Most reliable tank long term?

[Completely Average]

Thank you for your reply.
I'm aware of juices having an effect on the tank and tend to usually buy 50/50 juices, if not 60/40 VG/PG, but this is also my issue, I aim to have a tank that can manage a bit more VG, which off puts me from buying a nautilus mini.
I have replaced O-Rings in my coils as well as adding an extra near the other thread, so this is definitely not the issue. I've seen online many people get the same problem with the nautilus and as I said I'm happy to let it go.
As for the dry hits, I replaced my coil about an hour ago and let it soak for about 10 mins before use, for the first time I felt the dry hits for the 30/40 mins I was using it so left it to soak more for another hour, now using it, it feels much better, maybe it just takes a while to soak on these coils?

Are you priming the coils by dripping about 4 drops of juice straight onto the top of the coil, or just putting the coil in dry and letting it soak?

Either way will work given enough time, but priming it first will saturate the wicks a lot faster. It also helps to put a small drop in each of the wicking holes to make sure it doesn't develop an air bubble that prevents juice from getting to the wick.



That said if it doesn't work for you then it just doesn't work for you. Not sure I would recommend a rebuildable though. I know people love them, I have several myself. Before you decide on a rebuildable you might want to ask some of the people recommending them what tools you'll need, how much those will cost, and how often you'll have to take the tank apart to rewick it. Sure, the coils will last a LONG time, but the wicks are an entirely different matter. You'll find that many people are rewicking 2-3 times a week and some are rewicking daily.

 

[Lwscable]

I normally just leave the coil I'm for 10/15 mins to soak, but doesn't seem to work to well with this tank, I'll try priming later and see if that gives different results.

Again though, I'm looking for a new tank, not to fix my nautilus, even if it's a nautilus mini. I want to change it up!

 

[Rwb1500]

I'm tempted to try rebuildables, and buying a new mod maybe but like to keep things budgeted as I prefer to buy premium juices.
Thing is though, I know next to nothing about them, can anyone explain what I need to do to get them up and running or link me to a page?

Quick overview;

You have to wrap your own heating coil. It's not hard, don't let it intimidate you. There are TONS of good tutorials all over Youtube. Don't worry about twisted coils, Clapton coils, double nano Sasquatch coils, or any of that nonsense. All you really need to know is how to wrap a good contact or micro coil. That means all the wraps of the coil are touching each other. The coil is really the easy part. The wicking is where it can get difficult. You install the coil in the device, usually with small screws. Then you use a wicking material, some like cotton, some like rayon, some like organic Japanese cotton. You can't really go wrong. I prefer Rayon because I think it's easier to work with and lasts longer. That's just my personal opinion. With a tank based system like a Kayfun you place the wick through the coil and then place the ends of the wick in a certain place. This is one of those things you'll have to watch to truly understand. It's not easily explained in written word.

When I started vaping I thought I'd use clearomizers forever because it was so easy. Just pop in a new coil. Then I discovered rebuilables and it changed my world. Everyone said it would. They were right.

A rebuildable dripping atomizer is another good way to get into rebuildable because there isn't any complicated wicking, you simply put your wick in the coil and let it touch the deck of the atomizer and juice it up. They are also typically easier to build than tank style systems.


I'll try to find you some good video links so you know what you're looking at.


Here's a good simple Kayfun tutorial;
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tutorials/503153-kayfun-3-1-microcoil-cotton-guide.html

And here's a micro coil tutorial.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/413000-rm2-rba-2-0-reomizer-2-rebuild-tutorial.html

 

[Completely Average]

Everyone tastes everything different.

For me my Nautilus hates being hit harder then about 12W. Anything over tastes gross to me. Burnt.

Over 20w is just disgusting. To me.

Mini likes about 8-9 w.

What PG/VG mix are you using?

If it tastes burn at higher wattages then it's just not wicking well. I'm very sensitive to burnt taste, and I have never had a problem running higher wattages, but I also never use more than 50% VG in my juices for it.

If you're running an 80% VG juice then yes, it's going to taste burnt. The wicks aren't made for that.

 

[Lwscable]

Thanks for all the replies!

