Need A Little Help With Nic!

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Marcel K

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Hey To Start Off i Have Used This Forum Alot Lately And Just Today i Singed Up Love It!

But Lets Get To The Point iv Vaped Almost A Year Know i Started Off From 24 mg / 10 ml
i Still Do The Problem Is i vape 3 ml 3 Times A Day I Go Trough 1 tank In About 30 mins To And Hour Usually At Night i Tend To Settle Down A Bit Cause i'm More Focused On Games.

And The Problem Is ? i Think i OD Everyday And It Doesn't Set Me Back i Still vape It Maybe A Little Less When i Fell Nausea But i Still Do It Haven't Vomited Yet Thanks GOD.

Any Help Really Need It , ? i Am Probably Really Addicted Am i?
 

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Hey To Start Off i Have Used This Forum Alot Lately And Just Today i Singed Up Love It!

But Lets Get To The Point iv Vaped Almost A Year Know i Started Off From 24 mg / 10 ml
i Still Do The Problem Is i Vape 3 ml 3 Times A Day I Go Trough 1 Tank In About 30 mins To And Hour Usually At Night i Tend To Settle Down A Bit Cause i'm More Focused On Games.

And The Problem Is ? i Think i OD Everyday And It Doesn't Set Me Back i Still Vape It Maybe A Little Less When i Fell Nausea But i Still Do It Haven't Vomited Yet Thanks GOD.

Any Help Really Need It , ? i Am Probably Really Addicted Am i?
I tend to chain vape. It happens.
Signs of nic overdose are lightheadedness, queasiness, feeling like gravity is really pulling you down, sometimes hiccups. It usually goes away after about 20 minutes for most people. It is hard to overdose enough on nic to have lasting negative affects from it because it quickly makes you sick.
Consider this: maybe you're addicted more to the hand to mouth habit more than the nicotine.
Try decreasing your nicotine to 18mg per ml or .18% (same thing) and vape as much as you want. If you're still getting sick, take it down to 12mg.
 

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Hey To Start Off i Have Used This Forum Alot Lately And Just Today i Singed Up Love It!

But Lets Get To The Point iv Vaped Almost A Year Know i Started Off From 24 mg / 10 ml
i Still Do The Problem Is i Vape 3 ml 3 Times A Day I Go Trough 1 Tank In About 30 mins To And Hour Usually At Night i Tend To Settle Down A Bit Cause i'm More Focused On Games.

And The Problem Is ? i Think i OD Everyday And It Doesn't Set Me Back i Still Vape It Maybe A Little Less When i Fell Nausea But i Still Do It Haven't Vomited Yet Thanks GOD.

Any Help Really Need It , ? i Am Probably Really Addicted Am i?

hi and welcome,
How long did you smoke cigarettes and how many per day?
What device(s) are you using? At what power levels?

My nicotine level is set to allow me to vape as much as I want and not get nic sick.
As my devices became more efficient, I lowered my nicotine level.

Cheers
I
 

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what kind of set up are you using? When I first started years ago I had the same issue. I vaped 18mg and it was so much I made myself sick. back then I had a simple pen style device that didnt deliver much. I sadly went back to smoking for a few months (smoking was killing my lungs) so i came back to vaping. Straight out of the gate I bought the vaporesso revenger mini and use a .5ohm ceramic coil and got myself some 6mg juice as I thought it would be a good starting point. Now I am realizing I need 3mg because with the better device that level is too strong.

Basically, what I am saying here is you sound like a flavor chaser and someone who enjoys vaping alot,like me. So, I suggest getting a better set up and dropping down to 3mg and vape away. You will not get sick when vaping as much as you are now and better set ups means the nicotine gets to you better. Not to mention lower nicotine levels mean better flavor. At 6mg I can tell when I have had enough because I will start to get a headache or feel jittery. It is hard to know when to cut yourself off, unlike cigarettes, when they are burned down they are tossed. vaping you can just keep going and not realize it until you are sick. So yeah, get a much lower nic and a good set up and I promise your experience will change for the better. Good luck!
 

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what kind of set up are you using? When I first started years ago I had the same issue. I vaped 18mg and it was so much I made myself sick. back then I had a simple pen style device that didnt deliver much. I sadly went back to smoking for a few months (smoking was killing my lungs) so i came back to vaping. Straight out of the gate I bought the vaporesso revenger mini and use a .5ohm ceramic coil and got myself some 6mg juice as I thought it would be a good starting point. Now I am realizing I need 3mg because with the better device that level is too strong.

