My kitty likes it

[ZorbaTheGreek]

I'm also pretty sure they are upset they don't get to go outside every 45 minutes.

Heh, mine definitely is I use 100% VG since I didn't react well with the PG, and when I used to smoke analogs, as soon as I even grabbed a lighter, the cat would leave. But she doesn't seem to mind vapor at all. Like someone else said, even she knows it's better than analogs!

 

[ladysolitary85]

my cat would beg and beg and beg for me to let her outside with me when I used analogs. She doesn't seem to care about my e-cig when I use it inside... in fact I think she's more ...... about the fact that I don't go outside as much to smoke

Sorry I'm still a noob here but what is PG and VG?

 

[Shatosa]

We have two cats, one manx and one calico. The manx has been with us longer and was subject to the second hand smoke that hung around our small 2 bedroom apartment. (we do have air filters that run regularly)

Last week, after hubby and I had been off cigs and vaping for a week, our manx had a more-than-usual bad attitude for a couple of days. We wondered if she was detoxing from the second hand smoke and was going through withdrawals? After two days of this behavior she returned to her 'normal' manx self.

Just wondered if anyone else's pets showed signs of withdrawal?

 

[Thulium]

my cat would beg and beg and beg for me to let her outside with me when I used analogs. She doesn't seem to care about my e-cig when I use it inside... in fact I think she's more ...... about the fact that I don't go outside as much to smoke

Sorry I'm still a noob here but what is PG and VG?

PG is Propylene Glycol and is the primary ingredient in most e-liquids.
VG is Vegetable Glycerin that is an alternate ingredient recommended for people who have an aversion to Propylene Glycol.

For most people, PG seems to give a greater "throat hit" and does a better job of transferring flavor. VG usually creates more vapor, but is not as effective transferring flavor and some have recommended against using it in high voltage PVs as there is potential for Glycerin to break down into other chemicals.

Many e-liquid makers are using a mixture of PG & VG to get the "best of both", but there are a few retailers selling VG-only juice. Also, many DIY (Do-it-yourself) vapers are purchasing pharmaceutical grade USP Vegetable Glycerin to mix their own e-liquid.

 

[blueberry1946]

Many years ago my husband told me about being careful not to leave any anti-freeze around the garage as pets, particularly cats, were drawn to it and that it would make them sick - that was ethylene glycol. Then came out a new antifreeze, I assume PG, and he told me it was no longer an issue around pets. I think PG is the same antifreeze we use to winterize the drinking pipes in our motor home. If you google "cats antifreeze" you find ethylene glycol, but I didn't see any propylene glycol links.

 

[dee5]

Ast__Isis, do I detect a StarGate fan?

 

[Sludge Van Diesel]

Ast__Isis, do I detect a StarGate fan?

I would imagine it's more likely to be somebody with an interest in ancient Egypt / Egyptology / Mythology

 

[Ast_Isis]

Actually I love Stargate and Egyptian mythology.

 

[e-pipeman]

This has been mentioned before - but here it is again...

Heinz Body Anemia In Cats

In short - don't feed your cat pg.

 

[Misshaunter]

Well I vape just vg juice so i don't worry too much about our kitty. He is really funny the other night the hubby just had to go and buy a pack of reg cigs. He came in smoking and the cat just looks at him and with a disgusted look on his face and hisses at him and headed to the bedroom. The whole time he was smoking the cat wouldn't come near him. Now when I'm vaping the cat is laying right next to me purring away. LOL I think animals are way smarter about certain things.

 

[Toritha]

I now have to compete for foot space under my desk as my kitties Jupiter and Saturn feel it is absolutely essential for them to be under there when i vape. Which of course results in my feet being attacked by clawless ferocious monsters if i move them from my allotted space.

also from a plaque I don't remember the authors name but it is perfect:

I'm only a cat and i stay in my place,
up there on your chair or your bed or your face

I'm only a cat and i don't finick much,
I'm happy with cream and anchovies and such

I'm only a cat and we'll get along fine,
as long as you know I'm not yours, you're all mine!

 

[makasin]

I can haz vaporburger?

