I've been using Vision Spinner II Variable Voltage 1300mAh Battery for a long time. The Vision III Spinner Variable Voltage 1300mAh batteries die out on me too fast so I don't really like them and Vision II's are pretty well impossible to find now. I have no experience with mods or tanks or which is the best out there. Actually I'm not even sure how I would use them or what I would need to go with them, for instance my Vision Spinner needs a 510 thread Boge Cartomizer and a drip tip. Can anyone give me some direction and ideas? I'm completely lost, but I do know I never want to go back to smoking again.
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I'd suggest looking at newer MTL setups. One of my favorites is the aspire Zelos kit, (50 watt model, which should be plenty for your purposes) and it is light, easygoing, has an internal battery that holds up well, and is a rapid charge. It comes with a Nautilus 2 tank, which is a great startup tank for someone coming from a cartomizer. This is a traditional tank with drop in coils (there are various resistances from 0.7 (slightly DL, but can be used MTL with the right wattage and airflow) to a 1.8 coil (very restricted draw, MTL, probably more like cartos. This will require you purchasing e-liquid that you fill the tank with, depending on your cartomizer and what liquid it contains, should give you SOME idea where to start with nicotine level, and VG/PG (the two main ingredients in e-juice that vaporize your nicotine) if you don't know where to start on that 50/50 might be a good starting point for MTL vaping. You will find that coils last anywhere from 1--2 weeks depending on your e-juice and gunking factors (sweet or dark juices, NET juices high VG content) but the tank itself is very easygoing and it's not hard to change a coil. Replacement coils are inexpensive.
I'm sure others will be along with recommendations, the Pico 25 and Mello III tank is another popular combination, as are the Innoken T18s, 20s, etc. (With those, there is fixed wattage like your setup probably, and it comes with a tank that is quite popular with many folks, and I believe you can adjust airflow and use different coils, it's just less variable than some other setups.
Once you decide, well, hopefully you can take advantage of some online Halloween specials! If not, ordering from a place like Fasttech or 3F (ordering direct from China) will save you money, but it may take up to a month for your items to arrive (full disclosure).
Good luck, I hope you find something that fits your needs!
Anna
I'm sure others will be along with recommendations, the Pico 25 and Mello III tank is another popular combination, as are the Innoken T18s, 20s, etc. (With those, there is fixed wattage like your setup probably, and it comes with a tank that is quite popular with many folks, and I believe you can adjust airflow and use different coils, it's just less variable than some other setups.
Once you decide, well, hopefully you can take advantage of some online Halloween specials! If not, ordering from a place like Fasttech or 3F (ordering direct from China) will save you money, but it may take up to a month for your items to arrive (full disclosure).
Good luck, I hope you find something that fits your needs!
Anna
Limited battery life and continual charging.......many, if not most of us have experience dealing with solving (or at least trying to) that issue. I went through the process in steps, 900mah pen to 1300mah pen to built in battery to external battery (single, then dual). Costly, but I was more comfortable taking small steps. It took me a while to get comfortable with external battery use, but once I took that step the concern of running out of power was eliminated.
With the memories of running out of smokes/fire still firmly implanted in my memory, I lean heavily on being well covered. It sounds like you are currently vaping at low wattage, so a higher mah built in or single 18650 external mod would give you a day's (or most of a day's) use. I prefer carrying a spare 18650 (in a protective case, of course) for added battery rather then having to plug in the mod. But since I don't mind the extra size/weight, I find it even easier to carry that "spare battery" in a dual 18650 mod. At 12 watts or less, I would think the batteries would last at least a couple days for any overnight trips and would also provide the power should increasing your wattage come into play.
So it pretty much comes down to what you are comfortable using, what looks/feels good to you, your vaping lifestyle, and what will cover your current and possible future vaping needs. You might stop in a vape shop or two and see what they suggest and see/hold what interests you. Just cause you shop there doesn't mean you have to buy there, but having help readily available is worth something.
The mod is but your power and all should use the 510 connector, so should fire most any tank you choose. For low wattage use, I will leave those recommendations to those more familiar.
While the vast array of options for mods/tanks make it more confusing, it also lets us dial in on what will work well for each of us. Good luck!
