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Maybe if I saw more positive things being done then I would be more optimistic, who knows? I'm not on a soapbox by any means. I'm free to express myself just like you or anyone else. Look at the good in my posts and ignore what you feel is negative. I've reread some of my posts and there is plenty of good to be found in them. It all depends on one's perception of the world. I'm not going to pretend that things are going great to suit or make others feel comfortable. There's a big difference between being considerate towards other people's feelings and trying to please people because they disagree with me or are opposed to facing reality. I'm definitely not going to change who I am and how I feel because the vast majority wish to keep their heads buried in the sand.
Regardless though, I get where you're coming from even though you seem to be jumping the gun as to who or what I stand for. Sometimes "negative" is perceived by those who feel challenged about their current world view. Truth is, the world isn't improving and things aren't getting better. Don't get angry at me, get angry at all the apathy and pleasure-seeking that has been shoved down our collective throats by the mass media.
Hmmm, I wasn't aware that you were part of the V4L team? I'm not afraid, just awake and cognizant of the fact that we've had some serious problems with the Chinese as it concerns their exports to the U.S.A. and other countries. I'm willing to take the risk, if I wasn't I wouldn't be vaping. I think the benefits outweigh the dangers at this point. There's a big difference between being afraid and being legitimately concerned. I'm sorry you see so much negativity in my posts. One may see negativity while another may see truth. Being positive without being aware of what we really face is not positive at all, it's naive...in my opinion.
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Please don't take anything I've written in the wrong way, I'm actually very friendly. I'll check out the video you mentioned and I'll also take a look at the political sub-forum. I'll do my best to positive while remaining honest about our current state of being.
Regardless though, I get where you're coming from even though you seem to be jumping the gun as to who or what I stand for. Sometimes "negative" is perceived by those who feel challenged about their current world view. Truth is, the world isn't improving and things aren't getting better. Don't get angry at me, get angry at all the apathy and pleasure-seeking that has been shoved down our collective throats by the mass media.
Hmmm, I wasn't aware that you were part of the V4L team? I'm not afraid, just awake and cognizant of the fact that we've had some serious problems with the Chinese as it concerns their exports to the U.S.A. and other countries. I'm willing to take the risk, if I wasn't I wouldn't be vaping. I think the benefits outweigh the dangers at this point. There's a big difference between being afraid and being legitimately concerned. I'm sorry you see so much negativity in my posts. One may see negativity while another may see truth. Being positive without being aware of what we really face is not positive at all, it's naive...in my opinion.
P.S.,
Please don't take anything I've written in the wrong way, I'm actually very friendly. I'll check out the video you mentioned and I'll also take a look at the political sub-forum. I'll do my best to positive while remaining honest about our current state of being.
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I meant "our" products, because we (you, me, and most everybody posting on this sub forum) use them...we buy them, hense they are ours....I watched the video and felt it was a safe environment, no contaminants and such...I continue to buy...simple as that.
laz777, I fully think your post is erroneous. There is no such limiting factor that you mentioned, and indeed the U.S. does make some juice. I don't remember who, though. If you're looking for non V4L juice, this is the worng place and I can't help you on your quest either. Imo V4L is a major world standard.
And you stated:
"we should all be more than a little bit concerned"
And I disagree. We should be more concerned and knowledgeable about what our U.S. companies put in their products.
And you stated:
"we should all be more than a little bit concerned"
And I disagree. We should be more concerned and knowledgeable about what our U.S. companies put in their products.
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It's not erroneous because I wasn't presenting anything as fact concerning the juice, just trying to learn more about how it's made and the dangers, if any. And we should be concerned, if you disagree, no problem. The fact is there are some unknowns when it comes to vaporizing and anyone who thinks differently is fooling themselves. I think you're taking what I said out of context. I'm not attacking V4L or e-cigs, just being mindful that sometimes people tend to promote the safety of something they personally like out of emotion instead of hard facts.
Why? We all know the big tobacco companies are in it for the money and could care less about our health. I'm done with them since discovering personal vaporizers. We all know smoking tobacco, especially the chemically enhanced tobacco that the big cigarette companies produce, is deadly. So there really isn't any need to delve into what these evil companies are adding to the tobacco. I think they've proven beyond all reasonable doubt that cannot be trusted so it matters little what "new" additives they may be adding to their products.
I think you're correct as it concerns other areas of our lives and other products we buy. You should be more concerned with what they are putting in our food supply verses a product you no longer use.
Why? We all know the big tobacco companies are in it for the money and could care less about our health. I'm done with them since discovering personal vaporizers. We all know smoking tobacco, especially the chemically enhanced tobacco that the big cigarette companies produce, is deadly. So there really isn't any need to delve into what these evil companies are adding to the tobacco. I think they've proven beyond all reasonable doubt that cannot be trusted so it matters little what "new" additives they may be adding to their products.
I think you're correct as it concerns other areas of our lives and other products we buy. You should be more concerned with what they are putting in our food supply verses a product you no longer use.
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