Narta and Narba by Coppervape (clone)

[rifky]

I am waiting for this attt. Wanna pick one of these but need suggestions.
Which one more flavorish? Narba or Narta? And from what I see, there is no plug in on juice refill hole. Is that leak when I put on my pocket or bag when traveling?

$13.23 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarBA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com
$13.19 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarTA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com

 

[93gc40]

I am waiting for this attt. Wanna pick one of these but need suggestions.
Which one more flavorish? Narba or Narta? And from what I see, there is no plug in on juice refill hole. Is that leak when I put on my pocket or bag when traveling?

$13.23 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarBA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com
$13.19 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarTA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com

The one with the most flavor will be the one you get the best flavor from........ those are so close in design that it comes down to your skill and taste buds vs mine. And very likely the time of day.

As for leakage..... all atties will Leak under right conditions..... if you get leakage through the hole plug it with a bit of cotton..... learn the conditions under which EACH of your atties will leak... avoid those conditions.

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[zoiDman]

I am waiting for this attt. Wanna pick one of these but need suggestions.
Which one more flavorish? Narba or Narta? And from what I see, there is no plug in on juice refill hole. Is that leak when I put on my pocket or bag when traveling?

$13.23 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarBA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com
$13.19 (Free Shipping) Coppervape NarTA Styled RDTA Rebuildable Dripping Tank Atomizer (316 SS, Silver) at m.FastTech.com

Hard to say which of these two would be More Flavorful?

It looks like the NarBa has a slightly Smaller chamber. Which would usually lead to More Flavor. But the Air Flow is Different than the NarTa. The NarTa using the same style Air Flow as the NarDa RDA. Which is at the Top of my All Time Favorite RDA List.

I went with the NarBa. But it was really a coin toss between the Two.

As for Leaking? That's hard to say Also. A Lot would depend on how Thick of an e-Liquid you use?

For a High VG e-Liquid, I Don't think you should have many problems. But as 93gc40 mentioned, All atomizers can Leak under certain situations. And some designs are Better for Home Use verses On-the-Go use.

 

[rifky]

Thanks for the information. But as we see, both juice port refill is fully open without any obstacles. Is there some vacum mechanism if the only one hole the juice cant pour down or something to prevent leak? It seem some what its same like nextera rta.

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks for the information. But as we see, both juice port refill is fully open without any obstacles. Is there some vacum mechanism if the only one hole the juice cant pour down or something to prevent leak? It seem some what its same like nextera rta.

I just Don't Know if it will Leak or not? It will be about Two Weeks until I get my NarBa. When it arrives, I'll post what I find.

BTW - This thread was started on the FT site today...

Refilling Hole: FastTech Forums

Dunno if that Cap Closing thing is true or not?

 

[Silver Dove]

in Todds review of the original, he mentions that if the wicks totally block the channels then refilling can be painfully messy due to vacuum, but by simply making a narrow airspace in the wick tails, the refilling hole works as intended, but no mention of cap closing...

 

[zoiDman]

... It will be about Two Weeks until I get my NarBa. When it arrives, I'll post what I find.

...

Just an Update:

My CopperVape NarBa arrived yesterday. A Very Nice RDTA

The Machining / Fit and Finish is Great.
O-Rings holding the Top Cover are Tight.
Most of my 510 Drip Tips work Fine, but I kinda like the Shorty Altem that come with it.
Building/Wicking it is Easy and Straight Forward.
Airflow is on the Restrictive Side.
Size and Looks are Great also.
Flavor is Good using a 0.6 Ohm SS or a 1.0 Ohm NiChrome 80 3mm Coil. Maybe not the Best I have ever had. But Very Good.

As for Leaking? I Haven't had any Leaking or Flooding with my High VG e-Liquids. I laid it on it's side for an hour. It doesn't want to leak. Maybe a 50|50 or a High PG would leak, but Not Seeing a problem with my High VG e-Liquids.

Is it something I would Recommend? Yes. For the Price I paid, it is worth trying.

 

[Dudeus Nordicus]

NarBa clone not from faster-faster-oh-fastertech but here goes, using the zoiDman review format.

The machining / fit and finish is great, except the outer corners of the air flow "slope" which were sharp and benefitted from a quick filing down.

O-ring holding the top cover was perfect. It's a slender one though and probably the first needing replacing (spare included).

O-rings for the glass tank were on the tight side with minor shredding easily snipped off. Despite lubing the o-rings I managed to fracture the original glass while putting it back on after routine first wash. Luckily got spares and no issues second time around.

