Nearing disaster in New York - please take action NOW to prevent e-cigarette ban.

[zebbydog]

Lots of faxes winging their way from the UK

 

[jimho]

Looks like the bill was referred to the Codes committee- I believe their role is to review the penalties of violating the law - not much lobying we can do with them. Not sure if it goes back to the health committee after that or to the floor...

 

[ACM]

As I mentioned before, I have low expectations. But I did my part to help support our cause. We still have a senate to sway, so ...

 

[jimho]

As I mentioned before, I have low expectations. But I did my part to help support our cause. We still have a senate to sway, so ...

Still has to be voted on by the Assembly before it gets to the Senate... then it will go to the Senate health committee. I share your pessimism - particularly with the ASSembly, but we need to fight the ban part of it every step - givem an inch and they'll take a mile.

 

[ACM]

Well, pessimist or not, I am most definitely NOT a quitter (except when it comes to analogs!)

I'll keep emailing, snail mailing or faxing when I can, and I'll even very happily travel to Albany to join a physical protest, if anyone up there can organize such a thing. That would certainly draw attention to the issue: Get a good sized group of legal protestors (permits are probably necessary) to picket the NYS capitol building and we could get some beneficial, healthy media coverage to help get the message out.

Thoughts?

 

[DC2]

I'll even very happily travel to Albany to join a physical protest, if anyone up there can organize such a thing.

I'd certainly do that if I lived close enough, but San Diego is a bit too far.
But I always said I'd make my way to Washington DC if we ever got together a Million Vaper March.

 

[mano932]

nice a million vaperman March you can count me in.

 

[Tol]

They are probably getting sick of talking to me by now, oh well....They wanted these jobs

I would like to also nominate New York State for lamest state in our nation. I think California might be in the running with us for taxes and dumb laws enacted or smart ones voted down.
Please keep the pressure on folks, no matter where you are. This WILL come to your state at some point if they get it banned here.

 

[Aunt Lala]

I just wrote my assemblywoman and senator... and urge anyone in NY to do the same. Be nice, but tell them how you feel and what you think.

 

[pothole]

Inform them of the facts that were just on CBC news stating, "The US spends more on healthcare than any other nation yet has poor mortality rates due to smoking".

 

[yvilla]

New thread on "Next Steps" for NY ban bill:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ew-york-sales-ban-next-steps.html#post2558697

The same as new CASAA NY Call to Action page:

CASAA.org

 

[grandmato5]

I urge all to send those faxes. The legislatures rarely actually read the letters themelves but there are staff members whose job it is to read those faxes and send out responding correspondence even if it is a form letter and/or email. The legislators are given a tally of those for and against bills before votes along with a summary of the concerns expressed by their constituents who are against bills or why they are in favor of it. There are bills that the legislators are very well informed about and others, like this one, that most have absolutely NO personally information and knowledge of.

IF AT ALL POSSIBLE GET THAT FACE TO FACE MEETING with your legislator. Show them an e-cig and tell them what it really is and does. Extremely few of these legislators have the slightest idea what an electronic cigarette actually is or is not. Most only have the media information they may have heard or seen to go by. If that media information is all they have, it only makes sense they would vote to approve this measure. Best meeting is actually WITH the legislator BUT making a favorable impression on their staff about the importance of voting NO on this bill IS important because many legislators DO rely heavily on what their staff's recommendations are on bills they themselves have little information about.

 

[Slickstick]

We should all pitch in and start sending these people our spare kits and point them here for questions.. Maybe some will switch to vaping and that is one way they will learn about it. Many may not smoke but I am sure they have loved ones that do.

 

[Placebo Effect]

I urge all to send those faxes. The legislatures rarely actually read the letters themelves but there are staff members whose job it is to read those faxes and send out responding correspondence even if it is a form letter and/or email. The legislators are given a tally of those for and against bills before votes along with a summary of the concerns expressed by their constituents who are against bills or why they are in favor of it. There are bills that the legislators are very well informed about and others, like this one, that most have absolutely NO personally information and knowledge of.

IF AT ALL POSSIBLE GET THAT FACE TO FACE MEETING with your legislator. Show them an e-cig and tell them what it really is and does. Extremely few of these legislators have the slightest idea what an electronic cigarette actually is or is not. Most only have the media information they may have heard or seen to go by. If that media information is all they have, it only makes sense they would vote to approve this measure. Best meeting is actually WITH the legislator BUT making a favorable impression on their staff about the importance of voting NO on this bill IS important because many legislators DO rely heavily on what their staff's recommendations are on bills they themselves have little information about.

Have you spoken to your legislator yet?

 

[warbdan]

have you spoken to your legislator yet?

roflmfao!!!!

 

[Koman]

Ha ha ha, good one!

 

[Big Sheepherder]

NY Strategy: 1. Retain Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, or a firm of equal caliber if Cravath has a conflict or is otherwise unwilling; 2. Have the firm write a position memorandum for industry and public consumption; 3. Have the firm inform the necessary legislators and executive of preparations for a Declaratory Judgment Action and Motion for Preliminary and Permanent Injunctions. 4. Proceed to litigation if necessary.

 

[Little Girl]

I don't fully understand all of that , but I'm pretty sure you're saying that electronic cigarettes should get themselves a lawyer and get that lawyer to carve them a legitimate place for themselves once and for all.

If so, I'm all for it, and I'd be happy to assist in lining the lawyer's pocket to see that it happens.

 

[Placebo Effect]

NY Strategy: 1. Retain Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP, or a firm of equal caliber if Cravath has a conflict or is otherwise unwilling; 2. Have the firm write a position memorandum for industry and public consumption; 3. Have the firm inform the necessary legislators and executive of preparations for a Declaratory Judgment Action and Motion for Preliminary and Permanent Injunctions. 4. Proceed to litigation if necessary.

I know you're not interested in providing us services, but can you give a three-sentence explanation of what the basis for our preliminary injunction would be?