As for rebuildables, I'm considering the idea but don't like all the hassle, I just want a decent tank(s) that I can use every day and occationally change coils. Just wanted to know the best on the market for durability/ durability of coils.

 

[Lwscable]

What PG/VG mix are you using?

If it tastes burn at higher wattages then it's just not wicking well. I'm very sensitive to burnt taste, and I have never had a problem running higher wattages, but I also never use more than 50% VG in my juices for it.

If you're running an 80% VG juice then yes, it's going to taste burnt. The wicks aren't made for that.

The juice I'm currently doesn't show the PG/VG %, but based on the consistency it doesn't look higher VG than PG, it's fairly runny.

 

[Completely Average]

I normally just leave the coil I'm for 10/15 mins to soak, but doesn't seem to work to well with this tank, I'll try priming later and see if that gives different results.

Again though, I'm looking for a new tank, not to fix my nautilus, even if it's a nautilus mini. I want to change it up!

IF you're interested in rebuildables then the Kayfun/Russian 99% is good if you're more interested in flavor than vapor production. They give really good flavor, but don't produce a lot of vapor.

If you're wanting something that kicks out good clouds of vapor as well as having good flavor then you should consider the Lemo rebuildable, It's a bit more picky on the wicking, but when you get it right it works great.


For retail tanks and coils if you're having a lot of problems with the Nautilus you may want to look at something like the Kanger Aerotank or Giant. They have a different coil system. I've got one of those and have never had a problem with it leaking and the coils last a really long time.

 

[Montecarlols]

I've been using nautilus tanks, mini and full size for a few months. Haven't had an issue that wasn't user error. Prime the new coil with 3 drops of e juice, fill it and set it to the smallest air hole. take some primer hits (5-10) without power. Let it sit a few minutes and increase the voltage in small increments, starting at 7 watts till your around 15-17 watts, taking a few hits every time you up the wattage. Good to go from there. Depending on your pg/vg will determine your watts. (As higher vg will have a harder time wicking) btw I vape mostly 30/70 pg/vg juices with no problem. When you put your setup down for the night, store your tank upside down ( with drop top removed) to avoid the am floodings. They take some getting used to but in the end they are good. Also, pick up a tobecco kayfun v4 clone. I'm really thinking of using them instead of the nautilus tanks due to the fact they are rebuildable and taste just as good when built right. Vaping is definitely a learning experience as far as finding what works for you, but when you get the hang of it, it's GREAT!!

 

[Lwscable]

Thank you for your help.

Something that I didn't mention in my post is that I like to keep the cost of my vaping down, I understand that buying a kayfun etc will be much better and no much difference in price in the long run, but I still want to buy an affordable tank that I can just regularly buy coils for, maybe replace coils every 2-3 weeks. I'm not really up for a rebuildable and would rather buy a long lasting tank under £50.

 

[DingerCPA]

I recently revived my Nauti and Nauti mini. I still have a couple of the "original" BVCs (ceramic wick, I believe) and dropping juice onto the top of the coil before installing and filling the tank, as well as letting the tank sit for a bit - just to be sure - I don't have any more burning issues. My juices are VG-heavy (upwards of 70-75%) and I don't have wicking issues. I run around 12W - much more than that, I will start to burn.

I did order some of the "newer" cotton-wicked BVCs. Haven't tried them yet, but will probably get there in a week or so when my other coils are finally done.

I just make sure that the tanks are "snug", but not over-tight.

HTH

 

[Lwscable]

IF you're interested in rebuildables then the Kayfun/Russian 99% is good if you're more interested in flavor than vapor production. They give really good flavor, but don't produce a lot of vapor.

If you're wanting something that kicks out good clouds of vapor as well as having good flavor then you should consider the Lemo rebuildable, It's a bit more picky on the wicking, but when you get it right it works great.


For retail tanks and coils if you're having a lot of problems with the Nautilus you may want to look at something like the Kanger Aerotank or Giant. They have a different coil system. I've got one of those and have never had a problem with it leaking and the coils last a really long time.