With the memories of running out of smokes/fire still firmly implanted in my memory, I lean heavily on being well covered. It sounds like you are currently vaping at low wattage, so a higher mah built in or single 18650 external mod would give you a day's (or most of a day's) use. I prefer carrying a spare 18650 (in a protective case, of course) for added battery rather then having to plug in the mod. But since I don't mind the extra size/weight, I find it even easier to carry that "spare battery" in a dual 18650 mod. At 12 watts or less, I would think the batteries would last at least a couple days for any overnight trips and would also provide the power should increasing your wattage come into play.
So it pretty much comes down to what you are comfortable using, what looks/feels good to you, your vaping lifestyle, and what will cover your current and possible future vaping needs. You might stop in a vape shop or two and see what they suggest and see/hold what interests you. Just cause you shop there doesn't mean you have to buy there, but having help readily available is worth something.
The mod is but your power and all should use the 510 connector, so should fire most any tank you choose. For low wattage use, I will leave those recommendations to those more familiar.
While the vast array of options for mods/tanks make it more confusing, it also lets us dial in on what will work well for each of us. Good luck!
Anna,
Once again this may be in accurate but I have heard the batteries used in internal battery units are not very good, they don't last very long and there lifetime is short. I'll rely on your answer for a more accurate version.
On the Pico 25 and Mello III tank I have one, and I was hoping to use it with the Smok TFV8 tank but the resistance is to high and can not be used with the Pico 25. I bought a Griffin 25 mini tank and put in a .25 ohm SS coil in it but the resistance is a little high and the system is unreliable. The Voopoo vaporizer solved the problem because it can take any resistance coil. I believe all temp rated vaporizes should be capable of handling a wide range of resistance values not a narrow range.
OlderNDirt,
I wish you luck, manufactures are making progress but it takes time
Once again this may be in accurate but I have heard the batteries used in internal battery units are not very good, they don't last very long and there lifetime is short. I'll rely on your answer for a more accurate version.
On the Pico 25 and Mello III tank I have one, and I was hoping to use it with the Smok TFV8 tank but the resistance is to high and can not be used with the Pico 25. I bought a Griffin 25 mini tank and put in a .25 ohm SS coil in it but the resistance is a little high and the system is unreliable. The Voopoo vaporizer solved the problem because it can take any resistance coil. I believe all temp rated vaporizes should be capable of handling a wide range of resistance values not a narrow range.
OlderNDirt,
I wish you luck, manufactures are making progress but it takes time
Nearly every power device available today is 510-threaded so your existing cartomizers should work just fine. Like ^^they said^^, just pick one that looks and feels good in your hands.
Eleaf mod..anything 20watts or more.. with a Nautilus tank......... other tanks OK.... and the one you have should work.....
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I was kind of thinking that the OP was looking for something similar but a slight step up. I totally agree with you and prefer mods that have removable batteries, and I often will use a 2 battery setup for my (very low watt or temp) MTL tanks or RTAs.
It's a good point however, I do have one internal battery that I DO use, the zelos 75 actually, but I mainly use it as a very light and compact backup vape that I take out and about in case something happens. I vastly prefer more flexible mods, and almost every mod I own has a removable battery apart from a couple things I've won, recently. I don't know how well an internal battery holds up, and I think it probably differs a great deal based on use patterns. I just was unsure that the OP wanted to make the jump to say, a two battery mod.
If that's the case, there are tons of great options out there these days, and to the OP, if you clarify what kind of setup you want, that would be helpful I think? If you want to raise wattage, try DL (sub0hm resistance) you can certainly do that with a more powerful mod, OR put a MTL topper on whatever mod you choose.
Purchasing a 1 or 2 watt battery will also require purchasing 2 pairs of married batteries and a good charger. If that's what the OP is after, I can surely give some input.
Anna
It's a good point however, I do have one internal battery that I DO use, the zelos 75 actually, but I mainly use it as a very light and compact backup vape that I take out and about in case something happens. I vastly prefer more flexible mods, and almost every mod I own has a removable battery apart from a couple things I've won, recently. I don't know how well an internal battery holds up, and I think it probably differs a great deal based on use patterns. I just was unsure that the OP wanted to make the jump to say, a two battery mod.