Basically, what I am saying here is you sound like a flavor chaser and someone who enjoys vaping alot,like me. So, I suggest getting a better set up and dropping down to 3mg and vape away. You will not get sick when vaping as much as you are now and better set ups means the nicotine gets to you better. Not to mention lower nicotine levels mean better flavor. At 6mg I can tell when I have had enough because I will start to get a headache or feel jittery. It is hard to know when to cut yourself off, unlike cigarettes, when they are burned down they are tossed. vaping you can just keep going and not realize it until you are sick. So yeah, get a much lower nic and a good set up and I promise your experience will change for the better. Good luck!

Hey , Im using a KOOPOR Primus 300w i vape at 40.5 with a big baby beast 0.15ohm
 

Marcel K

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hi and welcome,
How long did you smoke cigarettes and how many per day?
What device(s) are you using? At what power levels?

My nicotine level is set to allow me to vape as much as I want and not get nic sick.
As my devices became more efficient, I lowered my nicotine level.

Cheers
I
i did not smoke cigarretes at all but i got some second hand somke from friends
Im using a
KOOPOR Primus 300w
i vape at 40.5
big baby beast 0.15ohm
 

Marcel K

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I tend to chain vape. It happens.
Signs of nic overdose are lightheadedness, queasiness, feeling like gravity is really pulling you down, sometimes hiccups. It usually goes away after about 20 minutes for most people. It is hard to overdose enough on nic to have lasting negative affects from it because it quickly makes you sick.
Consider this: maybe you're addicted more to the hand to mouth habit more than the nicotine.
Try decreasing your nicotine to 18mg per ml or .18% (same thing) and vape as much as you want. If you're still getting sick, take it down to 12mg.
Thanks
 

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Hey , Im using a KOOPOR Primus 300w i vape at 40.5 with a big baby beast 0.15ohm
Problem solved, cut down your nicotine, probably 6mg would be good for you. Guess it depends on how hard you hit it though; if you're getting a lot of vapor go low nic, if it's just a little vapor with the airflow partly or mostly closed, smaller puffs, you could maybe do over 6mg...
 

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Problem solved, cut down your nicotine, probably 6mg would be good for you. Guess it depends on how hard you hit it though; if you're getting a lot of vapor go low nic, if it's just a little vapor with the airflow partly or mostly closed, smaller puffs, you could maybe do over 6mg...
the thing is that i wont feel the TH i get alot of vapor like alot and 3/4 closed or am i miss understanding here yeah i think i am ? 6mg is in 1ml and 24mg is in 10ml stupid me thanks for helping me realise my stupidity , is there any way i can thank you?
 

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Hi Marcel,

I am not quite understanding the calculations you are making for your nic. May I please ask in what country you are living and what country your nic juice comes from? And may I please see a clear picture of the label data on your bottle?

It's important to get your info correct to best help you. I have the same coil and atty, which leads me to the question how are you inhaling? Can you describe your action please? How long do you inhale and how do you exhale? Also I have found that it's a major juice hog. Not called a beast for no reason!

Also, have you tried lowering your nic levels at night?

Hope you find a solution soon as your situation sounds perfectly awful and not like happy vaping!
 

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oh wow! I think I would die at 18mg. You really need a lower nicotine. If you enjoy the throat hit from the nicotine, but dont want to be sick. I think you should try different juice flavors. Things like rootbeer float or some tobbaco flavors can give a really strong throat hit just from the flavor itself.
 

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the thing is that i wont feel the TH i get alot of vapor like alot and 3/4 closed or am i miss understanding here yeah i think i am ? 6mg is in 1ml and 24mg is in 10ml stupid me thanks for helping me realise my stupidity , is there any way i can thank you?
Welcome and glad you joined.
Might like to read:
How to Pick Perfect Nicotine Level for Vaping
 

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Higher pg liquid will give more throat hit, but will also run through your coils and leak more. I have problems with anything over 30% pg.
@Marcel K maybe you should try a setup made for mouth to lung vaping, little puffs instead of big clouds, at 18 tp 24 mg nic. You could use high nic mtl setup to get your fix and if you have the urge to keep vaping, pick up your low nic big cloud setup.
I personally want almost no throat hit but kind of simulate it with pretty warm vapor and big lungfulls, that satisfies me more than any throat hit from the liquid.
As said above, there are some flavors that seem to have more throat hit just due to the flavoring.
When I was quitting the juice that I liked the most because it was more like smoking was a 12mg chai tea latte from mountain oak vapors. Nice throat hit. I think they have since modified the recipe and it is creamier than it used to be.
Vape wild has a flavor called dragon warrior (which I was obligated to try based on my love of the classic video game) and even with 3mg nic I could not vape it, very harsh on my throat and lungs, thought they might have given me wrong nic level but someone else said green tea (which was a large part of the flavor) always did that to them...
 

