My first go at mixing...Mothers Milk Clone...Lets start with a question

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Haven't tried it yet sounds pretty good I've been vaping this um I was gonna get a 120ml bottle but I just decided to buy a few 15 ml of other juices I also stocked up on flavors got some lorann tfa cap etc got a few nut flavors because I'm starting to think that's the key also got a few new creams and fruits I got tfa strawberry not strawberry ripe is that the one you said was close to premium ejuice flavors
 

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Haven't tried it yet sounds pretty good I've been vaping this um I was gonna get a 120ml bottle but I just decided to buy a few 15 ml of other juices I also stocked up on flavors got some lorann tfa cap etc got a few nut flavors because I'm starting to think that's the key also got a few new creams and fruits I got tfa strawberry not strawberry ripe is that the one you said was close to premium ejuice flavors
TFA Strawberry is candy-like where Ripe is fruit-like. I prefer the ripe.
 

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This is the recipe I've been using for Suicide Bunny's "Mother's Milk"

TFA Ripe Strawberry 10% *I have substituted with Blueberry
TFA Vanilla Custard 3%
TFA CheeseCake 5%
TFA Bavarian Cream 3%
Signature Vanilla Swirl 3%
TFA Sweet Cream 2.5%
TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream 3%

I finally ordered an actual bottle and there are two distinct flavors that I noticed right off the bat that differ. The first is the originals strawberry has that artificial flavor. I prefer the "Ripe" Strawberry from TFA. The second flavor I'm getting is an Irish cream not found in my recipe. It's either that or I need to up my bavarian cream some. I test tasted the original with a dripper so as to get the cleanest purest flavor I could. I think I'm gonna up my Bavarian Cream in my next recipe and see if it does the trick and if it doesn't I'm gonna try a lil' Irish cream to see if that does it and I'll report back. :)

Whahooo that s a lot of flavoring isn't it ? Did you get a better result upping the Bavarian cream ?
Sounds delicious but a bit 'strong' in %
 

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Made some mixes with LA Amaretto today as I don't have toasted almond. They were pretty good, but the alcohol flavor of the amaretto got in the way a bit.

I also steeped the base and split a 10ml batch into 5 2ml testers to try various strawberries. TFA is still my choice with Cap Strawberries and cream coming in second. Capella Sweet Straberry is really good when I drip a tiny bit directly on the coil, but for some reason, it just doesn't mix quite right for me. Not sure why that is, but it's pretty odd.
 
I got some amerreto hazelnut and cap toasted almond on the way hopefully there what I've been looking for and yeah you can smell it and taste it slightly but mostly smell I'm going for a um clone now because I feel like once I get that I will be okay mm is good but to me um has stronger flavor it's almost like pip is using vg based flavoring I got some cap strawberry and cream on the way as well
 

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Yeah, I mean - it's not just her - I'm pretty sure all "premium" ejuice has some awful .... in it. Is it worse than smoking? Depends on how you much you vape. I'm actually feeling kinda awful today (lung wise) after vaping Ballistic's "Praline Dream", and Pips Mother's Milk, along with her King's Crown line "Claim the Throne", "Bound by the Crown", and "The King". While she may not have diacetyl directly in there, it's pretty clear (to me based on how my body responds) that all custards are pretty ....ing awful for you.

I'm actually mixing up something with zero custard as I write this. Trying to stay low flavor % as well. Really love the custard, but starting to get on the "it's not worth it" train. I'm sure we'll find out that it's all pretty bad for you eventually, so for now I think I'm going to try to limit the awful .....
 
Same here I woke up yesterday morning with pain in my right lung I wast able to take a deep breath so I got up took short breaths and starting stretching and I felt better but it had me worried i might just stop making diy juice all at once because I noticed I vape way more when I diy cause I'm constantly trying new recipes some days I feel like I should just move back from rebuildables and just use a nautilus or protank again so I don't vape as much I might do that and just buy premium juice I love to diy it's a hobby but like you said it really isn't worth it in the end.
 

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I get a ton of orange in MM, more than strawberry tbh. I wouldn't really know strawberry was in there except for the smell you get from the bottle. I recently came to the conclusion that it's not OC tho, but rather straight orange. I'm guessing her cream base takes care of the cream part.

