Need help making flavors taste right.

[zFb-]

Negative or positive reinforcement tends to work wonders. Just depends on which one you prefer Lol.

 

[FaniFox]

If they are teenagers FaniFox I have found that Money talks! I give out $2 bucks for each succesfully intercepted package. If Mom asks they are not to lie but if she does not ask then they are not to tell. Happy Vapes

Thanks! U 2!

 

[Str8V8ping]

@zfb - When I started DIY I had a difficult time getting a juice to "shine". They all seemed flat to me and nothing really popped. I struggled with why mine were not as good as the "store bought" stuff. I had a few favorite juices form Vendors and tried to make a few copies. Again same thing mine seemed flat. Then I put a dab of the store bought on my finger and tasted it. Each one of my favorites had a "sweetness" to it. I went and placed and order for two flavors- Cotton candy (Ethyl Malto in PG) and Sweetener (Sucralose in PG). Adding 1% sweetener to my DIY juices was the trick. I use the EM for tobacco based juices and the sweetener flavor for bakery and fruit types. I have not bought a premade juice in almost a year.

Taste is of course subjective and differs by by individual. Some people (like me) need a some sweetness for flavors to come through. It may or may not work for you. I only responded since I did not see any sweetener in your mixes and what you described sounded like the same problem I had when starting. Hope you find your masterpiece juice soon and happy vapes

Actually most vendors iv seen do not use sweeteners in their juice . For example MsTs has the sweetest juices there is and she does not use any sweeteners in her mixes .Hard to believe but its true . I am only able to get really sweet juices without sweetner when i use capellas flavoring .

 

[panachronic]

Are you making tobacco juices . Its probably your tobacco's . You should be testing each flavor by itself before mixing anything . 3ml should be the biggest bottles you should be making right now until you learn the flavor .

put 20 drops of pg in a bottle and one drop of flavoring .Thats 5% . vape 2 drops and see . Then add another drop of flavoring.Thats 10% .Vape it and see . Keep on going until you find where you like it . DO that for each flavor . You cant just go mixing stuff up and think its gonna be good when you start . It takes time to learn the flavor . Dont add a tobacco to the flavor .Not yet at least . You gotta be patient and do your testing first with small amount . 3ml batches or less until you know how the flavor works . Coffees and tobacco's are the two hardest flavorings to work with

DO NOT USE TPA COFFEEs as well . They are notorious for being gag worthy from what i read here .I havent came across one person that could work with them .

Start off with the sweet strawberry because that one is so good it will raise your spirits right back up .lol

<sigh>
I wish I'd seen this a few days ago.

I'm new to DIY (and having a blast with it). When I decided to dive in, along with some other stuff I ordered some TPA coffee (clear) and dark double chocolate.

My base liquids arrived a few days before my TPA order, so I jetted down to the local vape shop and bought a couple of Capella flavors to play with in the mean time. The Capella mixes were both home runs (apple pie and orange creamsicle), so when the TPA stuff showed up, I thought I was Mr. Pro Mixmaster and set about mixing some stuff up without sampling the flavors, just like I knew what I was doing.

This was a mistake.

The coffee, I do believe, will be a useful flavor - now that I know it shifts abruptly from tasty to disgusting right at about 2.5-3%. At first I tried making café mocha, adding it together at 10% with some chocolate and some dulce de leche, with the result being one of the most revolting concoctions I have ever tasted. Anywhere. But by itself mixed at 3%, it's good enough that I don't want to put it down.

I'm still figuring out the chocolate. I tried for a chocolate covered cherry flavor, by combining the chocolate with black cherry and ethyl maltol. That mix started out with the chocolate at 10% (probably too much, I now realize). I got the nice candied cherry flavor I wanted, but I couldn't taste anything else so I added a little more double dark chocolate. I've now decided to rename this one. I'm going to call it "Robitussin Mist".

Another lesson I got out of this: pay no attention to color. That coffee (clear) has a nice, tan, coffee-like hue to it, sitting in its little glass thimble at 100% strength. But mixed at a palatable level with PG/VG, there is no discernible color. My failed café mocha is the color of strong tea... no wonder it's un-vapable.

Another one I am scratching my head over is tobacco absolute. Dang, that stuff isn't just concentrated, it's botulism-strength!