I ordered an aerotank v2 a while ago, but never used it and gave it to a friend who said it was good, so I was thinking about buying one now, but would it be better than a nautilus mini? I'm also interested in an aero giant as my friend bought one recently, although I haven't spoken to him about how well it vapes yet. Out of the 3, nautilus mini, aerotank v2 or aerotank giant? Which one would be the best purely based on reliability?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

IMO, the most consistant & reliable clearo's are the nautilus & Atlantis.
As far as a tank goes, IMO - Phiniac with boge or ikenvape carto's.

RTA - the Erlkönigin ( authentic ).

 

[Lwscable]

I've been using nautilus tanks, mini and full size for a few months. Haven't had an issue that wasn't user error. Prime the new coil with 3 drops of e juice, fill it and set it to the smallest air hole. take some primer hits (5-10) without power. Let it sit a few minutes and increase the voltage in small increments, starting at 7 watts till your around 15-17 watts, taking a few hits every time you up the wattage. Good to go from there. Depending on your pg/vg will determine your watts. (As higher vg will have a harder time wicking) btw I vape mostly 30/70 pg/vg juices with no problem. When you put your setup down for the night, store your tank upside down ( with drop top removed) to avoid the am floodings. They take some getting used to but in the end they are good. Also, pick up a tobecco kayfun v4 clone. I'm really thinking of using them instead of the nautilus tanks due to the fact they are rebuildable and taste just as good when built right. Vaping is definitely a learning experience as far as finding what works for you, but when you get the hang of it, it's GREAT!!

I've tried different ways of storing my tank over night, including on it's head but the only way that not ended up with a flooded chimney was taking out the coil and leaving the base, tank and coil separate. Thank you anyway!

 

[Montecarlols]

The tobecco kayfun clone is around $26, the quality of mine is fantastic. As far as building the deck it's easier than you think. YouTube kayfun 4 builds, or watch pbusardos kayfun 4 YouTube video he shows how easily it's built. For 100' of 28g kanthal it's around 8 dollars and you can pick up koh gen doh cotton at the jcpennys makeup section for $10 dollars for over 100 sheets. That and the coil you make will last for a month at least. Just dry burn the coil every few days and replace the cotton. The setup will last you for years.

 

[3mhmama]

I like the nautilus and nautilus mini. Great flavor but coils do wear quickly.

 

[zerosm0ke]

I'm sorry, but if you are talking long term, IMHO, you are talking rta. There is no guarantee of when a manufacturer is going to decide they're done with a device and move on to the next best thing, leaving you with a device and no coils. RTAs can be rebuilt almost forever. If you want longevity, it is the way to go. Grab a new Lemo 2 and you can run it for years. If you really like coils, grab a Subtank Mini. Even if they move on, the coils themselves are easy to rebuild and you get the RBA deck to boot.

 

[kartoffelfaust]

What I find interesting is I had the same question when I started vaping - what clearo sucks the least? I tried the protanks, where I thought were terrible, and the Mustank, which was OK, probably akin to (or possibly just beneath) the nautilus.

There isn't much improvement in this arena, the answers are about the same as they were last summer.

Most of the focus these days has been on rebuildables (+1 for Lemo), or the higher power tanks like the atlantis and the subtank. Note the key to these tanks is you don't have to run them at super high power. I've had builds in my lemo that I run between 10-13 watts, and others that I run at 25-30 watts.

 

[khalidmna]

I've never had any leaking problems with my aspire nautius. As suggested above, purchase another nautilus tank and see how it goes. I have the kangertech subtank and aerotank and lots of clearomisers but the nautilus is my main go to tank. I haven't found another yet that produced as much flavour as the nautilus.

 

[deygun]

I've owned kayfun lite plus for several months. No big problem actually. The flavour is good. The only cons i can think with this tank is it has tight draw. You cant do lung draw only mouth to lung.

 

[Dom NY]

Thanks for all the replies!

As for rebuildables, I'm considering the idea but don't like all the hassle, I just want a decent tank(s) that I can use every day and occationally change coils. Just wanted to know the best on the market for durability/ durability of coils.

I recommend you get the Freemax Starre tank. The coils last a long time.