The 510 pin seems perfect length.

The original PEI/ultem drip tip looks nice, but since the coil is so close I prefer a medium height and medium tight draw one. Drip tip well is standard size so all tips fit perfectly.

Airflow is medium tight/restrictive fully open, but the novel slope design works surprisingly well to tighten it further down in required. If I closed the air flow to near minimum and used a short, tight-draw drip tip I ended up with juice coming up the drip tip so aim for a happy medium. Fully open works even for MTL.

Good strong flavour and moist vape using a 1.0Ω / 2.9mm / 27AWG kanthal spaced coil wicked with Fiber Freaks denser #2 cotton blend. Perhaps little too moist and rich for me (yeah it guzzles wtf! ), especially when the tank is fuller, so next I'll probably try a 2.5mm coil that pulls up a little less juice.

When building be mindful of the ideal length of coil. Spaced and bit shorter than the air slope got me started fine. Philips crosshead coil screws would be easier to work with than the present flat-heads.

No leakage from the tank. The top cap seals the fill port and the wick tails seal their own channels (thin the tails to leave tiny air escape gaps in them). Condensation from the rich vape may cause a drop to form in the AFC gap.

As a compact pocket MTL carry-on I still prefer the similarly sized leak-proof Doggy Style RTA or even the Ego One Mega / CLR combo, but the NarBa will see some short-range action and it really does look awesome.

8½/10 (Form 9/10, function 8/10)

 

[zoiDman]

Good Review Dudeus Nordicus.

I have the NarTa coming. Should be here at the End of Next Week or so. When it arrives, I'll do a Side by Side comparison of the to the NarBa.

 

[rifky]

My Narba are stuck on SG damn.. I hope its arrive before Christmas

 

[zoiDman]

Good Review Dudeus Nordicus.

I have the NarTa coming. Should be here at the End of Next Week or so. When it arrives, I'll do a Side by Side comparison of the to the NarBa.

Just another Update:

My CopperVape NarTa arrived today. I am going to give it the Same, Positive Review as I did for the NarBa...

Just an Update:

My CopperVape NarBa arrived yesterday. A Very Nice RDTA

The Machining / Fit and Finish is Great.
O-Rings holding the Top Cover are Tight.
Most of my 510 Drip Tips work Fine, but I kinda like the Shorty Altem that come with it.
Building/Wicking it is Easy and Straight Forward.
Airflow is on the Restrictive Side.
Size and Looks are Great also.
Flavor is Good using a 0.6 Ohm SS or a 1.0 Ohm NiChrome 80 3mm Coil. Maybe not the Best I have ever had. But Very Good.

As for Leaking? I Haven't had any Leaking or Flooding with my High VG e-Liquids. I laid it on it's side for an hour. It doesn't want to leak. Maybe a 50|50 or a High PG would leak, but Not Seeing a problem with my High VG e-Liquids.

Is it something I would Recommend? Yes. For the Price I paid, it is worth trying.

... but with One Exception.

The Flavor of the NarTa is Much Better than the flavor of the NarBa.

MUCH Better.

So if you think the NarBa is Good, of just OK, I think you will like the NarTa a Lot More.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - I'm not sure why this RDTA doesn't leak with the Size of the Fill Hole.

But it just Doesn't seem to want to leak using a High VG e-Liquid.

 

[icebat]

NarBa clone not from faster-faster-oh-fastertech but here goes, using the zoiDman review format.

The machining / fit and finish is great, except the outer corners of the air flow "slope" which were sharp and benefitted from a quick filing down.

O-ring holding the top cover was perfect. It's a slender one though and probably the first needing replacing (spare included).

O-rings for the glass tank were on the tight side with minor shredding easily snipped off. Despite lubing the o-rings I managed to fracture the original glass while putting it back on after routine first wash. Luckily got spares and no issues second time around.

The 510 pin seems perfect length.

The original PEI/ultem drip tip looks nice, but since the coil is so close I prefer a medium height and medium tight draw one. Drip tip well is standard size so all tips fit perfectly.

Airflow is medium tight/restrictive fully open, but the novel slope design works surprisingly well to tighten it further down in required. If I closed the air flow to near minimum and used a short, tight-draw drip tip I ended up with juice coming up the drip tip so aim for a happy medium. Fully open works even for MTL.

