Need a Strong 5 volt Manual Sealed Battery for KR808D-1 Coolcarts

[costeve]

I need a strong 5 volt Manual Sealed Battery to use with Coolcarts, that will give me the same kind of strength and flavor intensity as my Manual Passthru for at least 30 minutes to 1 hour of vaping, before the flavor and intensity starts getting weak.

The Coolcarts are probably about 3.0 to 3.2 ohms. The juice I’m using is VG 60% PG 40%.
Its very thick juice.

I’ve been using a KR808D-1 XL Manual Sealed Battery (3.7 volt) with Coolcarts.
The intensity of the flavor is not nearly as strong as using my 5 volt Manual Passthru.
On my fully charged KR808D-1 XL Manual Battery, The first 5-10 minutes of vaping,
the flavor and intensity is ok, but still not nearly as strong as the Passthru.
Then, After vaping 5-10 minutes, the intensity and flavor gets even weaker.
I’d say the intensity and flavor is reduced at least 50%. Its pretty weak.

I can’t take a passthru with me to use at work, so I need to get a stronger Battery – I guess at least 5 volts, that will give me the same kind of flavor and intensity of a Passthru for at least 30 minutes, preferably - 1 hour of vaping. At work, I usually vape 4 or 5 times - for about 5 minutes each time.


I haven’t seen or heard of any KR808D-1 Manual 5 volt Batteries. Does anybody sell one?
Can I buy a non- KR808D-1 Battery that’s 5 volts and use an adapter so I can screw on KR808D-1 Coolcarts?

I would like to just use a bigger Battery with the Coolcarts so I don’t have to mess with a separate atty and cart like you have to do with Joye. I’ve also read that the Joye separate atty and carts have a lot of leak problems, and also the Joye Battery is not a sealed Battery, to keep juice from getting into the Battery.

Also, I think the Joye 510 Battery is also only 3.7 volt just like my XL Manual Sealed Battery.
So I don’t see how the Joye 510 would give any stronger intensity and flavor than my XL Manual Sealed Battery.
My XL Manual Sealed Battery is 380 mah. I don’t know how many mah the Joye 510 Battery.

I think Firefly13 said in another post somewhere that they used a 6 volt Battery volt with Coolcarts. I’ve never heard of a 6 volt Battery.

I’m not all that knowledgeable about Batteries. The XL Manual Sealed Battery (3.7 volt)
Is the only Battery I’ve ever used. I don’t know much about other batteries.

I’ve heard of other models like the Joye, Riva, Reo, Boge Leo. But I think they all use a separate atty and cart instead of just the cart like the KR808D-1.

So what I’m looking for is a strong 5 volt Manual Sealed Battery that I can use Cool Carts with, that will give me 30 minutes to 1 hour of good, strong, vaping before it starts to get a lot weaker.

Thanks for any ideas.

 

[newboy]

the voltage for a battery is dependent upon the chemistry of the battery. So a lead-acid like you will have in your car produces 2V per cell (they link 6 cells to get the 12V).

I believe your only option is to link in series batteries to bring the voltage up to what you want, or a higher voltage (i.e. 9V), and use a circuit to drop the voltage down.

 

[Princessdee]

It's gonna have to be a mod. They don't make 5V batteries that look like the 808. Either a box mod or what I call a "pipe bomb" mod.
I personally use a 6V box mod.
Thee's a list of mods and I've been looking for it all morning. I'll post if I find it.
Be prepared to spend some money if you don't wanna build it yourself. They can run over $100. They can also be had for MUCH less, it depends on the look you're comfortable with.
If they don't come with an 808 fitting (most don't) an adapter is not expensive here Adapters or here PV Adapters both have reasonable shipping.

Still looking for that link. In the meantime, I think He will make you a non-feeder if you want, but he's out of commission right now to recover from a medical problem. It won't be to long, tho. VERY reasonable price. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modder-accessories-supplier-forum/143825-big-stus-box-mods-5-volt-illuminated-bottomfeeder-sale-5.html#post2446182

Here is a BEAUTIFUL wooden box at a "steal" price http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modder-accessories-supplier-forum/133233-bahnzos-box-mods-hardwood-box-mods-more.html

 

[Princessdee]

Found it.
Best e-Cig Mod List | e-Cig Mods Database

Hit "tube" "box" whatever you're looking for across the tabs at the top. Some re not included in this list, but you'll be able to see lots of them and the price ranges for the type you like.
Hope that helps

 

[Travis798]

How many threads are you going to start on this? This is at least the 3rd one that I've seen...

