MVS Giveaway thread !!!
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Thanks all. She is a "party dog", super well behaved, loves everyone (and loves the 3 big parties every year) so we're throwing her a wake to let everyone come say goodbye. And she is even allowed to beg for people food. She'll be ecstatic. We might even listen this time when it gets to 1am and she starts trying to lead people to the guest room so she can go to bed 
Thanks all. She is a "party dog", super well behaved, loves everyone (and loves the 3 big parties every year) so we're throwing her a wake to let everyone come say goodbye. And she is even allowed to beg for people food. She'll be ecstatic. We might even listen this time when it gets to 1am and she starts trying to lead people to the guest room so she can go to bed
Aw that sounds like fun for her and, even under the circumstances, good for everyone.
I pray she stays comfortable for a very long time Disconnect.
And you MF DOOM hit the nail right on the head. Vaccines (thanks to big pharma and our lovely FDA) are killing our animals. Flea collars are killing our animals. Lawn treatments are killing our animals. Their food is killing them.
I haven't had a dog in years but for a cat do not get them vaccinated unless they are high risk. And frankly, they shouldn't be if they are a pet. Google animal vaccines and cancer if you want. They are finding more cases where dogs are also being affected.
Animals need animal protein. Period. There are differences in proteins and they don't get much if any animal protein in most of the food we have to offer them. That is changing a bit but not enough. The more expensive foods have more but I know that does get costly. Or you can go the route of MF with a raw diet which they say is the best. That new commercial with the cat who says "I am not a vegetarian!" is soooooooo true. We have made animals vegetarians although most owners don't realize that. The manufacturers knew but hey, they don't mind poisoning us so why would they mind killing our animals so they can make a few more dollars.
If you have a cat, feed as little dry as you possibly can. As low of a phosphorous number as you can get. Get a Drinkwell pet/water fountain. They make a huge difference in the amount of water they drink. The same applies to a dog. It is so very important to have a cat drink because they just don't drink enough on there own when in a bowl and then spend most of their lives in a state of dehydration. Which is why so many die of kidney failure.
What really sucks is if you get a rescue, they have already been vaccinated. Don't panic if you have a vaccinated pet. More and more vets are becoming aware of the dangers and hopefully used a non-adjuvented vaccine and or vaccinated in an area that can be...removed... if a tumor were to grow.
But if you have the choice, there is no need to vaccinate if you take care of your pet as they should be. If there is a true need for certain protections, ask first if there is a pill or liquid form.
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I prefer to get my science info from peer-reviewed papers over tv commercials. I'd also really appreciate if you'd stop implying (directly or otherwise) that our dog is dying thanks to her diet, her vaccinations, her flea treatments or any other psuedo-scientific holistic mess. Most animals in our house are rescues and live well beyond the "standard" species mortality age. (Including our eldest cat, who is almost 19 and showed no signs at all of his age until last fall. Even that is mild, just the slight loss in skin elasticity that is the earliest sign of aging in most cats.)
If you want to start showing actual studies (they are out there) instead of the current fad of "omg my neighbor sally said.." then great.. (Although I suspect it is off topic for a vendor thread on a vaping forum.)
If you want to start showing actual studies (they are out there) instead of the current fad of "omg my neighbor sally said.." then great.. (Although I suspect it is off topic for a vendor thread on a vaping forum.)
I'm not saying you had anything to do with it Disconnect. Please don't take it like that. I have no doubt your animals are well taken care of and well loved.
But, everything I said is true (per scientific studies) and just some info to pass on to hopefully prevent the possibility of some future heartache. It isn't us Disconnect who are causing so many of the problems that are now being seen in animals. Most do the best we can for them. We just don't/didn't know the changes that have been made from vaccines to food and yes, to flea collars.
Nothing was directed at you Disconnect but maybe it should not have been brought up at this time. I guess it just kind of segued into that. For making a difficult time more so for you, I do apologize.
