OK figured I would say I ended up getting the 454 took a little bit to build but once I got it OMG single coil at 1.1 ohms sitting on my emech at 22watts very happy with it. Of course I have it all the way opened up changed the tip must say kinda shocked at the flavor and the vapor holy crap there is vapor. I am ordering the magma with my next check since alot of you suggest it for the flavor. Thanks a ton for the info.