Move aside, 260w... here's the 400w mod, lol

[tFOrRESTee]

Vaperz Cloud Monster Box

And here's another one, Hammer of God Box, quad parallel mech mod. Hammer of God Box – Vaperz Cloud

Here's the video of Hammer of God Box vs 10 (yes, ten batteries!) 18650 parallel box mod , and watch it catching fire (at 1:27), just like the other guy who was doing the smy mod video

 

[chia]

I dun like where all these power chase is going.. One needs serious knowledge and experience to operate these devices, and some noob dude is bound to get hurt.
It will only provide more ammo for governments around to add to the 'unsafe' aspect for vaping to clamp down on us..

 

[Cotay]

I hope that hodgepodge of unmatched batteries he threw in that thing are all the same chemistry and voltage. In parallel, the newer higher voltage batteries will drain into the lower voltage batteries...overheating and danger could ensue. I just don't see the point...but that's just me.

 

[jonny45378]

That is horribly stupid, and to be doing it at a b&m is a bad idea and setting a bad example for most vapers imo. Another stupid thing that I noticed that they did was mix match batteries in the 10 batt box. Not safe at all especially if it was indeed a 0.04-0.05 build.

 

[catalinaflyer]

That 400W chip has been around for a while, in all honesty those are one off boxes aimed at a very limited segment of the industry.

That 10 battery box will blow itself up if they try anything more than a micro-second fire, look at the size of the wire going to the 510 positive post. Then firing full power through the switch without mosfet's so basically the switch is going to weld itself in the on position due to the heat being generated trying to pull any kind of power through that lead.

As for the atomizer catching fire, I've managed to start fire on a genesis style with ss screen but that was my intention in order to oxidize it. PG/VG will catch fire if heated enough without airflow to carry it away.

I have a 260 watt mod and love it firing at 20 to 30 watts and when I'm feeling particularly froggy I push it all the way up to a mind blowing 60 watts.

That is horribly stupid, and to be doing it at a b&m is a bad idea and setting a bad example for most vapers imo. Another stupid thing that I noticed that they did was mix match batteries in the 10 batt box. Not safe at all especially if it was indeed a 0.04-0.05 build.

I think he said it was a .045 ohm which at nominal voltage (3.7) would be drawing 82 amps and producing 304 watts. Fully charged (4.2) would be 93 amps and 392 watts. Not safe on ANY box let alone that POS with the miss-matched batteries.

 

[IanDVaypes]

I'm surprised he didn't blow up the dmm.

 

[Garemlin]

I just don't understand the need for such high power. No way I would ever fire something like that. Let alone put it up to my face. Of course I personally don't see the need for anything over 100w. But that is just me. I rarely vape over 22w.

The higher the power goes and the more dangerous these devices get the more we are gonna see this.

 

[johnnyboro]

Even if completely safe, that still looks stupid and lame to me.

 

[snow blind]

This .... needs to stop! People need to grow up... we're bound to see some 18 year blow his face off this year with these new 100+ watt boxes. Vaping isn't a sport people, christ!

 

[tFOrRESTee]

In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides. Fire arms need to be banned.

88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years for alcohol consumption. Alcohol needs to be banned.

In 2011, 32,479 were killed in car accident. Driving needs to be stopped.

In 2012, 33,561 were killed in car accident. Again, driving needs to be banned.

Last year, with so many airline accidents, flying should be illegalized.

How many people got killed last year using vaping equipment?

 

[Cotay]

In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides. Fire arms need to be banned.

88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years for alcohol consumption. Alcohol needs to be banned.

In 2011, 32,479 were killed in car accident. Driving needs to be stopped.

In 2012, 33,561 were killed in car accident. Again, driving needs to be banned.

Last year, with so many airline accidents, flying should be illegalized.

How many people got killed last year using vaping equipment?

No offense, but nobody but you mentioned the word "banned". I'm not for banning people's right to be stupid, but the reality is that this sort of thing is going to be used to justify draconian regulations. If people are going to do this, as a community we need to police ourselves and make sure others are building these mods responsibly and safely. As a gun owner and frequent trap/skeet shooter, if I see someone acting irresponsibly at the range I tell them to stop and I get the heck out of there if they refuse (after reporting them to the range master). Responsible gun owners police themselves all of the time. We need to take a similar position on irresponsible and dangerous vape gear.

 

[BlkWolfMidnight]

In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides. Fire arms need to be banned.

88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years for alcohol consumption. Alcohol needs to be banned.

In 2011, 32,479 were killed in car accident. Driving needs to be stopped.

In 2012, 33,561 were killed in car accident. Again, driving needs to be banned.

Last year, with so many airline accidents, flying should be illegalized.

How many people got killed last year using vaping equipment?

Oye, its not about that...the idea of "Its the principal of the thing" seriously gets lost with folks that vape a lot I see.

