My state is so corrupt!!!

[ImperfectFuture]

Sigh. You think it's one party.

 

[Stosh]

It is one party.....the party of "We're doing this for your own good", the party of "We know better than you, trust us", the party of "We learned all we need from unscientific loons, but it seems right", the party of "We're just protecting the children", the party of "We're in charge so just listen to everything we say", the party of the "Ruling class vs the peons".

This party travels under many banners and names, but it is one party....

 

[coalyard]

It is one party.....the party of "We're doing this for your own good", the party of "We know better than you, trust us", the party of "We learned all we need from unscientific loons, but it seems right", the party of "We're just protecting the children", the party of "We're in charge so just listen to everything we say", the party of the "Ruling class vs the peons".

This party travels under many banners and names, but it is one party....

Oh boy, true dat! I don't think the word "liberal" means what they think it means anymore.

 

[Stosh]

Oh boy, true dat! I don't think the word "liberal" means what they think it means anymore.

Unfortunately conservative, libertarian, greens, socialist, etc....are not any better.
Each just wants to control different aspects of your life, but control they must.

 

[ImperfectFuture]

Oh boy, true dat! I don't think the word "liberal" means what they think it means anymore.

I think you missed his point.

 

[mostlyclassics]

i have already said to myself if this country(united states) gets any more worse or corrupt. like if i can't afford health insurance or to pay for medications or if it becomes a dictatorship which it sorta is. i am up an moving to Canada where its quiet and peaceful, not all the drama and free high quality public healthcare system. you just walk into hospital get treated for whatever including cancer and no bill collectors crawling up your but. Canada would be a great place to escape to in my mind.

With all due respect, trentenmarschel, you might want to investigate Canada as a bolthole more thoroughly.

What follows is anecdotal, but I hear this sort of thing all the time from many different sources.

My sister and her family have lived in Canada for 30 years, and they're all dual citizens. She and my brother-in-law would be considered well on the liberal side of the Democrats here. But things happen there that turn even their stomachs — there is no constitutionally guaranteed free speech, for instance. In fact, there's no constitution, strictly speaking.

And ever since she spent 14 months in a wheelchair waiting for an "emergency" hip implant, they've spent huge bucks (on the order of $20,000 per year) for U.S. health insurance. They're in Edmonton, and about the only time we see them is when one or more of them come here to have some botched medical procedure redone. She had to have her hip implant redone here. And lots of Canadians, especially those close to the U.S. border, pay for U.S. medical insurance.

Canada is a big, complex country with a government that has almost as many problems as the U.S. government has. They've done as good — or bad — a job of coping with them as the U.S. has. And, like the U.S., their government is just as riddled with waste, fraud and corruption as ours is.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not ripping the Canadian government or Canadians in general. There is much to admire about Canadians. But I'm just pointing out that Canada is not Paradise on Earth. Nowhere is.

 

[DanielKF]

It is one party.....the party of "We're doing this for your own good", the party of "We know better than you, trust us", the party of "We learned all we need from unscientific loons, but it seems right", the party of "We're just protecting the children", the party of "We're in charge so just listen to everything we say", the party of the "Ruling class vs the peons".

This party travels under many banners and names, but it is one party....

You are awesome, just because you realize and understand this.

 

[Serendipity_Stables]

But but....we have way stronger beer here ;-)


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[coalyard]

I think you missed his point.

No sir, I do not miss any point. I get it loud and clear. My entire family is democrats. I voted for Reagan in 1984 at the tender of age of 18, and was a republican for my entire life after that. I ran for a State Senate seat in New Hampshire as a republican candidate in 2000. Until last year. I changed my voter registration to "undeclared" in 2013. No, I do not miss the point, ImperfectFuture, I see it very clearly.

Ya know, I am sometimes accused of using "talking points", but I am well past that. My talking points were ratified 223 years ago. See my post #37.