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ned Zeppelin

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Well so far this has been a complete waste of money I have been puffing away the last two hours having two batteries to battle with. As for the smoke sometimes it's great and sometimes it's not. So it does not seem to be consistent. One of my batteries I think might be faulty after three seconds on the drag the light goes out battery number two doesn't do that. But both batteries seem to flicker quite a big and after well under two hours the batteries are now on charge again admittedly I have been giving it a hammering. Started using it about 12.40 and they packed up around 2 o'clock
Sometimes you might get a bit of kick but most of the time it's like puffing air. Regarding the taste there isn't really one at all. I don't really know how to explain this for example If your E. cigarette is in your mouth and try to suck the taste around your mouth the nearest I would say it is like warm paper type taste not burning but more warm tasting effect. anyway. I find to get it brewing up you do have to prime it for a while. It tends to work better when the atomiser is quite warm and by the way it does get warm.
If you're the sort of smoker that gets your cigarette tips wet with your lips. I don't normally .it won't suit you .the paper surrounding the atomiser when damp does start to peel a bit. But that might be a good thing if you can put some liquid in. Behind the paper is basically just a steel barrel and on the top of the tip is a round plastic cap with a whole you dragg through.
I've taken off the paper off one atomiser cartridge to see what is underneath without destroying it with my garden shears so behind there like I said is the plain steel barrel with plastic cap. First you see is a round sponge or paper material which looks a greyish colour with a whole in the middle with some sort of wire their. The actual sponge isn't completely dry but not greatly moist so whether you could drip down their successfully not too sure
I did try putting a few drops down their with your normal dropper bottle but does not seem to soak very quickly at all. When dragging on it with liquid in their as you drag it tends to do some popping around and then ends up in your mouth sometimes can be a little warm to so whether we could soak your favourite liquid you like or smoke it for a while to dry out the sponge and then drip it don't know as yet too early to say.
So folks it's been a little disappointing so far whether this will improve with further investigations who knows I do think that these batteries aren't too clever well especially the one. But the funny thing when I first put them on charge the one looked charged but it wasn't a total green more like yellow type colour on the charger and then became green after four hours the other battery which I already originally had showed red at the start of the charge then turned green after four hours. But both these batteries do tend to flicker quite a bit. So after spending over £100 plus screwing me to have more cartridges so I get my missing goods shipped I think it is absolutely atrocious so whether they have returns policy I do not know but saying that it will properly cost me £30 plus to ship back so it looks like I've ended up with a lemon.
If I do get any good results out of this I will sure let you all know. We will see what the next few days hold. Less hope our kissbox and our replacement sedansa turns up soon.
Perhaps this might be ideal for smokers that love low tar cigarettes without any clout. To them it might be just the trick. But never mind I have my pen style from the smokester here right now which so far has been doing okay but I better not speak too soon.
Before anybody asks I did try three other cartridges to see if that would make a difference but that did not make any difference to. I also tried these because some people are saying that they have changed their tobacco flavoured cartridges. Mine seemed all the same. On the box of 50 there is a date on the back which I think says 2008. 04. 01. Which don't read too fresh to me but saying in the handbook it state that cartridges have a life of 24 months. I also already had 20 other cartridges which I received two weeks ago and tried them to no difference. Anyway I'm sorry to bore you all any we will have to see how it all goes.
Update while I have been writing this I have been charging up the batteries when I first put them onto charge they were both red now the funny thing is it that they are both reading and that yellow colour so I presuming the next stage is green.
So guys and girls my advice at the moment it is to save you money on this product till they get this technology right. It will probably be perfect for most of us long as we get good cartridge life good taste and certainly a bit more kick.:evil::evil
 
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I'm sorry for the long wait folks but I did want to charge the batteries up for at least eight hours as when I actually found in the manual it did state the first initial charge for eight hours and they are on between three and four hours but I do think this product should have


Warning this product could seriously damage your bank balance.
 

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sounds liek hte batteries weren't quite fulyl charged- especially the intermittent vapor consistency part- that's what happens with batteries that are abotu drained- sometimes you get good vapor, then hte next isn't so great, and the next is good again- I'm not dsaying that is the case, perhaps hte batteries are not good, or perhaps the whole systems just isn't that great and consistent, I don't know. I think the standard initial charge o nthe batteries is supposed to be around 8 dtrasight hours- but soem think lithium batteries don't need that initial long charge after hte charger light goes green. Who knows.

Mark your bad battery with a spot of tape or something, charge it overnight, and see if it works better tomorrow, if not get right on email to them tell them the battery is a lemon. Oh & someone said that you shoudl leave hte batteries in for awhile after hte light turns green as they haven't got quite htier full charge yet- abotu 80% charged, so try this too- leave it in an hour longer or so, see if htat makes a difference.

Taste isn't great, huh? Is it better than hte original burnt papaer taste that Miss Dianne spoke of at least? Seems form your description it might be better. I think a good tasting smoking juice dripped in through the mouth end onto the inner cotton might make a differnce- just guessign htough.

The other hting abotu adding juice is that you can up the nicotine content too, so it might give a bit more boost to hte 'kick- worth a try anyways. Their cartridges are only 8 mg nicotine- not very high at all- I've seen some 'low' nic content cartridges listed at 11 mg ( maybe it was medium)

Please keep us updated as you can, we're all quite interested in objective reviews of this
 

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Cannot read that. Break the text up and don't bold anything except for emphasis.

I'm sorry t Bob it's just that it is getting very late in the UK and my eyesight is not too great as I only have reasonable vision in one eye and I also have
keratoconus which one of the symptoms is having reasonable vision one minute and can go blurred the next and also I'm probably not as an illiterate as your great self. I'm just a musician after all. I do also have to enlarge my fonts .screen. Etc due to my disabilities I am sorry if I have caused you any inconvenience.
 