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I appreciate your concern, and the support I have gotten in PMs and elsewhere.
(For the record, there is only one vaccine that has ever been dangerous for cats - the older high dose/long term FLV with aluminum, which most vets do not use anymore. It showed a reaction ranging from mild to acute - ie catastrophic - up to 10 years after vaccination program was started. OTOH you can easily lose an entire litter of kittens to distemper literally overnight simply by wearing shoes into their nesting area if the mother was not vaccinated pre-pregnancy. I'm currently being slept on by a monster orange and white guy that came from a 7-kitten litter born to an unvaccinated mom we rescued. We didn't lose a single one, including the runt, because we kept them semi-sterile until they were old enough to vaccinate and made sure they had excellent care both pre and post natal.)
(Subtext, you cannot vaccinate a pregnant female without a high risk of losing the kittens. That has less to do with the vaccine itself and more to do with the mother's immune system reaction - they self-terminate in hostile environments and "I might have just caught FLV/distemper/rabies/whatever" is considered a hostile environment..)
Now back to your regularly scheduled vaping .. please? (Actually I'm about to head out anyway. Gonna take the dog to Annapolis to wander around for lunch, she likes going places and since we both took off work today it seemed like a fun thing to do.) If you want to continue this, feel free to PM me with peer-reviewed article citations. (If you can only get to summaries, that is fine. I may be able to supply the full article depending on which journal it was published in.)
(For the record, there is only one vaccine that has ever been dangerous for cats - the older high dose/long term FLV with aluminum, which most vets do not use anymore. It showed a reaction ranging from mild to acute - ie catastrophic - up to 10 years after vaccination program was started. OTOH you can easily lose an entire litter of kittens to distemper literally overnight simply by wearing shoes into their nesting area if the mother was not vaccinated pre-pregnancy. I'm currently being slept on by a monster orange and white guy that came from a 7-kitten litter born to an unvaccinated mom we rescued. We didn't lose a single one, including the runt, because we kept them semi-sterile until they were old enough to vaccinate and made sure they had excellent care both pre and post natal.)
(Subtext, you cannot vaccinate a pregnant female without a high risk of losing the kittens. That has less to do with the vaccine itself and more to do with the mother's immune system reaction - they self-terminate in hostile environments and "I might have just caught FLV/distemper/rabies/whatever" is considered a hostile environment..)
Now back to your regularly scheduled vaping .. please?
(Actually I'm about to head out anyway. Gonna take the dog to Annapolis to wander around for lunch, she likes going places and since we both took off work today it seemed like a fun thing to do.) If you want to continue this, feel free to PM me with peer-reviewed article citations. (If you can only get to summaries, that is fine. I may be able to supply the full article depending on which journal it was published in.)
Vaping a new DIY on my new iTaste (Facebook contest win)
I call the juice Marsoopalopa!
It's a smooth and creamy, semi-sweet, vanilla clove 8mg 50/50 juice that hits on all 8 cylinders!!!
I see homemade gift giving in my future!!
I call the juice Marsoopalopa!
It's a smooth and creamy, semi-sweet, vanilla clove 8mg 50/50 juice that hits on all 8 cylinders!!!
I see homemade gift giving in my future!!
Who's "you'd"...and I do apologize sincerely if you derived implication from a post I may or may not have omitted, I just hear "mass" and revert back to the chem. loading we do of our animals.
I spare NO expense with mine, and it shows. Only ULTRA 94 with additive goes in the Ferrari, get it?
Although the reason for my visit to this thread IS different, MVS, you have outdone yourself AGAIN! This was shipped Monday...
The switch on my current unit broke, so no nic for 3 days (Le Beast)...
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You like clove that much?
I kinda feel lightheaded just thinking about the clove cigs we'd smoke behind the papa ginos after school.
That's just it, the clove juice I got was way too strong for my tastes...made my mouth numb, just like the ol ciggys, but I thinned it down with my DIY creamy base, then added some vanilla to round it out...just right!
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