I just got my bottle of Boosted as well. Basically identical to UM, but has less nuttiness to it. It's interesting that these two premium juice vendors seem to have found the same recipe (well - not MM - it's a completely unique beast), but we can't quite crack it.
 

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I'm pretty sure all "premium" ejuice has some awful .... in it. Is it worse than smoking? Depends on how you much you vape. I'm actually feeling kinda awful today (lung wise) after vaping Ballistic's "Praline Dream", and Pips Mother's Milk, along with her King's Crown line "Claim the Throne", "Bound by the Crown", and "The King". While she may not have diacetyl directly in there, it's pretty clear (to me based on how my body responds) that all custards are pretty ....ing awful for you.

I currently vape a juice that is loaded with all the bad stuff.

strawberry/mango/lemon/butter Rum/coconut extra/toasted marsmallow/dulce de leche/sweet cream/bavarian cream/ny cheese cake/brown sugar/honey/vanilla custard/vanilla cupcake

Wont share exact formulation on this because it's mine hell I wont even share it with friends. My lungs feel fine after chain vaping it for hours on end and I'd wager it's as bad as MM if not worse. Whatever it takes to keep me happy is what I will vape regardless of what anyone says. The alternative for me could be my fourth clot from smoking and the risk of amputation or possibly even a stroke. My leg veins are already all screwed up pretty bad from smoking so in that regard vaping can only help me. If something is going to kill me let it be something I enjoy as long as I don't impose it on anyone else or force others to like it.

I don't agree with vendors like Suicide Bunny covering the truth which is extremely irresponsible. If anyone shows signs of lung problems who vaped her stuff with lack of disclosure it could be the end of her juice making career. But if someone wants to vape MM knowing full well the risks more power to them. More people have actually died from various stop smoking pills. I took Wellbutrin years ago and had a bad reaction where the skin on my entire body started flaking off constantly. Many have actually died from the various drugs currently used to quit smoking. So far there have been no proven reports of anyone dying from vaping. I will not be one of those suckers who gives up something that has done no proven harm in exchange for something that has proven to kill or do serious harm.

If you want to avoid the bad stuff in your juice it would be a good idea to avoid anything with butter/cream period. I like lots of fat on my meat but I understand some people also enjoy extremely lean meat. So you buy your lean while I enjoy my fat and we can all co exist happily.
 

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Crunk - totally agree with every point. Well written. I've never had luck with any vanilla cupcake flavors, or brown sugar, but your mix sounds pretty tasty.

Mike - man - I feel the same way. I keep thinking "yup - this is gonna be the one. I got this .... CRACKED!" and then boom - nowhere close.

The thing I find encouraging is that if Boosted and UM taste THAT similar, it likely means we can put the "she got some special extract .... going on" thing away. It *may* be true for MM (and I'm absolutely not of the opinion that it is, but it's a much more complex flavor than most imo), but for these other strawberry creams, it would seem likely that it's off the shelf .....
 
Man I was just about to give up but now that you say that I wanna keep trying I might just get some boosted so I can try it and crunk I agree well put I like fat on my meat to I love bacon and I know it will kill me but it makes me happy lol IMO cap straw and cream tastes kinda funny I mixed this up and it was meh

Tfa strawberry 7%
Cap vc v1 4%
Tfa Bavarian cream 2%
Cap Strawberry and cream 2%
Tfa Graham cracker crust 2%
1 drop of toasted almond every 10 ml
Kinda has a um smell but not really it's okay but the toasted almond kinda took over the whole mix and I only added a drop to 10ml pretty crazy I'm not really digging the tfa strawberry I haven't tried the ripe version yet but I will soon also gonna get some natures flavors strawberry but it's always out of stock:facepalm:
 

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I bought yesterday a bottle of original MM with 0 nicotine. I think that this is the best to guess composition (at least for me)
There is definitively some cinnamon inside this juice ! In fact i tried to smoke it on different equipment (rda rta and even simply on a aerotank and with that last one this is even the most dominant flavor for me). There are some other fruits in the background of strawberry but difficult to guess... I would say melon ...)
 
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