My double barrel mod - The Double D

[jiff]

Keep in mind, the 901, 510, kr808, and I *believe* most of those "starter" models (I say starter because most people begin with one of those three) are not true 3.7v devices. I read somewhere that a guy tested them with a multimeter to find they were closer to 3.1-3.2v. I *think* they make LR 901 attys now... but I can't remember for sure or where I think I saw them. Just an idea of another thing to try out.

Just found them while typing this. altsmoke is where I saw LR 901 attys. However, it says not to use on stock 901 batteries... so that idea is out for now.

As for using the cartos on a 901, that will give you a lot more juice capacity. A LOT more. You'll notice a big improvement there. You can find those adapters in a lot of places. Altsmoke and a few others all have them.

There is a thread up top of this forum with soldering tips, it helped me out a lot.. but I still can't do a clean solder job all of mine end up wicked messy with too much solder... You may have better hands than I do though.

 

[jiff]

So how can I convert the 901 or KR808D-1 to produce a 5v? I was thinking about trying the Extra Long KR808D-1 Batteries at V4L, as they also have a 13 sec cut off. Do these Extra Long KR808D-1 Batteries have more volt than the 901 Batteries? The 5v is perfect for what I am wanting in the TH.

They long battery life, unfortunately, does not effect the volatage output. If 5v is what you are looking for though, I'm pretty sure usb passthroughs all do it. Take that with a grain of salt because I'm not 100% on it.

There a lot of 5v mods out there as well. Off the top of my head the joker and saber touch are both 5v mods. I know there's a lot more but my allergies are kicking in today so I really am not thinking well.

 

[misterD]

if high voltage on regular batteries is what you're looking for, maybe you should try LR (low resistance) atomizers on them. its gonna kill your batteries much sooner than usual but it'd do the trick!

 

[Sci]

Hello Sci,

Thanks for verifying the adaptor for me, really appreciate it!





I have some 0mg, 6mg, and one 18mg bottle, because that is all I could get, in this one Menthol Flavor I wanted to try. I try to get VG, since I have a LOT of allergies, however I do have some PG stuff. I have notice with my recipe useing the PG stuff, makes me itch all over, a lot. No rashes, just ITCH!

I read somewhere the PG is better for Vapor, but I am not worried about that. Yes, I also read the higher the nic, the better the TH, however someone else who use 0mg, said if I would get a very strong Menthol flavor, I would still get a good TH, plus use a 5 volt device. So this is why I was looking for some Menthol Crystals. I did fine 100% Pure Mentha Arvensis Crystals and Menthol Drops at http://www.juicyliquid.com , so will give them a try. I also like to add a little Mint to my mixture. Sometimes I thin it out with 0mg VG. Eventually, I would like to be all 0mg.

I also grow my own Mint Leaves, in my flowerbeds, so would like to eventually work with my Mint Leaves to make some juices..

VG is a better vapor producer. I add VG to every mix I make. Not a whole lot, it's about 1/3 of the entire mix. The other 2/3 are PG based.

Get the drops from JuicyLiquid. Great stuff! But, it is strong, very strong. Start out with a drop per ml or so & work up til you get it where you want it. Do not try vaping it straight! Take it from someone who knows, don't do it!

So how can I convert the 901 or KR808D-1 to produce a 5v? I was thinking about trying the Extra Long KR808D-1 Batteries at V4L, as they also have a 13 sec cut off. Do these Extra Long KR808D-1 Batteries have more volt than the 901 Batteries? The 5v is perfect for what I am wanting in the TH.

Any advice is appreciated! Thanks for you help!

The extra long batteries just last longer, they don't have any more voltage. For higher voltage, you'll have to go with a mod. You can make one for about $10 & use any connector(901-808-510, etc.) that you want or you can buy one(costs more). Jiff posted a link to a thread with a great walkthrough on how to do one or you can take a look here for some more tutorials: MadVapes e-Cig 'How To' Tutorials • Index page. Mad Vapes also sells pretty much everything you'll need to make a mod. Also, look through the classifieds, someone in there has always got a nice mod for sale.

 

[PurKat]

VG is a better vapor producer. I add VG to every mix I make. Not a whole lot, it's about 1/3 of the entire mix. The other 2/3 are PG based.

Get the drops from JuicyLiquid. Great stuff! But, it is strong, very strong. Start out with a drop per ml or so & work up til you get it where you want it. Do not try vaping it straight! Take it from someone who knows, don't do it! .

Hi Sci,

Thanks for the correction on VG making more vapors. Yes, I had only plain of using a few drops of the Menthol Drops, to add extra power and flavor. LOL! Did you like the Menthol Drops better than the Crystals?

The extra long batteries just last longer, they don't have any more voltage. For higher voltage, you'll have to go with a mod. You can make one for about $10 & use any connector(901-808-510, etc.) that you want or you can buy one(costs more). Jiff posted a link to a thread with a great walkthrough on how to do one or you can take a look here for some more tutorials: MadVapes e-Cig 'How To' Tutorials • Index page. Mad Vapes also sells pretty much everything you'll need to make a mod. Also, look through the classifieds, someone in there has always got a nice mod for sale.

