Need help, know what I want but not how to get it

[Beldar]

Hi all,

I'm new in the forum and on vaping.

After a few weeks vaping I realised liquids with 50% PG make my throat hurt and makes me produce phlegm. After trying a 90% VG liquid I realise that works perfect for me, but I couldn't find liquids with the nicotine concentration I need (11-12mg), and also the starter vape I use is not suitable either.

I've also read on the Internet that if you have this kind of nicotine concentration you shouldn't get massive clouds.

So my question here is, if the liquid I want is 90% VG and 11mg nicotine, which vape/mod should I get provided that my goal is not massive clouds of vapor? Any advice on liquids would be appreciated as well.

Thanks!

 

[Izan]

Hi and welcome.
What are you using now?
PG is a flavour carrier and contributes to TH.
VG is sweet and thick and contributes to large, puffy clouds.
1.1% or 11mg/ml nicotine is generally used in MTL devices at under 20 watts.
And finally, where are you located so we may offer relevant vendor suggestions.

Cheers
I

 

[rollersk4te]

You'll probably need to custom order your e-liquid from a vendor like The Vape Mall, Mitten Vapors, Mt Baker Vapor, etc.

I would recommend trying this e-liquid in your current setup first before you switch. You might be okay with 9 or 12mg nicotine fluid with it, and just need to set it at a lower wattage and/or use higher OHM coils with it. Could you tell us what setup you're using for more insight?

 

[Beldar]

I'm currently using this setup TECC arc Mini 20W E-cig Kit and E-liquid it's quite small and not very powerful, that's why I'm seeking advice on a better set up for the specific liquid that I need

Thanks

 

[Izan]

In the UK, you are limited to TPD liquids: 10ml size, MAX 20mg/ml. (ShortFills, with 0 nicotine, are available in larger amount/bottles)
I think something like the Innokin Kroma A /Zenith kit may be a perfect step up. You may even be able to reduce your nicotine level if the new device is more efficient.

Cheers
I

 

[dsites]

As others have suggested, I'd try the new juice in your current device. 20 watts is more than enough for mouth to lung. If you still want a new device, Innokin has quite a few nice MTL devices which are very easy to use.

 

[Letitia]

Hello Beldar, welcome to ECF. Would you prefer an internal battery device or are you open to an external battery? I only use external batteries for convenience. I don't have to worry about plugging in and will not have to brick my mods once the battery dies.

 

[Beldar]

Thank you for all your replies, I forgot to mention that I do DTL. Haven't got used to MTL yet does that change the options I have?

Thanks

 

[Letitia]

Thank you for all your replies, I forgot to mention that I do DTL. Haven't got used to MTL yet does that change the options I have?

Thanks

Yes it does. Budget and availability as well as your preference for size and style information is needed for us to give you useful suggestions.

 

[stols001]

That's a high nicotine level for a sub0hm device, although it's not too far from the realm of normal, however I guess high enough for it to make finding juices harder. I agree with others on maybe trying 9 mg/ml and see if that gets you enough nicotine, since you are sub0hming. Other than that, custom juice makers will be your best bet (if you don't want to get into DIY and I'm not sure you can given your location. You might be able to get a "higher" nic strength (e.g. highest strength available at 50/50 percentage and then dilute it down with some VG to get a higher VG level while increasing VG, although of course, you then dilute your flavor doing that . Could get some high VG 0 nic in the same flavor, and do the same thing (e.g. get 18 mg/ml flavor and the other bottle of VG only flavor and there are juice calculators that will help you "mix" the two in the right ratio. That's the only way I can think of to get around it.

With that said, you may do just fine at a slightly lower nic level, or even perhaps by getting a tank that has even lower resistance coils and goes slightly higher on wattage to kind of "compensate" from any lack of nicotine that you feel.

Is there a reason you think 12 nic will be better than say 9, necessarily? I do think you'll probably want to increase your VG in a sub0hm setup if you are sensing harshness, but the harshness may not be coming entirely from your PG either... Higher levels of nic (in any setup) can increase harshness as well.

Best of luck with whatever you decide to do!

Anna

 

[rollersk4te]

That's a high nicotine level for a sub0hm device

It's not a subOHM device. It uses 1.5ohm coils. That's why the discussion of trading up devices.... OP may need to go subOHM.

 

[Steve Parry]

Wake Tank from Wake Mod Co does will with high VG juices. You can find it in a kit with the Lightfoot mod. It goes up to 60 watts, which appears to be plenty for you.