If that's the case, there are tons of great options out there these days, and to the OP, if you clarify what kind of setup you want, that would be helpful I think? If you want to raise wattage, try DL (sub0hm resistance) you can certainly do that with a more powerful mod, OR put a MTL topper on whatever mod you choose.
Purchasing a 1 or 2 watt battery will also require purchasing 2 pairs of married batteries and a good charger. If that's what the OP is after, I can surely give some input.
Anna
There are many options available to you today. Most will be larger/bulkier/heavier than your previous setups but with that you'll get better performance and battery time. Purchasing price will also likely be more, but that tradeoff will be balanced by better durability/life expectancy. The following articles should help guide your final decisions.
Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder
Good Starter Setups for a Beginner Vaper
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder
- From cigalike batteries, to eGo's, to mods. Another picture dictionary of terminology and form factors for beginning vapers. Includes videos.
Good Starter Setups for a Beginner Vaper
- Typical starter setups recommended for a new vaper. Includes a video on the use of an eGo variable voltage battery/clearomizer and of the iStick and MVP mods.
- A picture dictionary for beginners with descriptions of clearomizers, nano's, drip atomizers, bottom feeding mods, cartomizers, cartotanks, and RBA's (rebuildable atomizers). Includes video demos/reviews of all devices. Includes tips on clearomizer tanks to avoid flooding or dry hit issues.
Battery Basics for Mods: The Definative Battery Guide for Vaping
- A popular and essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.
The vision spinners are basically just Ego twists, pretty outdated technology in the world of vaping. I don't even think they are a regulated device. Not sure what you are using for a tank, but it sounds like it might be an ego cone type thread, again, kind of out dated. Will they work, sure, they were the greatest thing since sliced bread, like five years ago.
Up side is they are simple to use, and pretty compact. Down side is as you said, the battery life is not very impressive. Nor is the power for that matter. If I am correct in assuming they are a non regulated device this means that even though they have adjustable voltage, the actual voltage you are applying to the atomizer goes down as the battery drains and the voltage drops.
My advice is to take your next step up in vaping. Get a variable wattage regulated device. It doesn't have to be a good one to be honest, at least not right now. You can get a pretty decent 15-20 watt regulated device with a tank for 20 or 30 bucks. And there are quite a few that are compact, cute and lady like, if that is what you want.
If you don't mind something a bit larger the battery will last quite a bit longer. Internal batteries are not that bad really, normally what ends up failing is the tiny usb connector used to charge them, not the battery. I have Itaste mvp 3.0 that I LOVED, until I couldn't charge it anymore because the usb port got jacked up. If I could find one cheap I would probably get another one.
I am not going to tell you what to buy or suggest any one product though. I honestly don't have much experience with the smaller devices. Except the ego twist devices like you already have, I owned quite a few of those a while back. Now I tend to prefer mid sized box mods that take external batteries. Some of the tiny ones are cute though.
I am sure someone else here can give you more advice on what is a good cheap regulated device, that has actually used them. Or just look around until you see something that looks nice to you, then watch some reviews on youtube.
Up side is they are simple to use, and pretty compact. Down side is as you said, the battery life is not very impressive. Nor is the power for that matter. If I am correct in assuming they are a non regulated device this means that even though they have adjustable voltage, the actual voltage you are applying to the atomizer goes down as the battery drains and the voltage drops.
My advice is to take your next step up in vaping. Get a variable wattage regulated device. It doesn't have to be a good one to be honest, at least not right now. You can get a pretty decent 15-20 watt regulated device with a tank for 20 or 30 bucks. And there are quite a few that are compact, cute and lady like, if that is what you want.
If you don't mind something a bit larger the battery will last quite a bit longer. Internal batteries are not that bad really, normally what ends up failing is the tiny usb connector used to charge them, not the battery. I have Itaste mvp 3.0 that I LOVED, until I couldn't charge it anymore because the usb port got jacked up. If I could find one cheap I would probably get another one.
I am not going to tell you what to buy or suggest any one product though. I honestly don't have much experience with the smaller devices. Except the ego twist devices like you already have, I owned quite a few of those a while back. Now I tend to prefer mid sized box mods that take external batteries. Some of the tiny ones are cute though.
I am sure someone else here can give you more advice on what is a good cheap regulated device, that has actually used them. Or just look around until you see something that looks nice to you, then watch some reviews on youtube.
