Nasty video about cigarettes!

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TropicalBob

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Yuck. That was about two weeks of cigarettes for me when I smoked.

Good idea, Rockbassray. I don't think any of us can say with assurance what would be left. It might be a blob of oil! Or it might be nothing at all. The same test could tell us a good deal.

If Stephen King sneaked around that lab machine at night, he'd hear it say, "Feed me, feed me. Why don't you feed me? I need a hit."
 

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Yuck. That was about two weeks of cigarettes for me when I smoked.
That was 10 days for me :oops:

Well, TB, you are a pipe smoker, like me, so you see the tar inside your pipe everytime you clean it (really disgusting experience for novice pipe smokers, but you get used to it...), we see it and go on smoking.... aghhh! :cry:
 

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Yes, I can. And I prefer filtered pipes from Brigham, Savenelli, Carey and others. So I see what the filters collect (but I don't inhale).

This video is inaccurate in one important way, however. The cigarettes are burned in a super-fast action, with the smoke bubbling through the water. No one smokes that way. Sidestream smoke while a smoker is not inhaling (that's most of the time) exits most of the tar. Second-hand smoke carries some (we see the blue-colored particulates in the smoke).

So we do not end up with a golf ball-sized blob of tar in our lungs every other week. In fact, disgusting as it is, smokers cough out much of what they do inhale, seen as black flecks in sputum.

A doctor once told me that if I stopped coughing, if I managed to kill my lungs' healthy response to irritants by overwhelming them, I would die soon after.
 

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Interesting TB. Yeah, I figured that huge clump of tar wasn't going directly into the lungs. We'd all be dead by now if that were the case. Plus it looked like it was going down into the filter too. It's still very disgusting!

I'm curious as to how much your lungs can heal up after you quit. My mom has been smoking for 41 years and I've been smoking for the past 14. When does it get to the "irreversible damage" stage? I've poked around google and haven't found anything but scare tactics from antis. I see all those images of smokers lungs vs. the normal pink ones and I wonder if mine will ever look like that. I guess all the coughing I've been doing is getting at least some of the gunk up :).
 

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After...
72 hours Breathing becomes easier. Bronchial tubes begin to relax and energy levels increase
1 month Skin appearance improves owing to improved skin perfusion
3–9 months Cough, wheezing, and breathing problems improve and lung function increases by up to 10%
1 year Risk of a heart attack falls to about half that of a smoker
10 years Risk of lung cancer falls to about half that of a smoker
15 years Risk of heart attack falls to the same level as someone who has never smoked

The Benefits of Stopping Smoking
 

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Just a side curiosity, Riddle80:

When I was growing up, a "miracle of science" was liquid so oxygenated that a human could breath when submerged in it totally. My thought at the time was that I'd panic completely if immersed in liquid. But it also spawned this thought: Why can't we "wash" smoker's lungs with such a liquid? Why can't we clean out the accumulated tars? Fill the lungs with liquid and bombard them with ultrasound to vibrate off clinging tar. The lung bath.

I've never found a reason why this couldn't work.
 
I'm curious as to how much your lungs can heal up after you quit.

That's an interesting discussion all on its own Riddle. Up until I quit using analogs, my lungs hurt whenever I took in a deep/semi-deep breath (which scared the crap out of me TBH, and was the main impetus for me switching over).

But just in a few short weeks, that has now completely disappeared which blew my mind - didn't think it would happen so quickly. So the lungs do have an ability to clean/heal themselves to an extent.

However I've also read about some long-time smokers who claim that their lungs were never the same again even after quitting for years. I think that's probably much worse in older age though when the body has less of an ability to heal itself. Quitting while young, clearly, is the smart thing to do.

PS: I know about those smoker lung pics on Google, really horrendous stuff - if that doesn't soil someone's pants to keep off the analogs, then nothing ever will. (Sure, these are probably the worst case scenarios being shown, but still...quite disturbing to see what's possible.)
 

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I've often thought we spend too many research dollars on finding causes and not enough on finding solutions and/or cures. A cause might require lifestyle modification; a cure requires nothing beyond treatment.

I'm not saying don't research causes, but far more value comes from researching corrections to problems that causes create.

I want cures. "Causes" are my history and I can't change history. :rolleyes:
 
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