Ms T's Bakery

[Fitdiculous]

48 mg can generally be mixed with man 10% VG. It all depends on what strength you are going to vape at when all is said and done.

I vape 24 mg usually, so this is what I do:

When I order my doublers, I order them with 50% VG and hope for the best. Geoff will just add as much VG as possible to the doubler without sacrificing the intended flavor. In the case of Almond Horn, it has worked out well. The key lime pie also turned out really well, in my honest opinion.

is there a specific reason why higher nic levels can only have so much VG added?

I want to get the 48mg juice down to 24mg or 16mg, it really will depend on the taste and TH I get.

I didn't know more VG will will sacrifice the flavour? I guess my logic in my last post doesn't really apply then? I tried your Almond Horn and that was probably my favourite out of all of them that night, but I saw a lot of your bottles marked at 24mg 35% VG. Was that after you mixed in the doubler? if so how did you know it was 35% VG Total?

 

[FreeFlow]

Make smaller orders at TV whenever possible. If you notice, anything over 90 dollars (i believe...right around there) and you get hit with over double the shipping cost. Geoff throws in a discount over 100 dollars, so just do the math carefully so you don't end up overpaying.

yea i noticed that the first time i ordered, i was just able to order 8oz and kept it at 11.45 shipping.. one more bottle and the price goes to 26.. I even tried adding 8 6ml mixing bottles and that also brings the price over..

7oz's of waffle OTW, lol bit of a gamble considering I haven't tried it yet..

And as far as VG and doublers, I just ordered 48mg at 10% VG and made my 4oz doubler 30% VG and I'm just hoping it works out.. Think I maybe shoulda gone 40% on the doubler but we shall see..

 

[Switched]

*SNIP
How would I get a desired VG% of say 35% in my FINAL mixture? what would I have to order to get that? The way I read that statement is if I got 48mg juice it can only be mixed with 10% VG. If I bought a doubler that was 20% and I mixed the two to get a desired 24mg nic level would I have juice that is effectively 30% VG?

He is probably using a lower concentration of nic liquid to mix his juices. What is saying is that for 48mg you can hyave a maximum mix of 10% VG, and so on so forth.

If ya want 35% 24mg will get you there. The lower in nic you go, the more he can cut.

Example: I use 50mg nic for my mixes:

• 24mg = 48% nic liquid
• 20% VG = a total of 68%
• 4% distilled water = a total of 72%
• 20% flavour = a total of 92%
• 8% or the remainder = PG

In this example I could go as high as 35% VG (approx I don't have my liquid calc with me)

 

[Switched]

is there a specific reason why higher nic levels can only have so much VG added?

I want to get the 48mg juice down to 24mg or 16mg, it really will depend on the taste and TH I get.

I didn't know more VG will will sacrifice the flavour? I guess my logic in my last post doesn't really apply then? I tried your Almond Horn and that was probably my favourite out of all of them that night, but I saw a lot of your bottles marked at 24mg 35% VG. Was that after you mixed in the doubler? if so how did you know it was 35% VG Total?

To get 48mg ----> 24mg

• 50% 48mg PG X flavour
• 50% VG X flavour dbler = PG/VG 50/50 at 24mg; or
  • 50% 48mg PG X flavour; and
  • 35% VG X flavour dblr + 15% PG X flavour dblr = 65/35 PG/VG mix at 24mg

You really need a recipe calculator to start messing with this stuff. Start soaking up the DIY sub-forum. Mixing is basic algebra. I hope you enjoyed the subject in the past

 

[FreeFlow]

Mixing is basic algebra. I hope you enjoyed the subject in the past

yup not very complicated at all, sorry this doesn't help with your VG question, best I could find quickly..

If you start with 48 MG E-liquid
36 MG = 3 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
32 MG = 2 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
24 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
16 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 2 parts Doubler
12 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 3 parts Doubler
9.6 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 4 parts Doubler (mixing the whole bottles of each together)

If you start with 36 MG E-liquid
27 MG = 3 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
24 MG = 2 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
18 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
12 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 2 parts Doubler
9 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 3 parts Doubler
7.2 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 4 parts Doubler (mixing the whole bottles of each together)

If you start with 24 MG E-liquid
18 MG = 3 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
16 MG = 2 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
12 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
8 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 2 parts Doubler
6 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 3 parts Doubler
4.8 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 4 parts Doubler (mixing the whole bottles of each together)

If you start with 12 MG E-liquid
9 MG = 3 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
8 MG = 2 parts e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
6 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 1 part Doubler
4 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 2 parts Doubler
3 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 3 parts Doubler
2.4 MG = 1 part e-liquid + 4 parts Doubler (aka mix the whole bottles of each together)

 

[FreeFlow]

And Switched did you get my pm? I was hoping you could answer that question for me..

