More than 25,000 vapes swept from Aberdeenshire roads and drains every month

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    zoiDman

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    More than 25,000 vapes swept from Aberdeenshire roads and drains every month.

    Wow... That's a lot of of Disposables. In fact, it comes out to about 830 a day.

    Not bad considering that Wikipedia say's that the Entire Aberdeenshire region has a total population of around 264k.
     

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    The good news is that I have never bought a disposable. (or a pod)
    Fact is ... everything I have is 10 years old, or older.

    The only thing that goes in the trash is an inch or so of wick & wire.
    Being as I mix my own liquids, vaping is pretty cheap these days.
    Wick & wire & a bit of paper towel is the only vape trash I have trashed in the last 10 years. Of the 6 mods that I have, one is a (regularly used) mech that is at least 8 years old, and a (regularly used) regulated mod that I've had for close to that 10 year period. I have 2 pairs each of 18650's, 18500's, and 21700's. I have an external battery charger. The lions that I use in my mods are at least 3.5 years old, and I still have a few that are older and I don't use for vaping anymore. They are used in several flashlights and little fans that I have.

    My roommates' two oldest grandsons have birthdays coming up, they'll be 18 & 20. They both vape a dispo when they can. They both 'borrow' cigarettes from her when they can't. I am seriously debating with myself to get them some pods and 'vape education'.

    I have already had some interesting discussions with the oldest about vaping history and facts, and he was quite surprised when I told him, and then showed him with a physical breakdown, that a mech mod and a simple regular flashlight operate the same way.

    I have seen a few adult like people using dispo's instead of smoking cigarettes, and that makes me happy. Unfortunately most, probably all, of of these occurrences have been women using those things, usually right next to their smoking husband/boyfriend. I sometimes tip my hat to them, and I'm sure eventually one of the cigarette smokers is gonna say, "I only smoke REAL cigarettes", to which I'll probably reply, "And eventually you're gonna get REAL sick".
     

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    If you don't know, I am NOT a fan of disposables. They have a huge markup, which is great for vape stores' bottom line. I am not much into single-use anything.

    More than 25,000 vapes swept from Aberdeenshire roads and drains every month

    That's crazy, do they all end up in a landfill?
    I saw an article the other day that said the UK has about 10 tons of lithium being sent to landfills or waste incinerators each year.

    Imagine what damage this is doing to the environment. I'm starting to think disposable vapes should be banned. Or do some tracking and registration when they are purchased. If they are found to be disposed of incorrectly, fines can be issued.
     

    boo2600

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    That's crazy, do they all end up in a landfill?
    I saw an article the other day that said the UK has about 10 tons of lithium being sent to landfills or waste incinerators each year.

    Imagine what damage this is doing to the environment. I'm starting to think disposable vapes should be banned. Or do some tracking and registration when they are purchased. If they are found to be disposed of incorrectly, fines can be issued.

    Maybe a deposit program, then to the recycle bin. Lithium is a huge issue in other batteries as well. I do a lot of work with rechargeable batteries other than vaping. I build small solar systems and power banks for friends and family from time to time. LOL. I will find it if anyone in the family needs a strange battery. I do a lot of business with this company, which has recycling guidelines on its site. Most Home Depot and Lowes have battery recycle bins as well.
     

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    Maybe a deposit program, then to the recycle bin. Lithium is a huge issue in other batteries as well. I do a lot of work with rechargeable batteries other than vaping. I build small solar systems and power banks for friends and family from time to time. LOL. I will find it if anyone in the family needs a strange battery. I do a lot of business with this company, which has recycling guidelines on its site. Most Home Depot and Lowes have battery recycle bins as well.

    That site is a great resource; I've used a similar sort of site for the UK.

    There used to be a lot of local repair shops that would take old laptops and other electronics and recycle them, but there don't seem to be as many now. Maybe it's more larger companies doing it, or it could be because things are made cheaply now and not made to last.
    We really need to recycle more; I think the onus should be on the government to encourage this behavior through legislation. The deposit scheme could be a good solution if priced correctly. And vape companies should also contribute to recycling, one of my big issues with e-vehicles is we don't have the systems in place to recycle all those batteries so we can reuse them rather than wrecking other places mining all the minerals and metals need.

