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Discussion in 'Cloud Chasers' started by Coblew, Oct 5, 2016.

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  1. Coblew

    Coblew Full Member

    Oct 5, 2016
    So even tho the batteries said 35A and 2500mah they aren't?
     
  2. Coblew

    Coblew Full Member

    Oct 5, 2016
    And also the maximum wattage per single battery is 3xAmps? (roughly) Please correct if im wrong
     
  3. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    Voltage x Amperage = Wattage
     
  4. Coblew

    Coblew Full Member

    Oct 5, 2016
    Voltage of the cells?
     
  5. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    You're right, I ment the VTC4 and VTC5A.
    Sorry.
     
  6. Coblew

    Coblew Full Member

    Oct 5, 2016
    May just go for the TF- as i will be able to use straight away and if i ever do want to go to the dark side (RB(T)A's) i will do research and learn in advance not the day im about to purchase ;P
     
  7. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    Yes. In a regulated mod they are usually in series as it's more efficient to step down than to boost up.
    So series means you get double the voltage of the cells but the same capacity and amperage.
     
  8. Coblew

    Coblew Full Member

    Oct 5, 2016
    Also one of the coils is rated best at 120-180 i believe and although i may have a drop in flavor it just seems like too much hassle to me, i mean i'd love to learn but i dont know where to start as all guides i've seen are for specific builds not what build i should have and i can't find it, the rate im going at i would have to do trial and error and i dont think that is the best choice safety or money-wise
     
  9. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    No, they aren't. There are no 18650s rated for 35 amps.

    Sent from my M7_PLUS using Tapatalk
     
  10. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Mooch rates the vtc4 at 23 amps and the vtc5a at 20 amps (I might remember the latter wrong).

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  11. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    I didn't know that. I just know people fire the crap out of them in mechs.

    Also you can't go by anything Smok says. You can't fire any prebuilt that hard.

    When I got into building, I never read any guides.
    Wrap desired material around a rod, screw it into the atty and wick it till it's right.

    I was using cotton balls. It's really not hard.

    Quit going by wattage dude, theres more in the equation than wattage.
    If you're going for drop in coils, you aren't cloud chasing. I've hit one of those octa coil things and I have single coils that walk all over it.
    If you go the drop in route, there is much better out there than Smok. Made by people that don't lie to the consumer.
     
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  12. Cheallaigh

    Cheallaigh Ultra Member

    Aug 13, 2016
    Georgian Bay, Ontario
  13. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
    15 bucks for a single vtc5?!
    That's insane.
    That's about twice as much as the vtc5a!
    The vtc6 is only 9.
     
  14. sawlight

    sawlight Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2009
    Kansas
  15. whiteowl84

    whiteowl84 Unresolved Status ECF Veteran

    Jun 15, 2016
  16. Cheallaigh

    Cheallaigh Ultra Member

    Aug 13, 2016
    Georgian Bay, Ontario
    I am a canuck...
     
  17. GBalkam

    GBalkam Super Member

    Apr 29, 2016
    BAD... The manufacturer is lying to you. There is no such thing as a "pulse" rating because a pulse is not a defined value. How long is a pulse? I figure, if a manufacturer has to misrepresent its product by putting an unknown value, I want to avoid them. You notice, the most often recommended batteries, Sony, Lg, Samsung have no pulse rating? They don't need to make any false claims, their quality stands on its own.
    I am not telling YOU to do this, I have done a lot of research and study on this... but..
    My cloud builds are on a samsung 25r. Now I know those are safe, authentic brand name batteries. I also know what they have been stress tested at. I also know that MY pulse is 3.5 seconds. 1.5 second exhale and 2 second inhale. I also know that the samsung 25r has been stress tested to perform safely at UP TO 70Amp draw for 5 seconds, with a 30 second rest between firing. This tells me that my 40amp fire for 3.5 seconds is well below what the battery has been stress tested to handle. For added safety, i take my battery out and check it for heat in my hand. If it is getting hot, i put it up for awhile. Mind you, it shortens my battery life, but you can't have everything. I figure if the battery is hotter than your bath water, its time to give it a rest.
     
  18. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    What works for a brand new battery might not for a used battery, or a battery that's been stored for an unknown period. Firing a 20 amp battery at 40 amps just because it has been tested at more than that (in controlled laboratory conditions...) is the opposite of smart.

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  19. GBalkam

    GBalkam Super Member

    Apr 29, 2016
    Its been tested at 70 amps actually.
    And note, I was very clear that the person should not do that, it was an example. They have to do their own research etc. Since I don't know how long they fire for per draw, I can't say what is ok for them to use. AND it is a whole lot better than trusting some pulse rating printed on the label by the battery fairy. What I was saying is.. if there is a pulse rating on the label, don't trust the battery, since they have already lied to you to make a sale.
     
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  20. KenD

    KenD Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 20, 2013
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Tested in controlled laboratory conditions. Not stuck inside a box, possibly with cooling. Your use of the battery in vaping isn't comparable to the situation the battery's been tested at. A false sense of security is dangerous. Just saying.

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