I looked over the MadVapes Forum, and it was preety neat, seeing some of those MODS. I would probably purchase a MOD, before trying to make one. Right now, I just too much going on, to focus on learning how to make a MOD.

I did not realize, I needed a MOD, to get a 5v. Hmmm? That sort of sucks, since I like the slender looks best. However, I would consider something in the size of a Saber Touch, or some other MOD in that shape and size range.

Some of these MODs do not look very lady like, to me. LOL! But I guess in the privacy of your own home, it would not matter much. HA!

I really appreciate your help!

Enjoy!

 

[PurKat]

if high voltage on regular batteries is what you're looking for, maybe you should try LR (low resistance) atomizers on them. its gonna kill your batteries much sooner than usual but it'd do the trick!

Hello MisterD,

LR (low resistance) atomizers , Hmmm? Guess I had not read about them. Who carries them? Can I use them on my 901, or the KR808D-1?

Do these LR Atomizers cut the battery life in half, or do you get better mileage than that? Just trying to figure out how fast they kill the batteries. HA!

Thanks for the tip!

 

[misterD]

i've never ordered from ikenvape but he carries it
LR Low Resistance atomizer
there are no LR cartomizers available yet that i know of

Hello MisterD,

LR (low resistance) atomizers , Hmmm? Guess I had not read about them. Who carries them? Can I use them on my 901, or the KR808D-1?

Do these LR Atomizers cut the battery life in half, or do you get better mileage than that? Just trying to figure out how fast they kill the batteries. HA!

Thanks for the tip!

 

[Sci]

i've never ordered from ikenvape but he carries it
LR Low Resistance atomizer
there are no LR cartomizers available yet that i know of

I stumbled across LR cartos(510) the other nite & can't remember where. I want to try them.

 

[jiff]

Suppliers I have looked at before (altsmoke, specifically) state LR attys should not be used with stock batteries. I'm not sure where the concern lies, but it is there. I would be hesitant unless someone else chimes in with more knowledge than I.

 

[misterD]

dont worry, jiff! here i am
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...need-help-lr-510-atomizer-considerations.html

 

[5cardstud]

Hi Jiff,

Thanks for the feedback! I read somewhere to use the KR808D-1 Batteries, Cartos, with the 901 Atty.

My Passthrough bite the dust, and burned up my last Atty! I notice a white light flashing on the Passthrough, I took a puff, and things were just fine, but I did not unplug it when I finished on the computer. Although, I have never unplug it before. Weird! Now it is totally dead. Think I will get separate USB Hub for my Computer, and not plug the Passthrough directly into my computer, next time. I have dual processors, so maybe too much power for the Passthrough?

I really like that extra power, for the TH, on the Passthrough, Wish my 901 would do that on its own.



I already check out MrPuffer, and he is all Sold Out, for now. Might check back later on. I really want the GGSS, so started saving my pennies. HA! But now, fixen to purchase the KR808D-1 and Cartos to use with 901 Atty, and will also try the 501 Atty with it. I still have six 901 Batteries, so need an adaptor, I think, so I can use these 901 Batteries on the Cartomizers.

How sweet of you, to offer me help, like this. Thanks! I just might take you up on it, some day. I really appreciate you offering your knowledge to help me! Time wise, right now, I do not have the time to dedicate toward forcusing on this. It will probably be another 30 days, before things settle down, so I can do this. Just too busy with my Medical Support Group, right now. I will look YOU up! HA!

Once again, thank you!

Enjoy! [/QUOTE]
The power for your usb don't come from the processor, it comes from the power supply. LOL
If your 808 passthrough is kaput I have a brand new auto passthrough I can let you have. Just PM me if you need it.

 

[Sci]

Suppliers I have looked at before (altsmoke, specifically) state LR attys should not be used with stock batteries. I'm not sure where the concern lies, but it is there. I would be hesitant unless someone else chimes in with more knowledge than I.

I think it has something to do with current. Current is what cooks the juice. If you lower the resistance, you'll increase the current. When you increase the voltage & leave the resistance the same, you increase current. That's why 5v mods put out so much vapor.
I don't think that a regular e-cig battery is made to handle the current draw. Sure, it may work, for a little while, but it's going to wear out a lot faster.
Think of it like a water pump. Water pressure is the current, the pipe is the resistor, the pump is supplying the voltage. With a small pipe, it's easy to keep up the pressure. Increase the size of the pipe(less resistance) & the pump has to work twice as hard to keep up the pressure. It's gonna wear out a lot quicker.
Or something like that.

 

[quasimod]

/.../
Some of these MODs do not look very lady like, to me.!

I've heard more than one lady mention that! I wonder if you would be more likely to use a small power pack that fits in your purse, with a Pass-through plugged into it. You would have High Voltage vaping in a small form-factor, the only down-side would be the dangly cord attaching you to your purse.

Ladies? Thoughts?

 

[PurKat]

I've heard more than one lady mention that! I wonder if you would be more likely to use a small power pack that fits in your purse, with a Pass-through plugged into it. You would have High Voltage vaping in a small form-factor, the only down-side would be the dangly cord attaching you to your purse.

