my experiences with stardust

[vapspaz]

okay folks, the good news is I just received our first Stardust. The bad news is I can't get rid
of the dry burnt taste. I have removed the mouth peace and reached down and then pulled up the rubber cup seal a little to give the wicket more room. I got nutin.

Do you have to wash these things before you use them? I sure as hell hope not. I've read about the break in period, but there's no way in hell I'm gonna vape this nasty taste for an hour or so before it's broken in. LOL

I remember a thread someplace talking about how to get these things working right but I for the life of me I cannot find it.

And FYI I always use 70/30 PG/VG joose.

Any advice and/or help would be much appreciated.



edit: BTW... other than the nasty burnt taste, which i'm sure I can make go away, the quality of these things are outstanding

 

[timothy]

Tip it upside down to wet the wick and drop a couple drops down the silicone cup and see if that helps

 

[vapspaz]

Thanks, but this ain't my first rodeo with the top coil design. lol That's the first thing I did before I even fired it up. I've learned my leasons in the past. lol

I've even had it setting tilted down for the past hour and the best I get is a little good flavor on the first hit but over powered by the nasty stuff.

Thanks though.

 

[antfuzz]

Here's my suggestion. Empty your juice out pour in some pure grain alcohol, if you want wait until it dries, or just start dry burning.

 

[Big Screen D]

Here's my suggestion. Empty your juice out pour in some pure grain alcohol, if you want wait until it dries, or just start dry burning.

This is a good suggestion.

If one is bothered by a plastic smell out of the box with these, a rinse out with Vodka followed by a dry burn worked well for me.

As far as dry hits, the break in period is not hype. The same Stardust that would give me some dry hits at 3.5v at first, was hitting beautifully at 4.5v by the 5th fill.

 

[vapspaz]

Ok. I got some PGA setting here and I'll let'r soak for a bit. Thanks!

Do you have to clean all of them before you use them or did I just get a misfit?

 

[badkolo]

probably a misfit most likely, there is a simple tips video for these for any issues that might arise but to be honest the stardust has been very headache free for the most part.

 

[antfuzz]

I received mine today and had no problem with getting good hits on it except for the very cool almost air-conditioned like vaper. It did take a while to get some flavor to show through. I'm going to order some resistance wire to see if I can get these to a lower resistance.

 

[Big Screen D]

Like everything vaping related YMMV.

For those using regulated eGo's, some may find the vape a little cool and or lacking. So the lower resistance ones that are coming in will likely be an improvement.

My eGo's run 3.7-4.1 volts unloaded depending on charge level, and work well with these. AFTER the break in period of several tanks, these really shine on my VV mod between 4.2-4.5 volts depending on juice.

(Hope you're stocked up on VV eGo's Bad)

 

[BonnyC]

Like everything vaping related YMMV.

For those using regulated eGo's, some may find the vape a little cool and or lacking. So the lower resistance ones that are coming in will likely be an improvement.

My eGo's run 3.7-4.1 volts unloaded depending on charge level, and work well with these. AFTER the break in period of several tanks, these really shine on my VV mod between 4.2-4.5 volts depending on juice.

(Hope you're stocked up on VV eGo's Bad)

You're not lying about the cool vape. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to use this thing until I got it to work on my vv dongle. I have it on the highest setting, I forgot what the voltage is, but it is much warmer now. I am just going to have to switch to another carto when I have to get mobile. At least until I can get a vv ego.

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[Big Screen D]

You're not lying about the cool vape. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to use this thing until I got it to work on my vv dongle. I have it on the highest setting, I forgot what the voltage is, but it is much warmer now. I am just going to have to switch to another carto when I have to get mobile. At least until I can get a vv ego.

Sent from lala land using my epic tablet!

On my end, these have given purpose to my unregulated eGo's. The 1100mah batteries have wouldn't fire the LR mega dual coils had originally bought them for. Been using an IPro, but have since dusted em off an capped em with Stardust.

 

[dannoman]

On this ohm of the stardust (around 2.6-2.8 or so) you will get your best performance on an unregulated eGo/Riva/Mod @ 3.7v, but it will break in nicely and also should perform well on an eGo at 3.3-3.4.

For me these have been performing from first fill, first vape on an unregulated eGo - Chris saw it on video and he can attest. I was blown away. I am a big fan of our Fluxomizers and this may replace them or it will def be put in rotation. There is no tweaking of a cup seal with this and it is a very solidly built, well thought out unit.

Vaspaz you didn't say what PV you were vapign with (I don't think?) but do make sure you are getting a good solid connect with your charged battery (where you aren't gettign a partial hit then it shorts or I should rather say, doesn't complete a fire). You really shouldn't be seeing dry hits at all and I MEAN from your first vape. When it breaks in it only gets better.