 

[Senrysa]

I was at my daughters and her cat did they same thing....and we have a rescue rottweiler who was being used as a bait dog (9 weeks old) and they burned her with lit cigarettes. She hated me smoking she would snarl, bare her teeth, and sneeze...the first time I vaped around her she cocked her head and looked me so funny and started sniffing.. now she will just lay beside me all relaxed and I swear she can tell when I vape a new flavor goody..LOL

 

[Annie Miller]

all my cats are less offended by the vaping, but my female MeMe actually leans into the vapor and sniffs it when I exhale. she really likes blueberry cheesecake, and gingerbread

 

[Spills]

I blow the vapor in all my cats faces! My ferrets also Oh yea and small children, that one makes me laugh...it just never gets old

 

[tybin]

yes i would really like to see a sticky about this fact. I vape vg because of this and the amount of cats i have.

Oh, I didn't know that about PG and cats! 8-o I'm glad I read this. My kitties have been very intrigued about my e-cig, but I've never blown the vapor at them. Now I know I should actually be making it a point to blow it away from them.

My biggest concern until now has been keeping my e-cig and supplies away from them. One of my cats will eat *anything* (including rubber and plastic!), so I've had this fear that if he got ahold of any of it, he might chew through the cart or chew into a bottle and die from the nicotine.

He's really not a very smart cat.

 

[Raynen]

my minature black panther uno has been vaping with me for about 2 weeks - he loves it, runs up to it to get some if he can... but he used to smoke weed with me too in my younger days... odd that he hated cigs aswell

but i didnt know that pg was toxic to the felines, i use about 70%vg vapor - but i'm afraid my partner in crime will be indulging in our habit a bit less from now on...

he's gonna hate you guys

he really liked the butterscotch vape

Oh dear... I really want a miniature black panther!

 

[thh69]

my cats never liked smoke and until i quit i didnt realize that was the main thing keeping them off of my computer desk while i was working. I work from home so i sit here for hours on end but for weeks now it has become such a struggle to keep my babies from walking all over my keyboard, sitting in front of the monitor, and trying to play with everything on my desk knocking everything within their reach over. Baby girl(the worst of the 2) could care less about the vapor, i even tried blowing it right at her (i vape vg only so no worries) she just sniffs it and goes about on her destructive path with out a wince lol

 

[Annie Miller]

just read an article on propylene glycol and cat it stated

"Propylene glycol is used as a
moistening agent in many animal food
applications, but not in cat food. Although
propylene glycol is not used in cat food, the
U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA)
still considers it “generally recognized as safe”
(GRAS) for use in human food and all animal
foods other than for cats1.
Most cat food producers stopped using
propylene glycol in 1992 when data indicated a
unique sensitivity of cats to propylene glycol.
Specifically, studies found that large doses of
propylene glycol when fed to cats can produce
an abnormality known as “Heinz body” in the
cats’ red blood cells. Although Heinz bodies
only appear to shorten the lives of feline red
blood cells, FDA expressed concern that the
bodies could cause anemia in cats2.
In a final rule in 1996, FDA declared
propylene glycol in or on cat food not generally
recognized as safe.
Available data indicate that only cats
appear to be sensitive to Heinz body formation
from propylene glycol exposure. Heinz body
formation from propylene glycol has not been
observed in dogs, cattle, or humans. While
changing regulations to end the cat food use of
propylene glycol, FDA noted that the
compound continues to be GRAS when used in
accordance with good manufacturing or feeding
practice for all species other than cats"

my vet said that second hand vapor "probably" would not cause any problems, as they generally have to digest large amounts regularly before they develop Heinz body anemia.

basically it is fine to vape in the room with them, just avoid blowing the vapor in their face

 

[Sorrid]

I have a cat as well but here is something you should be aware of. Propylene glycol is known to be a common cause of a disease called Heinz Body Anema in cats.

Heinz Body Anemia In Cats

Now I assume that this deals with only ingestion of propylene glycol and not inhalation but is still something to consider.

Oops..nevermind my post as I see Anni Miller just above me has covered this nicely.