Ok I just looked and I guess the spinner is a "regulated" device. I would be willing to bet it isn't regulated as well as a more modern mod with a decent chipset though.
Avenara are you wanting mouth to lung, mtl, or do you want to experiment with various air flow, af, settings? Do you want an internal battery or are you willing to use external batteries? How long would you like the mod to perform between charges or changing batteries? Please give us a little input what your expectations are.
I'm not so sure about external batteries, but I suppose that's because I don't know much about them. On the other hand, having to continually buy a new set up because internal batteries tend to be poor doesn't sound too great either.
Personally, I don't really care what the device looks like. I was mostly looking for safety, durability, and longevity. Although having bought an Aspire Zelos kit, I've discovered I very much prefer having a tank to fill with ejuice over the constant hassle of adding it into a cartomizer to keep the cartomizer wet and prevent burning the cotton inside. The tank kindly keeps everything nice and moist for me. *laughs*
I was surprised to find the vapor quite warm, which my Vision Spinner II never produced. I can't quite decide if I like the warmth or not. *laughs* I suppose over so many years, I've gotten used to a cool vape. I'm sure I'll adapt to whatever I settle on since my priorities will always be safety, durability, and longevity. Although, I think my single day with the Aspire Zelos has spoiled me into being attached to tanks as well. I always hated having to fill up a cartomizer then constantly hand feed it and pray I'm paying enough attention to not accidentally burn the cotton. It also sounds as if external battery devices have become much safer over the years if so many people are recommending them.
I'm not particularly sure the true meaning of mouth to lung or air flow yet, so I imagine I'll have to take the time to go through all of those guides to fully grasp the meaning. At least in the meantime, I have something that isn't extremely hard to find, is quite a bit more updated, and less of a hassle when it comes to keeping the cartomizer wet until I truly set my sights on the device that will be my prize for a while.
Back when I started vaping, I had foolishly tried using the devices that looked like cigarettes, had a similar weight and even the tip turned red when you breathed in. To say you could barely get any nicotine out to satisfy your craving and their usage was limited to 200 breaths in, made them quite irritating to say the least. So I cam here for help.
After some advice, I started using the Vision battery series, I started with their very first. Out of all of the ego type batteries, Vision was supposedly the best for safety, durability, and longevity. Not to mention they delivered enough nicotine to actually help me quit smoking. For the most part, they really were everything I'd asked for. Eventually the Vision II came out and it was even better, soon the Vision II spinner, again, better still. Then the Vision III which was a complete let down. It had no longevity what so ever. Usually they died within a week or two. So we just went back to the Vision Spinner II until recently.
I was content not having the top of the line when it was a product I trusted, but suddenly that product was impossible to find and well...here I am. Once again turning to the community that solved my problem with those tiny ecig models that look like actual cigarettes but had no real power behind them and died out fast. *laughs*
So forgive me if I'm considerably behind the times and terminology despite how long I've vaped, but I've trusted you all before and found a perfect fit for probably a decade now. I even ended up a far too loyal costumer of theirs. *giggles* All good things must come to an end, however, so it's time to move on and explore all the advances that have been made. I'm just glad none of these advancements are going to send me back to those pretend cigarette models. *snickers*
Personally, I don't really care what the device looks like. I was mostly looking for safety, durability, and longevity. Although having bought an Aspire Zelos kit, I've discovered I very much prefer having a tank to fill with ejuice over the constant hassle of adding it into a cartomizer to keep the cartomizer wet and prevent burning the cotton inside. The tank kindly keeps everything nice and moist for me. *laughs*
I was surprised to find the vapor quite warm, which my Vision Spinner II never produced. I can't quite decide if I like the warmth or not. *laughs* I suppose over so many years, I've gotten used to a cool vape. I'm sure I'll adapt to whatever I settle on since my priorities will always be safety, durability, and longevity. Although, I think my single day with the Aspire Zelos has spoiled me into being attached to tanks as well. I always hated having to fill up a cartomizer then constantly hand feed it and pray I'm paying enough attention to not accidentally burn the cotton. It also sounds as if external battery devices have become much safer over the years if so many people are recommending them.