You can customize your pg/vg and nicotine levels with Heather's Heavenly Vapes. They're one of my favorite vendors, and they have a wide selection available in your desired 12mg 90vg level. Just remember they list pg first, so you would select 10/90 for 10% pg 90% vg.

 

[Storm52]

Welcome to the forum, Beldar.

 

[stols001]

It's not a subOHM device. It uses 1.5ohm coils. That's why the discussion of trading up devices.... OP may need to go subOHM.

Oops, my bad. Sorry. Either ignore everything I said or reverse it (I am going to go with ignore is easier, LOL).

Anna

 

[Izan]

Thank you for all your replies, I forgot to mention that I do DTL. Haven't got used to MTL yet does that change the options I have?

Thanks

B,
If you are using the CS tank that came with the kit, even with the .75Ω or the TC .15ΩNi coils, the airflow and coil size will generally limit you to a restricted DTL inhale.
Have you used another tank on the ARCmini?
Have you tried other sub ohm set ups that you found appealing?

Cheers
I

 

[Beldar]

B,
If you are using the CS tank that came with the kit, even with the .75Ω or the TC .15ΩNi coils, the airflow and coil size will generally limit you to a restricted DTL inhale.
Have you used another tank on the ARCmini?
Have you tried other sub ohm set ups that you found appealing?

Cheers
I

Hi Izan,

I haven't tried any other set up, like I said I'm quite a novice. I realised the setup I have doesn't work very well for the type of vaping I want to do and that's why I want to change. I do want to try a subohm coil to compare.

I think I'll start with a new tank maybe with more air flow and a couple coil options to find which one works best for me.

Thank you all for all your comments

 

[Izan]

Hi Izan,

I haven't tried any other set up, like I said I'm quite a novice. I realised the setup I have doesn't work very well for the type of vaping I want to do and that's why I want to change. I do want to try a subohm coil to compare.

I think I'll start with a new tank maybe with more air flow and a couple coil options to find which one works best for me.

Thank you all for all your comments

Hi B,
I still think the Innokin Kroma A /Zenith kit is a great next step for you.
Watch a few videos of it in action.
Good luck on your journey.

Cheers
I

ETA: Consider the Crown (V1) by Uwell as a "stand alone" tank/ upgrade. (after the Kroma kit)

 

[BrotherBob]

Thank you all for all your comments

Welcome and glad you joined.
Sounds like a plan.
Could read:
Above-Ohm Vaping vs Sub-Ohm Vaping
Vaping and Inhaling: Everything You Need To Know
http://www.joyetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/images/product/cuboid/Cuboid_Mini_Kit_10.png

 

[mcclintock]

I googled that thing and a site says "Atomizer compatibility: The arc mini 20W will not fire below 1.0ohm, when buying CS atomizer heads please purchase the 1.5ohm option. The 0.75ohm CS atomizer heads will not work." (If that's not where the link was to, maybe it was good the mods made it harder to answer your question this time. Thanks for trying to include the link anyway, it's the right thing to do.) No specs are in the manual on the minimum load resistance, so that's a good note.

If that tank is best run well below the 20W max., it's certainly possible to buy or build (e.g. RDA, 28 gauge Kanthal coiled) something that can go closer to the battery unit's limit without putting it into protection that would be more than enough for most with 11 mg., but it's probably easier to get something more powerful or at least versatile.

Have you considered the nicotine has a lot to do with the harshness? Try nicotine salts.

 

[Beldar]

I googled that thing and a site says "Atomizer compatibility: The arc mini 20W will not fire below 1.0ohm, when buying CS atomizer heads please purchase the 1.5ohm option. The 0.75ohm CS atomizer heads will not work." (If that's not where the link was to, maybe it was good the mods made it harder to answer your question this time. Thanks for trying to include the link anyway, it's the right thing to do.) No specs are in the manual on the minimum load resistance, so that's a good note.

If that tank is best run well below the 20W max., it's certainly possible to buy or build (e.g. RDA, 28 gauge Kanthal coiled) something that can go closer to the battery unit's limit without putting it into protection that would be more than enough for most with 11 mg., but it's probably easier to get something more powerful or at least versatile.

Have you considered the nicotine has a lot to do with the harshness? Try nicotine salts.

Wow, that's a very comprehensive post, in that case I guess I'll need to get a new kit. The Karma A/zenith that I've been recommended here looks like a good option

I've never heard of nicotine salts, what's the difference or pros /cons?

Thanks!