Marcel K

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Hi Marcel,

I am not quite understanding the calculations you are making for your nic. May I please ask in what country you are living and what country your nic juice comes from? And may I please see a clear picture of the label data on your bottle?

It's important to get your info correct to best help you. I have the same coil and atty, which leads me to the question how are you inhaling? Can you describe your action please? How long do you inhale and how do you exhale? Also I have found that it's a major juice hog. Not called a beast for no reason!

Also, have you tried lowering your nic levels at night?

Hope you find a solution soon as your situation sounds perfectly awful and not like happy vaping!
i bought this bottle on ebay it clearly says 24mg/10ml so thats 2,4mg per 1ml its 50VG 50PG Flavour Bubble gum im inhaling into my mouth for like 4-3 sec and inhale then exhale trough my nose i also hold i in for 5 sec , havent tried lowering it
 
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Higher pg liquid will give more throat hit, but will also run through your coils and leak more. I have problems with anything over 30% pg.
@Marcel K maybe you should try a setup made for mouth to lung vaping, little puffs instead of big clouds, at 18 tp 24 mg nic. You could use high nic mtl setup to get your fix and if you have the urge to keep vaping, pick up your low nic big cloud setup.
I personally want almost no throat hit but kind of simulate it with pretty warm vapor and big lungfulls, that satisfies me more than any throat hit from the liquid.
As said above, there are some flavors that seem to have more throat hit just due to the flavoring.
When I was quitting the juice that I liked the most because it was more like smoking was a 12mg chai tea latte from mountain oak vapors. Nice throat hit. I think they have since modified the recipe and it is creamier than it used to be.
Vape wild has a flavor called dragon warrior (which I was obligated to try based on my love of the classic video game) and even with 3mg nic I could not vape it, very harsh on my throat and lungs, thought they might have given me wrong nic level but someone else said green tea (which was a large part of the flavor) always did that to them...
i use bubble gum with 2,4mg it says 24mg/10ml so thats where i get it from and i use 50/50 VG PG And I Almost Have No Leaking is setting it up 2 more watts better and take smaller puffs?
 
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i use bubble gum with 2,4mg it says 24mg/10ml so thats where i get it from and i use 50/50 VG PG And I Almost Have No Leaking is setting it up 2 more watts better and take smaller puffs?
Try not to concentrate on the exact amount of nic per milliliter you are vaping, it's not as important as long as you know the higher the percent the stronger it is. As far as what wattage and how much airflow to vape at, it's all up to you and what you like or want to get out of it, but I do have a couple rules of thumb.
With wattage always start low and work your way up slowly until it gets warmer than you like or you just don't want that much vapor.
Half of vaping seems to be about finding the right mix of airflow and temperature to get just the feel and flavor you want.
If it gets too hot (the vapor), open up the airflow more, or turn down the watts. The air cools down the vapor and the coils.
The warmer the vape is, as an example when you are increasing wattage, generally the shorter the hit you want to take. Not a weaker puff but a faster harder inhale to quickly fill more of your lungs. A typical "puff" for me is 2 seconds but it's like a deep breath, airflow all the way open and warm big cloud.
If the flavor is not strong enough or the vape just too light and airy, reduce the airflow, or increase wattage. That will make the vapor denser and warmer.
- The more vapor being inhaled, the more nicotine you will be getting. A small cigalike will use high nicotine like 24mg but you only get a small amount at a time. A subohm tank used at high wattage , sometimes not very high wattage,puts out a lot of vapor at once so most people would typically use 3mg nic liquid.
 

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Hmmm..I agree that you should try lowering nic when you are relaxing and chain vaping. Are you using the 4 or 8 coil bbb? Maybe try setting watts at low end of the recommended sweet spot range, focus to on long slow gentle inhales and exhale through your nose at the start of a session and consciously listen to your body for that ahhhhhh! Feeling from dopamine expression then drop down back to your preferred setting and style with low or no nic. I keep a different tank so it's easy to change the topper back and forth depending on my needs. Hth
 
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