I'm not particularly sure the true meaning of mouth to lung or air flow yet, so I imagine I'll have to take the time to go through all of those guides to fully grasp the meaning. At least in the meantime, I have something that isn't extremely hard to find, is quite a bit more updated, and less of a hassle when it comes to keeping the cartomizer wet until I truly set my sights on the device that will be my prize for a while.
Back when I started vaping, I had foolishly tried using the devices that looked like cigarettes, had a similar weight and even the tip turned red when you breathed in. To say you could barely get any nicotine out to satisfy your craving and their usage was limited to 200 breaths in, made them quite irritating to say the least. So I cam here for help.
After some advice, I started using the Vision battery series, I started with their very first. Out of all of the ego type batteries, Vision was supposedly the best for safety, durability, and longevity. Not to mention they delivered enough nicotine to actually help me quit smoking. For the most part, they really were everything I'd asked for. Eventually the Vision II came out and it was even better, soon the Vision II spinner, again, better still. Then the Vision III which was a complete let down. It had no longevity what so ever. Usually they died within a week or two. So we just went back to the Vision Spinner II until recently.
I was content not having the top of the line when it was a product I trusted, but suddenly that product was impossible to find and well...here I am. Once again turning to the community that solved my problem with those tiny ecig models that look like actual cigarettes but had no real power behind them and died out fast. *laughs*
So forgive me if I'm considerably behind the times and terminology despite how long I've vaped, but I've trusted you all before and found a perfect fit for probably a decade now. I even ended up a far too loyal costumer of theirs. *giggles* All good things must come to an end, however, so it's time to move on and explore all the advances that have been made. I'm just glad none of these advancements are going to send me back to those pretend cigarette models. *snickers*
This may help: Vaping slang and acronyms
Nothing wrong with sticking to tried and true and what works for you, either. I enjoy external batteries, but that's what I started with (more or less, I dual used a bit then returned to full time smoking-- not good-- before starting vaping with much more seriousness. A lot has changed, but the basic principles are the same, for sure.
Anna
Nothing wrong with sticking to tried and true and what works for you, either. I enjoy external batteries, but that's what I started with (more or less, I dual used a bit then returned to full time smoking-- not good-- before starting vaping with much more seriousness. A lot has changed, but the basic principles are the same, for sure.
Anna
Mouth to lung finally makes sense...it's hit. I always knew it as throat hit. *laughs* Too much of a throat hit can make my throat sore so I suppose I'm not looking for too much strength in that department. That's one puzzle solved. Although I'm not entirely sure how air flow effects things. I should mess around with my Aspire Zelos because the little holes on the side can restrict air flow if I want them to and then perhaps I'll understand through experimenting and seeing what happens. *laughs* Thanks for catching me up on what the new term. 
It seems like covering up the air holes creates more vapor, although it won't "feed me" said vapor as quickly. I have to actively draw in the breath...almost like a cigarette. Interesting. I suppose my next step is deciding if I like being fed the vapor more. Perhaps in combination, having a higher mtl and low air flow will create more vapor, but also still feed me the vapor actively. Well, with everything so new, all I can do is experiment to find the right mixture, right? *laughs*
Edit: Oh no, I see throat hit is on that list...hm...back to square one I suppose. *laughs*
It seems like covering up the air holes creates more vapor, although it won't "feed me" said vapor as quickly. I have to actively draw in the breath...almost like a cigarette. Interesting. I suppose my next step is deciding if I like being fed the vapor more. Perhaps in combination, having a higher mtl and low air flow will create more vapor, but also still feed me the vapor actively. Well, with everything so new, all I can do is experiment to find the right mixture, right? *laughs*
Edit: Oh no, I see throat hit is on that list...hm...back to square one I suppose. *laughs*
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Coming from Spinners and Cartos, most tanks are going to be too airy. I would say that the next logical step in progression would be something more like a SMOK ARO with some replaceable 18650 tube mod with ego threading, or a small low power single 18650 box mod and an ego adapter.
Lets see if we can use some analogies to better explain the differences between mouth to lung and direct lung vaping.
Mouth to lung vaping is very similar to drinking something with a straw. You sip, or draw the liquid into your mouth, then swallow it. It is a two part process, sip then swallow. Mouth to lung is more like chugging beer, or doing a keg stand, or using a funnel at a college party. You just open your throat and poor it down.