Ok, all the things listed don't have 2 federal agencies putting them under the microscope, yes the fact that we who vape are in a metaphorical hamster cage is the truth. Again to encourage unsafe vaping will lead to issues, as soon as that happens it will get written in the FDA's "Vaping is bad because" book. We have given them enough reasons already to drop the hammer pretty hard on us and additional things will only add to the nails they have to seal the deal with.

I've seen enough in the past 5 years now to make anyone's skin crawl with the unsafe practices and insane builds coming out. Does a 400w mod have its place in the market, maybe a long ways down the road when we start experimenting in ceramic disk atomization but for now, no it does not. I'd like to see more batteries in a mod, that would be nice to increase device run time, but that's about it really in advancements for now.

 

[snow blind]

In 2010, guns took the lives of 31,076 Americans in homicides. Fire arms need to be banned.

88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years for alcohol consumption. Alcohol needs to be banned.

In 2011, 32,479 were killed in car accident. Driving needs to be stopped.

In 2012, 33,561 were killed in car accident. Again, driving needs to be banned.

Last year, with so many airline accidents, flying should be illegalized.

How many people got killed last year using vaping equipment?

I think you're missing the point. The asinine wattage war is leading to extremely dangerous (and pointless) vaping hardware which cannot be compared as you tried to do.

A 400 watt box mod is more the equivalent of...

A firearm that holds 500 rounds in a 24" wide magazine, fires at 1200 rpm and has the possibility of catastrophic detonation if the fire is sustained for more than one second at a time. It's more than excessive and risks the operator's safety for no real reason... pointless and dangerous.

A 50 watt box mod is like a 9mm Beretta. "Safe" (we an argue this in another forum lol), practical, non excessive and does a specific job it was designed to do... very well.

That said, everyone is free to make their own decisions. I'd be willing to bet, if polled, we'd find out that the VAST majority of 100+ wattage mod owners are ages 18-25 (or some other 18+ low age range).

 

[snow blind]

100% on the money... well said!

 

[zoiDman]

Finally someone has come out with a 400W Mod.

Now I don't need to "Chase the Dragon" anymore using a 110v Light Bulb with the Bulb Removed.

Which wasn't very Portable.

 

[tFOrRESTee]

I own 100+ watt vaping equipment but the highest I have ever vaped was 75w. Owning 100+ vaping devices doesn't mean you have to utilize its maximum potential. I like to collect them, just like I like to collect weapons. I only shoot 9mm and .357 magnum in the gun ranges, but that doesn't stop me from collecting high power rifles. So instead of saying high wattage mods are unsafe and stupid, use them with responsibility and with knowledge armed.

Lets say someone make a compound bow that shoots 1000 fps, can we say that is unsafe and stupid?

How about someone dry fires his compound bow with 70 pounds of draw weight, he could hurt himself because of the kinetic energy being transferred back to the bow itself and potentially hurt the shooter, can we say that archery is unsafe and stupid? Should we regulate the maximum draw weight to 30 pounds?

We have enough nukes to destroy the earth several times, yet we will never ever stop making faster, more accurate, and more importantly, more powerful weapons. What's up with that?

Yes I agree to use any high powered devices, no just vaping devices, with caution. But that doesn't mean that they are "stupid", as mentioned by many posters. Hell, people think smokers are stupid, smokers think ecig users are stupid, and now vapers think high wattage gears are stupid, lol.

 

[snow blind]

I hear ya man... and i agree with some of what you're saying... we all do have a right to be idiots or smart users or whatever... But 400+ watts is beyond the realm of logical. Put that into Ohm's law and take a look at the figures! Mind=blown It's like the guys who buy the $65,000 diesel pickups and throw a 2ft lift kit on them with 40" tires, drop a gintaic turbo kit in them, run stacks out the back and then never tow a damn thing or come close to taking it offroad.

I... I... just don't get it!? Human nature though or a .... measuring contest most likely for some (not saying YOU at all! lol).

 

[ZeroOhm]

Must be some nice gauge of wiring in there!? knowing what I know probably not sounds like a fire starter.

 

[roxynoodle]

I'm a 46 year old woman with a 100W mod. I've never had it over 50W though . I bought it for the battery life, accuracy and price.

 

[catalinaflyer]

I'm somewhere near 50 and between my wife and I we own 5 mods of 100W capacity or more. My best friend in his mid 40's has two, I have 3 co-workers and between the 3 of them there's at least 5 over 100W and they're in their 40' and 50's.

Come to think of it even including the employees at the vape shop I know not one single person under 30 with a 100W + mod.

However I see young kids on sport bikes over 1 liter every day and I may be wrong but I think those are far more dangerous than a Sigelei 150. Maybe the madness needs to stop with bike manufactures who build bikes over 249cc and auto manufacturers who build vehicles capable of more than 75 mph. My wife I'm sure will tell you that you can take her 190mph car when you pry her cold dead hands from the steering wheel. I feel the same about my toys as well, not a single one makes sense, all are capable of way more than necessary but their mine.

Maybe your efforts to limit wattage output should be redirected towards educating yourself about the capability of said mod and passing that education on to others.

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