For others, If you are getting a cooler vape than you would rather, this ohm version does work better at 3.7v. The next shipment we have coming in will be more in the range of 2.2-2.5ohms or so. But with that said - it will break in. I get the same warmth from this top-coil as I do on the Fluxomizers and I got that from first vape.Some tips:

1. Don't be shy about going .1-.2 ml above the wicking. Just don't go over the white cap seal. In my experience, I filled it completely submersing the wick, didn't even set it aside, started vaping it right away, and it vaped very very well.

2. When you reinsert the mouthpiece push it down gently twisting until you feel a little click. Gives a great seal, you can completely turn the unit upside down and it won't leak. Very solid in this area.

3. Again, get a good solid connection. If need be the connector on the Stardust has a flat head screw driver slot to twist it out a bit. It usually doesn't need much with most cartos when adjusting this. I didn't have to do this but just a suggestion if needed.

4. As your battery is used with other cartos, then you switch to a different carto, the battery pin may have been pushed down commiserate with other cartos, from use. So it doesn't hurt to also check that area and adjust if necessary. THIS IS something you should be aware of with ANY carto whether it is the Stardust or not.

5. ENJOY and GET several! For each of your fave juices :O

In my experience: this has been an awesomely simple to perform, out-of-the-box performing unit as I have ever used. If you like to wash things out before you use them go ahead--I didn't and am not getting any plasticy taste. If you do get a mild plasticy taste on a new Stardust it will vape through in no time.

 

[vapspaz]

Hey Dan, Thanks for all the feed back. I'm using it on both my standard ego batt as well as my Provari. I noticed the ohms is 3.2 on my Provari so I know I'm not running it to hot. And yes, I did have some trouble with the connection at first with the 510 to ego adapter I just bought from you guys on my Provari. It wouldn't even make the connection so I just cranked it down tight onto the Provari and it worked fine.

The taste is the one that we all have had before. It's that hard to describe taste like plastic or burnt taste. I washed it out in PGA and dry burned it last night and it helped a little. It did still have that funky taste a little so I pulled up on the cup seal again and only twisted the mouth piece down until the first threads made contact. The rest of the night is started to get better and better flavor. So this morning I tried to twist the mouth piece down all the way and I started to get the funky taste again so I backed it off a little and it seems ok.

FYI, I was checking all 5 that arrived to verify they were not DOA before I gave them out to my family members. I noticed the following ohms on each of them.
3.5
3.3
3.2
3.1
3.1

I think this is why some folks (myself included) are thinking they are a little too cool for them on a non VV PV. I'm using mine on the Provari at 4.2v and it's got a nice warmth to it. I don't dare to go much higher until I get it broke in a little more and figure out this funky taste thing. I suspect the cup seal is getting pushed down a little to far. But the strange thing is I can clearly see it and it looks okay.

BTW.... What is the purpose of that little brass disc thing that's inside the cup seal? Has anyone removed it? I'm thinking that it is restricting the vapor trying to pass through that little hole.
Based on your previous post in that other thread I think I will try and jump on the next batch of lower ohms so I can use them on my ego's.

edit:
I forgot to say that I think the design and quality of these Stardust are as good as it gets. They have finally produced a carto that has a nice "finished" look and feel to them. Based on everyone;s experiences and feed back on these things, I know I just have a misfit that I need to tweak a little. I can easily see the Stardust design becoming the standard for all top coil designs out there.

Good stuff, VERY good stuff.

 

[BonnyC]

So a higher ohm will cause it to have a cool vape on a regular ego battery? Maybe that's why I am experiencing that. I am loving it on my dongle at 3.7 and 4.0. Of course, everything is better for me at a higher voltage. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about how ohms and volts relate to each other. Someone tried to instruct me a while back, but I didn't absorb enough of it. I'll have to go dig up that PM.

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[zoiDman]

So a higher ohm will cause it to have a cool vape on a regular ego battery? Maybe that's why I am experiencing that. I am loving it on my dongle at 3.7 and 4.0. Of course, everything is better for me at a higher voltage. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about how ohms and volts relate to each other. Someone tried to instruct me a while back, but I didn't absorb enough of it. I'll have to go dig up that PM.

Sent from lala land using my epic tablet!

Yes, Higher Ohms means a Carto/Atty runs Cooler. And Lower Ohms means it runs Hotter.

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Just a Note one Soaking: If a person doesn't have PGA or you can't buy PGA in your state, Vodka or White Vinegar works fine to Soak/Clean Filler-Less type Cartos.

Whatever you use, I would Rinse and Dry the Carto before using.

 

[dannoman]

Many people use the Provari to measure ohms and it isn't always reliable. We had done the same thing on these stardusts when we first got them and contacted our guy who double checked things, went to the factory floor immediately, etc...this is all in this past week. He confirmed that the ohms were in teh correct range as stated 2.5-2.8 or so. The Provari is picking up at the connector and this isn't true.