The difference with vaping is obviously you are sucking the vapor into your lungs instead.
Air restriction is like the difference between drinking a milk shake through a straw vs drinking soda. It takes a lot more effort to get the shake up the straw then it does the much thinner soda. Carto tanks are like trying to drink a mc donald's milkshake through a cocktail straw lol. Imagine trying to chug something through a straw, it doesn't work very will, if at all. Same with direct to lung vaping, it is very hard to direct lung something with a more restrictive air flow. So direct to lung vapers tend to like a much less restrictive air flow so it is easier to just "breathe" the vapor into their lungs as opposed to sucking on it, then inhaling it.
As for your hotter vape, this is most likely because what you were doing before was probably using tanks with a fairly high resistance coil with a tight draw on a fairly low wattage device. Now you have switched to something that most likely has a lower ohm coil, more air flow and using a device that can deliver much more power.
This can very easily be fixed, look for coil heads with a higher resistance and simply turn the wattage down on your device. Air flow plays a part in it too, but not as much as the coil and power supplied.
If you have a bunch of ego threaded tanks, you can get an adapter to use them on a modern device. Only down side is the older ego tanks don't hold very much fluid and I don't think the taste is any where as good as a more modern tank. If you have older carto tanks that use a 510 connection they should screw right into any new device just fine. But again, in my opinion the technology is pretty outdated. New tanks are pretty cheap and they work better.
Mouth to lung vaping is very similar to drinking something with a straw. You sip, or draw the liquid into your mouth, then swallow it. It is a two part process, sip then swallow. Mouth to lung is more like chugging beer, or doing a keg stand, or using a funnel at a college party. You just open your throat and poor it down.
The difference with vaping is obviously you are sucking the vapor into your lungs instead.
Air restriction is like the difference between drinking a milk shake through a straw vs drinking soda. It takes a lot more effort to get the shake up the straw then it does the much thinner soda. Carto tanks are like trying to drink a mc donald's milkshake through a cocktail straw lol. Imagine trying to chug something through a straw, it doesn't work very will, if at all. Same with direct to lung vaping, it is very hard to direct lung something with a more restrictive air flow. So direct to lung vapers tend to like a much less restrictive air flow so it is easier to just "breathe" the vapor into their lungs as opposed to sucking on it, then inhaling it.
As for your hotter vape, this is most likely because what you were doing before was probably using tanks with a fairly high resistance coil with a tight draw on a fairly low wattage device. Now you have switched to something that most likely has a lower ohm coil, more air flow and using a device that can deliver much more power.
This can very easily be fixed, look for coil heads with a higher resistance and simply turn the wattage down on your device. Air flow plays a part in it too, but not as much as the coil and power supplied.
If you have a bunch of ego threaded tanks, you can get an adapter to use them on a modern device. Only down side is the older ego tanks don't hold very much fluid and I don't think the taste is any where as good as a more modern tank. If you have older carto tanks that use a 510 connection they should screw right into any new device just fine. But again, in my opinion the technology is pretty outdated. New tanks are pretty cheap and they work better.
That makes a lot of sense. Out of the two coils, the one that came with the kit was very low resistance, but there is a choice for a higher one that works with the Aspire Zelos. I guess that would solve that problem pretty quickly. *laughs* Well, at least now I understand the basics of how resistance and wattage will effect my vape and that's invaluable to me. Thank you.
I suppose...I would describe the Vision Spinner as very mouth to lung vape as I have to collect the vapor in my mouth with low to moderate air flow, as it doesn't make me have to outright suck on it to get the vapor. It just sort of flows into my mouth.
The low wattage I have on my Aspire Zelos keeps it between mouth to lung and direct to lung...although I suspect that is due to the high air flow. With so much air flow, it would be hard for it to be mouth to lung. I don't find it unpleasant, just different.
Sometimes I'm unaware of just how much nicotine I've taken in simply because I'm not used to taking in so much in one hit. I had to work harder for a hit drawing just some into my mouth and breathing it in over taking a little into my mouth and freely breathing in the rest. Where before I may have needed three hits, one seems to be more than enough. The extra air flow causes the vapor to have less flavor and density than I'm used to, so I end up taking those two extra hits as if I were using my old battery and the cartomizer needed me to put some more ejuice into it. Then suddenly I get that funny, dizzy rush when I'd have a cigarette for the first time in the morning. *laughs*
It took me a little while to figure out what was going on. So there is a bit of a learning curve it seems. One hit is enough no matter what I may think due to a much lighter flavor. I'm guessing part of the charm of mouth to lung is the flavor of your ejuice is stronger? Well, either way I'm going to be ordering some higher resistance coils since I think I do like the cooler vapor at least and lowering my wattage is quite simple.
