More Power!

[InfinityMax]

I've been using a Joye 510 for about three months now, and it's working pretty well. But what I'm finding is that I want more vapor and more hit and longer battery life. I want to blow out a cloud of vapor that obscures my vision. I want a hit on the back of my throat like I was inhaling a dust storm, and for the love of God, I want a battery that lasts longer than 20 minutes.

I vape pretty much continuously. I would feel moderately bad about that if I still smoked, but since I've completely ditched the ol' coffin nails (and the cigars - I used to smoke a ton of cigars), I don't give a crap if I'm more hooked on vapor than I ever was on tobacco. I use the strongest juice I can find, and I could still get more nicotine in three minutes with a cigarette than I can get in three hours with a vaporizer.

I'm thinking of getting a new PV, but I'm not sure what to get. I don't care what it looks like - it could be as big as a car battery and start up like a motorcycle, if it would get the job done. Obviously, it would be nice if it were portable, but it's far more important that I get the kind of hit I used to get when I smoked cigars. A cigar can make this plume of smoke that can blot out the sun, and it hits like a blowtorch to the back of your throat. I miss that a lot, but I don't miss coughing up tarballs the size of a grapefruit every morning, so I'm not going back. I just want something better than my 510. Something awesome.

Any advice from someone who has a double-down serious PV?

 

[DonDaBoomVape]

First of all, let me say that I enjoyed your rant!

Second, there is more than one "double-down serious PV." And "PV" is a misleading term in this context. What delivers the attributes that you (and most vapers) are looking for is a combination of: atomizer model, atomizer resistance, battery mAh, battery voltage, and e-liquid (its nicotine level, PG/VG balance, flavor, and how the mixer puts it all together).

• I'm going to pass on getting into e-liquid here.

• Atomizer model preference varies from vaper to vaper. The most popular is the one you've been using, the 510. It's vapor production is extraordinary. The compatible Joye 306 (atty, not tiny battery) is becoming increasingly popular. The DSE901 is the "tried and true" (and one of the two most common mod fittings). And Kr8 cartomizers continue to be popular. My favorite is the penstyle (e.g., DSE801 or Joye 302): I get much more TH and better flavor from it than any other atty. [NOTE: I've never tried the 306.] And some vapers like the M401 or RN4081, although there are few mods designed for them.

• Atomizer resistance (measured in ohms) and battery voltage go hand in hand: equally important in creating the power (i.e., intensity) of the vape (e.g., TH and vapor), measured in watts. The formula is:

Watts = Volts X Volts / Ohms​

I've attempted to summarize (in a manner accessible to non-techies like me) how this works here (bottom half of page). Basically, to increase the intensity of the vape: increase battery voltage (e.g., 5V) or decrease atomizer resistance (e.g., LR attys); not both.​

• Today's PV batteries range in recharge frequency from 90 mAh (puff-recharge-puff-recharge) of the smallest super-minis to 4000 mAh of the largest capacity mods (e.g., the Tekk).

Putting the hardware aspects of all this (i.e., other than e-liquid) together, my suggestion is:

1. Try out the various models of atomizer (e.g., 306, 801, Kr8 cartomizer) in addition to the 510 you already know. You might also want to check out other attys, like the M401 and RN4081 ... and 510 cartomizers.

2. Think about what level of mAh you really want: 650 (the eGO), 750 (the Riva or most of the mods using stacked 3.0 batts), 900 (the Mega eGO or 14500-based mods), 1300 (the Hello 016), ~2500 (the 18650-based mods), or 4000 (two 18650s in parallel).

3. If 750 mAh is enough for you, then you can go with an HV (high-voltage) mod or variable voltage mod (e.g., Buzz, Little Sister, Big Brother) as the way to increase the intensity of the vape. [IMO, now that variable voltage mods are available, I don't see the point of fixed 5V, 6V, 7.4V mods, other than perhaps form factor. The odds are pretty good that a vaper will prefer, for example, 4.8V or 5.3V to any fixed voltage.]

4. If you want more mAh than that (and/or would prefer the smaller form factor of the "Fat Batts" (e.g., eGO/Tornado, Riva, Hello 016), then you will need to rely on LR attys to increase vape intensity. LR atomizers (801 or 510) are available at 1.5 ohms, 2.0 ohms, and 2.5 ohms. NOTE: 2.5 is "low" for the 3.5 ohm 801, but not for the 2.3 ohm 510). There also is a 1.5 ohm 306 and 2.0 ohm 901.

5. Then go search out the PVs that fit the bill on ViZi's outstanding guide to mods (including fat batts) and the relevant atomizers (e.g., including the 2.0s and 2.5s at IkenVape).​

FYI: My favorite PV at the moment is the 2.5 ohm 801 atomizer with adapter on a true 3.7V battery (either the Kr8 or a good 3.7V mod). Virtually the same is the semi-LR (unspecified ohm) EastMall 801 (either on its own battery or on those 3.7s). When I can put together $135, I want to put those attys on the Ali'i (one of the 18650-based, juice-fed box mods). Of course, if I get a variable voltage Little Sister, I can use my formerly-beloved Joye 302 attys again.

 

[Kent C]

Yep. You want wattage and some VG in the ejuice would help. Two good references for watts:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cts-maam-no-chit-chat-please.html#post1687242

Ohm's Law Calculator