does anyone know what cells Imren are re-wrapping?
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The line shows under load. Modwerx is claiming to have a battery that actually runs longer under full 38 amp load then at 2 amps which means somehow they broke the laws of physics or there is a whole lot of missing information on how they did the test.
the other chart is a pulse chart the spike is when they let off the button, You can clearly see the imren line at a lower voltage under load and doesn't last as long.
And like the other poster, I'm not saying they won't work well or they didn't use a good cell. But I'm not understanding why people trust blind marketing, so far there is no battery proven to have a 38 amp cont discharge, this is not saying a good cell cannot hold its pulse voltage. But that's not what it is designed for. Too many people are going " well the label says so that's good enough for me" mxjo, modwerx imren and others are taking full advantage of people who don't ask for proof.
And people are going to get hurt what happens if someone decides to rewrap an ICR and call it an imr? An imr will usually die if shorted. Some chemestries are known to be pretty violent when they have decided to go
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And just so its clear, they are claiming the modworx is an exclusive to them cell.
No battery manufacturer in the world is going to produce a superior cell, and then delegate it to a few 1000 sales when they can make billions of $$$ on the world market. So that shows a bit of dishonesty to me
Its different when Tesla says panasonic designed a cell just for us, when a pack uses 2000 cells and they sell 40k packs a year, but a vape shop, or any company claiming to have invented a cell just for vapors? When that's a smaller market then say. Power packs for cordless tools is just hard to swallow. I cannot believe any company would invest r&d for a few 1000 sales.
No battery manufacturer in the world is going to produce a superior cell, and then delegate it to a few 1000 sales when they can make billions of $$$ on the world market. So that shows a bit of dishonesty to me
Its different when Tesla says panasonic designed a cell just for us, when a pack uses 2000 cells and they sell 40k packs a year, but a vape shop, or any company claiming to have invented a cell just for vapors? When that's a smaller market then say. Power packs for cordless tools is just hard to swallow. I cannot believe any company would invest r&d for a few 1000 sales.
yeah, i noticed that subohmcell in the top chart. That thing puts out under load. But KidneyPuncher is selling a single cell for $17, which I think is a bit much for a battery with cells from unknown manufacturer.
Or maybe KidneyPuncher is being a bit disingenuous with their charts.
Or maybe KidneyPuncher is being a bit disingenuous with their charts.
I just want some expert to test this .... out my Samsung whatever the .... they are takes less time to heat up the coils than these so called "blows vtc 5's out the water" bull .... I need answers cause I love a avail but if they ....ed with me then i can't have that
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