Wow! Great post, thanks! I hadn't used any of the acids in my juices. I heard of people doing that, but hadn't tried it. The saline solution makes perfect sense in the same way that salt brings out the flavor of food. I was putting the EM in it thinking it would have the same effect of sugar in food. The saline probably really opens them up! Now that I think back, the flavors did seem to flatten after a few days, when I thought they would improve. Thanks for showing me that thread too. It looks like a lot of information there!