 

[costeve]

Travis, I've spent 3 days searching the forum history, checking out vendors, trying to find specs and get some kind of idea on how to solve my weak flavor problem. I now think that its probably not a higher volt battery I need like a 5 volt, but simply a 3.7 volt sealed manual battery with more amps - like 650 or 900 mah to use with a lo res cartomizer 2 ohm.

The modders apparently do not agree - they only want to sell me a 5 volt mod. Maybe they're right, but I don't have a lot money - so I'm trying to find the most economical quality gear to get consistent solid flavor.

Let me rephrase my problem: I think I need a Need a 650 or 900 mah battery and lo res atty to solve my weak flavor problem.
Since I may have to go with a non KR808 Battery to solve this problem - I'm also going to have to do a post in the Joye ego section. That will be my last hope. Maybe someone there can help me.
Maybe I'll have to get an Ego 900 mah battery and buy a connector so I can use 808 lo res 2 ohm cartomizers on it (I'd rather use an 808 cart instead of a separate atty and cart); if that's possible. I'm new at this and i'm going thru a big learning curve trying to figure this out.

Here's the problem restated, hopefully a little more accurately:

I’ve been using a KR808D-1 XL Manual Sealed Battery (3.7 volt 380 mah) with KR808D-1 hi res Coolcarts 3.0-3.2 ohms.
The problem is the Flavor intensity is faint, weak after just two - 3 minute vapes on a fully charged battery.
From reading thru the forum – it looks like I need lo res carts about 2.0 ohm on a 650 mah battery to get good Flavor.

Lite Cig has KR808D-1 lo res 2 ohm carts – it says to use them on at least a 450 mah battery.
My current battery is only 380 mah – so I need to get a bigger mah battery.
Is there a bigger mah KR808D-1 Manual sealed battery?

I would like to use 1 piece KR808D-1 lo res cartomizers instead of a separate atty and cart.
So if there isn’t a 600 mah KR808D-1 manual sealed battery and I have to get an ego battery , I will need to get an adapter to use KR808D-1 cartomizers on it. I haven’t been able to find an adapter yet. Is there one?

I’m doing this so I can get really good Flavor. I’m using really great eliquid – putting about 30 drops in the hi res cart, but after the first 5 minutes of vape, almost just like like vaping smoke or dry air. Flavor is very weak. Not enough to keep me off analogs.

I don’t care about getting tons of vapor – all I need is to find out what I need to get good, strong Flavor. Some people call it “hitting the sweet spot.”

The 5v passthru I use at home with hi res cool carts does give me the strong flavor. but i can't take them to work with me.
Any suggestions.
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[MsOceanCity]

Have u looked into a fat batt? The Pigcig and Elegant Easy (650 and 750mah, respectively) are kr808 threaded. Elegant also has an XXL that's 1300mah. I'm actually having a similar problem with some of my juices but was under the impression that more mah just translated into longer batt life and didn't really affect the intensity of the flavor? IDK

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Have u looked into a fat batt? The Pigcig and Elegant Easy (650 and 750mah, respectively) are kr808 threaded. Elegant also has an XXL that's 1300mah. I'm actually having a similar problem with some of my juices but was under the impression that more mah just translated into longer batt life and didn't really affect the intensity of the flavor? IDK

He's not talking about just getting a battery with a longer life. He's talking about voltage.

costeve, the modders aren't just trying to sell you a 5V mod. If you want to move up to a higher voltage without using a PT, then your only choice IS a mod.

Here's an article you will definitely want to read:

The Wonderful World of Mods

This will help you figure out what you're looking for. It worked for me!