Good strong flavour and moist vape using a 1.0Ω / 2.9mm / 27AWG kanthal spaced coil wicked with Fiber Freaks denser #2 cotton blend. Perhaps little too moist and rich for me (yeah it guzzles ...! ), especially when the tank is fuller, so next I'll probably try a 2.5mm coil that pulls up a little less juice.

When building be mindful of the ideal length of coil. Spaced and bit shorter than the air slope got me started fine. Philips crosshead coil screws would be easier to work with than the present flat-heads.

No leakage from the tank. The top cap seals the fill port and the wick tails seal their own channels (thin the tails to leave tiny air escape gaps in them). Condensation from the rich vape may cause a drop to form in the AFC gap.

As a compact pocket MTL carry-on I still prefer the similarly sized leak-proof Doggy Style RTA or even the Ego One Mega / CLR combo, but the NarBa will see some short-range action and it really does look awesome.

8½/10 (Form 9/10, function 8/10)

Solid review. Is it possible to get the airflow as tight as the Doggy on the NarBa without issues, or is this what caused juice coming up the drip tip?

 

[Dudeus Nordicus]

About the NarBa.

@icebat the drip tip upflow ceased to be an issue when I switched to a little wider and taller drip tip, although I also switched to plain cotton which doesn't saturate the wick quite as much as Fiber Freaks did (50/50 liquids here). People using less viscose higher VG liquid or more energetic coil builds than my 1 ohm one shouldn't experience the upflow.

Thinning the wick tails more should also help. I also left them fairly long, just of a few mm off the bottom, and can vape the tank spotless clean without issues.

The AFC works well from medium tight to very tight (even with a wider DT) and I find the flavour to be very good albeit a notch below Doggy Style with its tiny bell-shaped chamber and narrow chimney.

One more thing, to fill it's best to use needletip at least 1cm long if the tip's base is tapered, or 2cm long if flat. With the coil post obstructing access to fill hole the common plastic bottles with a 1cm tip on a flat base don't reach deep enough inside the tank and things may get a little messy.

@zoiDman, the NarTa has much better flavour than NarBa? Fascinating! Apart from the NarTa having airflow from two sides they seem so similar in other aspects. The fill hole is located much deeper in the NarTa so a long needletip will be an absolute necessity.

 

[zoiDman]

...

@zoiDman, the NarTa has much better flavour than NarBa? Fascinating! Apart from the NarTa having airflow from two sides they seem so similar in other aspects. The fill hole is located much deeper in the NarTa so a long needletip will be an absolute necessity.

The Flavor of the NarTa is IMO considerably Better than the NarBa.

Having two Small Air Inlets so close to the Coil seems to produce a Denser and more Flavor Saturated Vapor coming of the Coil.

And you are Right about the Fill Hole. It would probably be a PITA to fill without using a Luer-Lock blunt needle tip. That, or a Very Narrow Unicorn Bottle tip.

 

[icebat]

About the NarBa.

@icebat the drip tip upflow ceased to be an issue when I switched to a little wider and taller drip tip, although I also switched to plain cotton which doesn't saturate the wick quite as much as Fiber Freaks did (50/50 liquids here). People using less viscose higher VG liquid or more energetic coil builds than my 1 ohm one shouldn't experience the upflow.

Thinning the wick tails more should also help. I also left them fairly long, just of a few mm off the bottom, and can vape the tank spotless clean without issues.

The AFC works well from medium tight to very tight (even with a wider DT) and I find the flavour to be very good albeit a notch below Doggy Style with its tiny bell-shaped chamber and narrow chimney.

One more thing, to fill it's best to use needletip at least 1cm long if the tip's base is tapered, or 2cm long if flat. With the coil post obstructing access to fill hole the common plastic bottles with a 1cm tip on a flat base don't reach deep enough inside the tank and things may get a little messy.

@zoiDman, the NarTa has much better flavour than NarBa? Fascinating! Apart from the NarTa having airflow from two sides they seem so similar in other aspects. The fill hole is located much deeper in the NarTa so a long needletip will be an absolute necessity.

Thanks so much for the follow up. I might skip it based on the bold above. Maybe I'll give it a try at some point, but I think I'll hold off for now.

 

[rifky]

Thanks so much for the follow up. I might skip it based on the bold above. Maybe I'll give it a try at some point, but I think I'll hold off for now.

The Narba has arrived. It have superb fit amd finish, very good atty. There is only one cons: the glass is very very fragile I mean it when I saying this. I am broke the original and two spare at the first time cleaning. I wonder is there a spareparts that fit enough and have a good quality to replace it?