    I always try to find reusable options and give things away to those who can reuse them rather than binning them. I still have and often wear a pair of trousers I purchased second-hand from a shop in NZ when traveling there 16 years ago. They cost me $2 NZ at the time, it is safe to say I'm getting my money's worth from those.
     

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    That site is a great resource; I've used a similar sort of site for the UK.

    There used to be a lot of local repair shops that would take old laptops and other electronics and recycle them, but there don't seem to be as many now. Maybe it's more larger companies doing it, or it could be because things are made cheaply now and not made to last.
    We really need to recycle more; I think the onus should be on the government to encourage this behavior through legislation. The deposit scheme could be a good solution if priced correctly. And vape companies should also contribute to recycling, one of my big issues with e-vehicles is we don't have the systems in place to recycle all those batteries so we can reuse them rather than wrecking other places mining all the minerals and metals need.

    I always try to find reusable options and give things away to those who can reuse them rather than binning them. I still have and often wear a pair of trousers I purchased second-hand from a shop in NZ when traveling there 16 years ago. They cost me $2 NZ at the time, it is safe to say I'm getting my money's worth from those.

    Lithium has a lot of issues on many levels. I think we will move beyond it in the next 5 years or so. There is a lot of money chasing the problem.

    I am a true materialist, which has nothing to do with consumerism. Throw away things are ugly to me. Metal and wood are far more beautiful than cheap disposable plastic. They are also cheaper in the long run. That's just me :greengrin:
     

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    That site is a great resource; I've used a similar sort of site for the UK.

    There used to be a lot of local repair shops that would take old laptops and other electronics and recycle them, but there don't seem to be as many now. Maybe it's more larger companies doing it, or it could be because things are made cheaply now and not made to last.
    We really need to recycle more; I think the onus should be on the government to encourage this behavior through legislation. The deposit scheme could be a good solution if priced correctly. And vape companies should also contribute to recycling, one of my big issues with e-vehicles is we don't have the systems in place to recycle all those batteries so we can reuse them rather than wrecking other places mining all the minerals and metals need.

    I always try to find reusable options and give things away to those who can reuse them rather than binning them. I still have and often wear a pair of trousers I purchased second-hand from a shop in NZ when traveling there 16 years ago. They cost me $2 NZ at the time, it is safe to say I'm getting my money's worth from those.
    I read something a while ago about vape recycling. There's a good system in place for lithium batteries, but not for disposables. Especially with the multiple designs out there the work required to extract the battery costs way more than the value of the lithium.

    Talking of trousers, the last job I did before I retired was maintenance in a hotel. Everyone had uniform codes and maintenance was all black. You had to get your own shoes but trousers and shirts were provided. They came from a supplier which serviced the work market. I left with 4 pairs of trousers. They are 6 to 8 years old now and most of them are still good as new after years of use. I reckon the equivalents you buy at the store are carefully designed to fall apart so you have to buy new ones.
     

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    I read something a while ago about vape recycling. There's a good system in place for lithium batteries, but not for disposables. Especially with the multiple designs out there the work required to extract the battery costs way more than the value of the lithium.

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    That is really the 1,200 pound elephant in the room when it come to Battery Recycling.

    If I give someone a 1,000 18650 Cells to be recycled, it is doable. And a Marginal Profit can be made. But If I give someone 1,000 Disposable e-Cigarettes they look at me like "WTF am I supposed to do with this"?

    In those 1,000 Disposables, you're going to have Dozens of Different Plastics. As well as PBC Boards, all manor of Solders and even some LCD's thrown in for Good Measure. Not to mention a Rainbow of leftover e-Liquids.

    All of this Contaminates the Recycling stream. So you can't just Grind it up and then do Magnetic/Chemical separation. And trying to somehow remove just the Battery is a Lost Cause profit wise.

    So what is Really happening when you "Recycle" things that have batteries in them is they're Not for the most part being "Recycled" for 2nd use. It is Removed from the stream that would end up in a regular Landfill. And then goes to a somewhat More Protected land fill than where Most of everything else goes.
     
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