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sorry- one last question- when it did produce good vapor, was it a good thick cloud of vapor?

also you mentioend hte battery light blinking- that was one hting I noticed in Mixos' vids, that the drag seemed to be really short before hte light went on, and it seemed to blink at odd times too, even blinked once hwen he picked it up off table which I thought was kinda odd. I think maybe htere really might be soemthign wrong with htose batteries- their site says it's a 'new technology' for hte batteries- whatevewr that is suppsoed to mean, but whatever they have tried with htweir batteries, I htink it's failing , kinda like hte Sendansa 'long life' batteries- I think tryign ot make long life batteries screws them up

Woudl be interesting to see how other batteries woudl work on these loongs- it might just make htem a true powerhouse smoker if good batteries were used.

Also, keep us posted on how long a cartridge will produce vapor, if you wouldn't mind- would be nice ot have second opinion on this- just for references sake- Would be interesting to have actual puff counts, but that's a major pain in the can to do- especially if does indeed go two days. But just a general guide on cart lasting length woudl be very helpful as well
 

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and I also have
keratoconus which one of the symptoms is having reasonable vision one minute and can go blurred the next and also I'm probably not as an illiterate as your great self. I'm just a musician after all.

Is that what that's called? Hmm- that's what happens to me- eyesight goes all over hte place- one second reading ok, then blurry, IO refocuss by moving head back, then it's ok, then blurrs again- Do you have Fibromyalgia by any chance? I've got it and read that the eyesight can be affected liek htis, but never knew what hte clinical name for hte blurring was- SAorry- bit off topic-
 

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Is that what that's called? Hmm- that's what happens to me- eyesight goes all over hte place- one second reading ok, then blurry, IO refocuss by moving head back, then it's ok, then blurrs again- Do you have Fibromyalgia by any chance? I've got it and read that the eyesight can be affected liek htis, but never knew what hte clinical name for hte blurring was- SAorry- bit off topic-

I don't know if I have Fibromyalgia I only found out that I had this condition six months ago. I have had bad eyesight all my life going into hospitals from the age of four till now as well as
keratoconus I have slow working muscles in the eyes which causes them to not look straight drift off which I do find embarrassing when you're looking at some body and the one eye is looking somewhere else. Apparently keratoconus was not discovered when I was younger all they did not know much about this condition which I have been told I could have had this as a teenager but now I'm in my mid-40s it's something that you have to live with but when you don't know anything different you get used to it.
 

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Well it kinda fits here too as I think you said you're thinkign of beign a reseller? But yeah, maybe this should be moved to general section too

I don't htink I have that keratoconus as my eyes don't drift, but the muscles are weak fro mthe fibromyalgia and I've also got Mitchondrial dysfunction which causes weak muscles because htey can't get hte energy they need due to energy utilization problems in the mitochondria which causes weak muscles- including hte eyes- but yeah, the goign in and out of focus is a major pain- causes eye strain affter awhile
 
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Well it kinda fits here too as I think you said you're thinkign of beign a reseller? But yeah, maybe this should be moved to general section too

I don't htink I have that keratoconus as my eyes don't drift, but the muscles are weak fro mthe fibromyalgia and I've also got Mitchondrial dysfunction which causes weak muscles because htey can't get hte energy they need due to energy utilization problems in the mitochondria which causes weak muscles- including hte eyes- but yeah, the goign in and out of focus is a major pain- causes eye strain affter awhile

Because my eyes drift that has nothing to do with
keratoconus. Drifting of my eyes
is a separate condition and has nothing to do with keratoconus my optician informs me
 

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wheeling back on topic, Ned, I think the jury might still be out on your batteries. You have to charge the suckers fully before you can reliably praise or damn the device. In your defence, I don't know any way round the problem of 'itching to play with it' vs 'give it a fair crack by fully preparing it'

Hope i'm right and the batteries spring to mighty life.

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wheeling back on topic, Ned, I think the jury might still be out on your batteries. You have to charge the suckers fully before you can reliably praise or damn the device. In your defence, I don't know any way round the problem of 'itching to play with it' vs 'give it a fair crack by fully preparing it'

Hope i'm right and the batteries spring to mighty life.

Emp

Good afternoon emp
The first time I charged both batteries up they were on for just over eight hours. The second charge have been on for 10 hours. I don't understand where everybodys comments are coming from regarding me not charging the batteries up for not long enough. And yes the batteries are still performing the same as the first charge. One of them that is all right and the other after three seconds drag cuts off. But they aren't lasting very long the worse batteries compared to my other electronic cigarettes
So I have never charged for less than eight hours and also tried doing 10.
 

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Sorry Ned, might not have been paying full attention. Sounds like you're going to find out what their returns policy is like.

Good luck

Emp

Haven't got a clue what to do at the moment emp.
I think for somebody who smokes low tar cigarettes without the kick would be quite comfortable with L. T.
 

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Well, you've done us a service, Ned. I was teetering on the brink there. Only the China slow boat stopped me jumping in.

Emp

Well emp shipping really only took about three days which ain't bad really. You do tend to get some delay once you've ordered and paid. It Takes them a couple of days to ship before they e-mail you confirming they've just sent it then it comes by air. But instead of coming in a box basically your cigarette boxes and cartridges are just wrapped up in bubble wrap and then in a TNT bag and considering we ordered our 2 kissbox units last Monday and they are at the moment in mid ship mode so we are hoping they will be landing on the door at any moment.
 
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