To measure true ohms you have to snip the coil wire and attach leads there, THEN you get true ohm. The Provari isn't really a true ohm measure. IT will provide good relative measure for what it does, yes, but not TRUE ohm.

Our guy did random sampling of around 50 Stardusts for us and sent us a pretty detailed report back with pictures, etc. I'll post them when I get back or Chris may post them if I haven't. Chis also pulled out his actual ohm tester and checked, double checked our stardusts and confirmed...again, the Provari is not a reliable true ohm tester. That was a quick and dirty feature added into the electronics on a PV. It tries to run an ohm test through the connector and it can run into solder points, etc and just simply it is not an industrial tester.

Hey Dan, Thanks for all the feed back. I'm using it on both my standard ego batt as well as my Provari. I noticed the ohms is 3.2 on my Provari so I know I'm not running it to hot. And yes, I did have some trouble with the connection at first with the 510 to ego adapter I just bought from you guys on my Provari. It wouldn't even make the connection so I just cranked it down tight onto the Provari and it worked fine.

The taste is the one that we all have had before. It's that hard to describe taste like plastic or burnt taste. I washed it out in PGA and dry burned it last night and it helped a little. It did still have that funky taste a little so I pulled up on the cup seal again and only twisted the mouth piece down until the first threads made contact. The rest of the night is started to get better and better flavor. So this morning I tried to twist the mouth piece down all the way and I started to get the funky taste again so I backed it off a little and it seems ok.

FYI, I was checking all 5 that arrived to verify they were not DOA before I gave them out to my family members. I noticed the following ohms on each of them.
3.5
3.3
3.2
3.1
3.1

I think this is why some folks (myself included) are thinking they are a little too cool for them on a non VV PV. I'm using mine on the Provari at 4.2v and it's got a nice warmth to it. I don't dare to go much higher until I get it broke in a little more and figure out this funky taste thing. I suspect the cup seal is getting pushed down a little to far. But the strange thing is I can clearly see it and it looks okay.

BTW.... What is the purpose of that little brass disc thing that's inside the cup seal? Has anyone removed it? I'm thinking that it is restricting the vapor trying to pass through that little hole.
Based on your previous post in that other thread I think I will try and jump on the next batch of lower ohms so I can use them on my ego's.

edit:
I forgot to say that I think the design and quality of these Stardust are as good as it gets. They have finally produced a carto that has a nice "finished" look and feel to them. Based on everyone;s experiences and feed back on these things, I know I just have a misfit that I need to tweak a little. I can easily see the Stardust design becoming the standard for all top coil designs out there.

Good stuff, VERY good stuff.

So a higher ohm will cause it to have a cool vape on a regular ego battery? Maybe that's why I am experiencing that. I am loving it on my dongle at 3.7 and 4.0. Of course, everything is better for me at a higher voltage. Unfortunately, I don't know a lot about how ohms and volts relate to each other. Someone tried to instruct me a while back, but I didn't absorb enough of it. I'll have to go dig up that PM.

Sent from lala land using my epic tablet!

 

[ckim111]

You are getting the burnt taste because juice is not wicking all the way through your wicks. It may be that the cup seal is pushing down too at on the wick causing the juice to not flow as freely. Or you could just have and wicks that aren't wicking well. You can try cutting a tiny bit around the bottom of the cup to give a little room between the cup and the wick

 

[butters73]

@ chris and dan,i love these stardusts,only one complaint,maybe my own fault,ive got 18650 mods(TALL) and when ive knocked 2 of them over,the threads broke right off.shocking right?NEVER ever happen with ANY other atty or cart.maybe i should be more careful huh?anyway,just fyi.....still gonna buy them.

 

[Big Screen D]

You are getting the burnt taste because juice is not wicking all the way through your wicks. It may be that the cup seal is pushing down too at on the wick causing the juice to not flow as freely. Or you could just have and wicks that aren't wicking well. You can try cutting a tiny bit around the bottom of the cup to give a little room between the cup and the wick

I would not trim the cup seal. It will almost certainly leak into the airway.

If anyone continues getting dry hits after running through 3-4 tankfuls, I'd suggest pulling the tank and cup seal off and have a look at the coil to see if only part of the coil is firing. IE shorted causing a hot spot.

Clean it, dry burn, dry and fluff up the wick outside the cup, then reassemble.

I've been using 4 of these between myself and the wife for six weeks now. The more they are used, the more they wick has been my experience. In fact, 2 of them started wicking too much after about a week and would flood the atty if filled all the way.

 

[badkolo]

sure here you go

Im removing the pics for now, people that saw them know what its about, anyone that wants to see results can skype me.

you might even get some showing 6 ohms, will still vape the same.

some might fall in tot he 2.9 range and some at 3.0 but many are actually what they are suppose to be despite the readings you get.