I suppose...I would describe the Vision Spinner as very mouth to lung vape as I have to collect the vapor in my mouth with low to moderate air flow, as it doesn't make me have to outright suck on it to get the vapor. It just sort of flows into my mouth.
The low wattage I have on my Aspire Zelos keeps it between mouth to lung and direct to lung...although I suspect that is due to the high air flow. With so much air flow, it would be hard for it to be mouth to lung. I don't find it unpleasant, just different.
Sometimes I'm unaware of just how much nicotine I've taken in simply because I'm not used to taking in so much in one hit. I had to work harder for a hit drawing just some into my mouth and breathing it in over taking a little into my mouth and freely breathing in the rest. Where before I may have needed three hits, one seems to be more than enough. The extra air flow causes the vapor to have less flavor and density than I'm used to, so I end up taking those two extra hits as if I were using my old battery and the cartomizer needed me to put some more ejuice into it. Then suddenly I get that funny, dizzy rush when I'd have a cigarette for the first time in the morning. *laughs*
It took me a little while to figure out what was going on. So there is a bit of a learning curve it seems. One hit is enough no matter what I may think due to a much lighter flavor. I'm guessing part of the charm of mouth to lung is the flavor of your ejuice is stronger? Well, either way I'm going to be ordering some higher resistance coils since I think I do like the cooler vapor at least and lowering my wattage is quite simple.
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That's great, and I am glad you are finding out what you like. I am a MTL vaper and I very much prefer it to blowing huge clouds.... I find the flavor better and it's less expensive as I go through less coils and juice (though I DIY these days, also a savings) your battery life will also be good.
There are some excellent setups on the market and the Nautilus 2 is one of my favorites. It was actually the tank that I used to quit smoking on, so it has a special place in my heart. I hope you continue finding stable MTL setups that you like (you need at least one backup setup, IMO, and most folks would agree-- there's nothing like your equipment having a moment and not having a backup vape.
So glad for you though !! Congrats.
Anna
There are some excellent setups on the market and the Nautilus 2 is one of my favorites. It was actually the tank that I used to quit smoking on, so it has a special place in my heart. I hope you continue finding stable MTL setups that you like (you need at least one backup setup, IMO, and most folks would agree-- there's nothing like your equipment having a moment and not having a backup vape.
So glad for you though
!! Congrats.Anna
I would guess that most that like direct lung with a really open atomizer are doing it for the clouds. Most direct to lung hits create a large very dense vapor cloud.
I could see someone doing it for flavor though. Most of the time I get the most flavor when I exhale and the vapor is going over the top of my tongue. So I guess a larger amount of vapor might correlate to more flavor. Doesn't seem to be that way for me, but I am a bit of an oddball lol.
Vapor production has never been anywhere near the top of my list of things that I look for in a good vape. Too much vapor just obstructs my view of the screen when I watching tv or a movie. Or it fills my car with vapor, or just annoys people that don't vape or smoke when I vape around them. You can also reduce the amount of vapor by just holding it in your lungs for a couple of seconds before exhaling. This will also absorb more nicotine as well.
I do direct lung at times though, especially if I am using a dripper.
I could see someone doing it for flavor though. Most of the time I get the most flavor when I exhale and the vapor is going over the top of my tongue. So I guess a larger amount of vapor might correlate to more flavor. Doesn't seem to be that way for me, but I am a bit of an oddball lol.
Vapor production has never been anywhere near the top of my list of things that I look for in a good vape. Too much vapor just obstructs my view of the screen when I watching tv or a movie. Or it fills my car with vapor, or just annoys people that don't vape or smoke when I vape around them. You can also reduce the amount of vapor by just holding it in your lungs for a couple of seconds before exhaling. This will also absorb more nicotine as well.
I do direct lung at times though, especially if I am using a dripper.
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