 

[cosmic charlie]

The indulgence from eastmall has "caps" to accommodate several atty's it has an optional extended cup for 6v and a 5v pt I have had one since november and my egos are feeling neglected. Just my .02¢ it is not perfect but I felt the options were worth the investment. Still trying out all the different set-ups myself

 

[caged]

You can get a variable voltage Infinity with a 901 thread from notcigs.com for about $100 (including batteries and maybe a charger). It looks ok but really could use a cone and I'm not sure how well it works with KR8 cartomizers.

 

[Firefly13]

You can get a variable voltage Infinity with a 901 thread from notcigs.com for about $100 (including batteries and maybe a charger). It looks ok but really could use a cone and I'm not sure how well it works with KR8 cartomizers.

It doesn't work with 808 cartos, but a 99 cent 901-808 adapter from Good Prophets can fix that.

 

[caged]

It doesn't work with 808 cartos, but a 99 cent 901-808 adapter from Good Prophets can fix that.

99 cents plus shipping......

Still tempting. I really want to use my Bloog cartos on pass through voltage everywhere I go.

 

[OMG!]

I had a similar request and was told to buy a PigCig. My manual KR808D is fine, but it's not as strong as the PT. I am looking for the same performance in a manual. Is the PigCig really what I'm looking for? It's not that I need the battery to last longer.. I need it to be more powerful.

Make sense?

 

[Firefly13]

I had a similar request and was told to buy a PigCig. My manual KR808D is fine, but it's not as strong as the PT. I am looking for the same performance in a manual. Is the PigCig really what I'm looking for? It's not that I need the battery to last longer.. I need it to be more powerful.

Make sense?

You're not going to get that kinda power in a regular battery, only something bigger or a mod. You'd prolly get close to a passthrough power with a Pigcig if you used low resistance cartomizers.

 

[juicejunky]

All my V4L XLs measure 4.2 coming off the battery (I have 4) and they are better than the V2 standards at 3.8 (I have 5) off the battery with CoolCarts. Not quite PassThru voltage, but still better. I'm a big Boge 3.0/CoolCart blanks for the PT fan. I think lower resistance carts like V4L WOWs are better on batteries if you want to match the vape.


I'll be watching this thread, because I too would like to find one. Egos are only 3.2 and I think I read PigCigs match the thread but are missing the holes so you need an adapter with holes. Not sure what that would do to the resistance.

 

[OMG!]

The "resistance" argument is where I get lost. High/Low means nothing to me. I asked in the newbie forum and got two different answers. LOL

 

[FreakyStylie]

Volts X Volts / "resistance" (ohms) = watts (call it heat, like the coil on a heater or stove burner gets hot from the electricity flowing through it)
3.7v X 3.7v = 13.69 / 2.0 ohms = 6.85 watts
5v X 5v = 25 / 3.5 ohms = 7.14 watts
Two ways to get similar heat, but you need to be careful about what type of battery you use when you start dropping the resistance of the atomizer.

Before I bought my 5v mod, I just used a 5v PT. One at the computer, and another one in my car with an adapter. 5v for the majority of my vaping. I didn't want to mess around with the types of batteries/chance of ruining a battery with the wrong atty.

 

[brekehan]

I'm also a noob and I've also read in several places that in order to use a low resistance cartomizer, you need a battery with more available mAH or the battery can be damaged. Physics wise I'd think this is bull.... and they just want you to buy a better battery. Woudln't the battery just drain faster or is there any truth behind what they said?

We've seen several times in this post that watts = v^2 / ohms. I'd call that DRAW. Available would be watts = v * amps, would it not? I mean that's what I learned in physics.

Let's use my 380 mah battery on a 2 ohm cartomizer for example:

draw = 3.7^2 / 2 = 6.845 watts
available = 3.7 * 0.380 = 1.4060000000000001 watts?

There is no concept of time here either. Something's wrong.

 

[alisab]

Hi - my 2 cents: I think you can get what was just discribed above as (net) draw using a combination of 3.7 volt batts (your 808's) and a low res atty or carto. Meaning you may well get by and reach very closely to your goal by going this way. When you speak of Mahs I do believe that we are talking about duration not strength. It may be that LR uses up energy more quickly so that may be the reason that a higher Mah is suggested but the only other limit I have seen is to not go below 3.7 volts when using LR. Make sense?

 

[Uma]

what's a "coolcart" ?