 

[Switched]

What PM? no outstanding PMs in my mail box.

 

[FreeFlow]

I shall re-send

 

[Fitdiculous]

To get 48mg ----> 24mg

• 50% 48mg PG X flavour
• 50% VG X flavour dbler = PG/VG 50/50 at 24mg; or
  • 50% 48mg PG X flavour; and
  • 35% VG X flavour dblr + 15% PG X flavour dblr = 65/35 PG/VG mix at 24mg

You really need a recipe calculator to start messing with this stuff. Start soaking up the DIY sub-forum. Mixing is basic algebra. I hope you enjoyed the subject in the past

ok, so I'd have to 2 different blends of PG/VG doubler than to achieve 35% total VG at 24mg then eh?

so wait, based on your "formula" then my initial thought was correct? so if I wanted to get 30% total VG and 24mg FINAL mix (if I bought 48mg to start) I could either get 100% PG nic juice with 30% doubler, or 90% PG nicjuice and 20% doubler and just do the 1:1 ratio?

I'm either complicating this too much or I can't do basic math

 

[Fitdiculous]

FF, I saw that in TV's FAQ and that's simple enough, but it's certainly the VG% and mixing that to my desired amount that I'm having a bit of a hard time grasping.

It's throwing me off because logically, why wouldn't everyone order 48mg and just cut it to their desired mg level with the doubler? that's the best "value". The only thing I can think of is they because they wouldn't want a big batch of juice and only really want to sample something... their smallest bottles are 1oz, so it's still a pretty big sample I guess

 

[Fitdiculous]

ok I found my answer in a nice simple excel sheet provided by chainvapor... the thread was buried and it didn't come up when I did a search for some reason... anyways check it out:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tasty-vapor/105274-tv-calculator-nic-content-vg-pg.html

so now we can stop crapping on my on Ms. T's Bakery thread with TV stuff

Have my order with Ms. T's on the way, will do review soon!

 

[Switched]

ok, so I'd have to 2 different blends of PG/VG doubler than to achieve 35% total VG at 24mg then eh?

so wait, based on your "formula" then my initial thought was correct? so if I wanted to get 30% total VG and 24mg FINAL mix (if I bought 48mg to start) I could either get 100% PG nic juice with 30% doubler, or 90% PG nicjuice and 20% doubler and just do the 1:1 ratio?

I'm either complicating this too much or I can't do basic math

I am not following your train of thought here, but do believe your numbers are wrong.

If you took 100% almond horn at 48mg and mixed in 30% almond horn 100% VG, you would get:

48mg x 70% = 33.6mg almond horn at 70/30 PG/VG

The doublers were designed to cut lets say 48mg to 24 mg (keeping math simple) so:

• 10ml of 48mg mixed with 10ml of doubler = 20ml of 24mg final liquid without any loss in flavour.

Now folks have used these dblrs to do many things, including but not limited to increasing vapour production. If you want a liquid with a ratio of 65/35 at 24mg starting from 48mg, the recipe would look like this:

• 5ml of 48mg PG almond horn
• 3.5ml VG almond horn
• 1.5ml PG almond horn

The recipe will render 10ml of 24mg Almond Horn at a PG/VG ratio of 65/35

 

[FreeFlow]

so now we can stop crapping on my on Ms. T's Bakery thread with TV stuff

LOL Hijacking FTL

 

[Fitdiculous]

Ok, I think I get your math now... I'll leave it up to the spread sheet to calculate my TV juice mixes... FF if you haven't already downloaded it check it out... according to their calculator all I would need to do is get 100% PG 48mg, 70% VG doubler and mix 1:1 ratio to get whatever amount I want at 24mg 35% VG ... simple enough I will be placing my order for waffles today

 

[Lambontae]

Got an order in from Mrs T, 9 business days - no customs issues or duties.


Some candy thrown in w/ the order, and instead of packing peanuts - actual popcorn. Needless to say - my order smelt freaking great.

 

[bornagainst]

haha, what a great touch!

Bless Mrs T!

 

[Fitdiculous]

ya, that was a nice surprise for sure! I gave all the candy to the wife and she thinks that's a cool idea...

at first I thought her juice was too sweet... but I found I love them now and can use almost any of the ones I ordered from her as an all day vape