Ladies? Thoughts?

Not for me. The dangly cord would get tangle on purse items, very easily. If you were driving, it also interfere with that. And, if you out and about, the dangly cord may also look dangerous to other people. I would go rather go a bit larger, than be attack to a cord.

Great Idea, someone eles may like it! HA!

 

[PurKat]

Suppliers I have looked at before (altsmoke, specifically) state LR attys should not be used with stock batteries. I'm not sure where the concern lies, but it is there. I would be hesitant unless someone else chimes in with more knowledge than I.

Hi Jiff,

I have a question to you, and the other guys. I have not ordered the KR808D-1, because it would not satisfy my need for a 5v or 6v. So I did some google searching, and I found this site, that list all the 5v and 6v MODs, with the batteries they use. e-Cig Mods Battery Chart | eCigarette-Mods.com

Each MOD is also link to the supplier who has that MOD.

Of all the 5v and 6v MODs, listed on the above website link, which one is the best to have? Which one would last the longest, with the least problems?

Thanks Guys! Appreciate any feedback, you can give me!

 

[jiff]

Well, ultimately it is a decision up to you on what you like as far as appearances go... Of those models, you will hear a lot of praises to the GGTS, BB, SB, CHUCK, Saber Touch, and Super Six. The GGTS, as you know, can house pretty much any battery combonation. That gives the option of 3.7v, 6v, and 7.2v (I think?). The BB and SB I think are no longer made to house 2 batteries... but I could be wrong on that. The CHUCK is one that everyone that has one will tell you they love it. Completely customizable on the exterior. Since you're looking for something lady-like, check out thagbuilt.com and you'll see you can get any image or logo on the outside casing. I don't own one myself, but you do hear loads of good things about it's durability as well. The Saber Touch is relatively new, and it has that nifty touch switch. The Super Six is also another model that many users love.

As for durability. There are four of the above mentioned that always mention durability in reviews: GGTS, SB, BB, and the CHUCK. All four are sturdy models that could probably be run over by a steamroller and still work.

I couldn't say which one is best, since it is too hard to say when different people have different needs. One person will say GGTS, the next will say the CHUCK. Personally, I loved my SB when I was using it.. but I pretty much use box mods now and my girlfriend stole my SB.

Personally I think if you went with ANY of those models, you would end up a happy camper.

 

[PurKat]

As for durability. There are four of the above mentioned that always mention durability in reviews: GGTS, SB, BB, and the CHUCK. All four are sturdy models that could probably be run over by a steamroller and still work.

Hi Jiff,
The BB website said stacking batteries is not recommended, so I am confused, without stacking, it is only a 3.7v. Yes, I have read about many people like their CHUCK. The SB look real nice too. I will do some more research on these, and make my decision.

Thanks Jiff! Appreciate your feedback!

 

[quasimod]

They have to say it is "not recommended", for a couple of reasons. There have been a few incidents (mostly with unprotected batts) where Li-Ion batts have been over-discharged while in use. That can cause a run-away chemical reaction, where the battery gets super hot, and blows out gas and flames. Sometimes this is called an "explosion". If this happens in an airtight container (like a metal mod with no vent holes drilled into it to release the pressure), then that container is likely to explode. This can happen to a single battery as well, but most reports have been with stacked, unprotected batts. So, to be responsible to their customers, reduce liability, and conform with new ECF rules, suppliers are now "not recommending" stacking, especially unprotected batts ("protected" batts contain electronics that will "turn off" the batt if it's over or under charged).

Now, having said all that: The guy that makes the Silver Bullet stacks batts in the ones that HE uses. You can also buy high-voltage batt packs, which are essentially stacked, directly from battery manufacturers. The risk is relatively small with protected batts.

 

[PurKat]

They have to say it is "not recommended", for a couple of reasons. There have been a few incidents (mostly with unprotected batts) where Li-Ion batts have been over-discharged while in use. That can cause a run-away chemical reaction, where the battery gets super hot, and blows out gas and flames. Sometimes this is called an "explosion". If this happens in an airtight container (like a metal mod with no vent holes drilled into it to release the pressure), then that container is likely to explode. This can happen to a single battery as well, but most reports have been with stacked, unprotected batts. So, to be responsible to their customers, reduce liability, and conform with new ECF rules, suppliers are now "not recommending" stacking, especially unprotected batts ("protected" batts contain electronics that will "turn off" the batt if it's over or under charged).

Now, having said all that: The guy that makes the Silver Bullet stacks batts in the ones that HE uses. You can also buy high-voltage batt packs, which are essentially stacked, directly from battery manufacturers. The risk is relatively small with protected batts.

Thanks for the explanation!

Another thing that is very confusing, is when a supplier says to use a particular battery in their products, yet Uses, or even places like this site e-Cig Mods Battery Chart | eCigarette-Mods.com said you can use different batteries in them. Sure makes me wonder if it is safe, since the supplier, for instances, did not give the options to use say "AB" batteries or "CD" batteries, in that particular PV model.

I really appreciate your input! Thanks again, for the taking the time to explain things!!