Need help Ohms vs. Volts w Attys & Cartos w/ my Silver Bullet

[sandiegodude]

Hey everyone.
I've researched and researched and the more I read the more confused I get.
I have a Silver Bullet I've been using 18hrs a day for over a year with no complaints, BUT My tank cartos keep getting clogged same day and I can't figure out why. I was using a 510=>901 adapter for dripping my 901 attys but recently tried a 510 carto + tank and wanted to stick to it so I wouldn't have to drip 20 times an hour (yeah, I'm a heavy vaper)


Once in a while I will get a cart that will last a month of great vaping but more often than not they clog the same day or within a week at most.
Here are the facts:
The cartos range from 1.25 to 1.5v @ 2 ohms (I've had better luck with the 1.5v@2ohms but haven't tried anything but 1.25v & 1.5v) 45mm Replacement 510 DCT Cartomizer(2 holes)
I am using a Tenergy 3.7V battery fully charged FRYS.com | TENERGY
When I blow out the carto the juice is almost black whereas in the tank it is still amber in color.
My trusty Silver Bullet is beat to .... but still works well
I use a tank with pre punched cartos.
I always will the cotton before filling the tank.
Juice is 23mg PV home-made with love. about the consistency of milk at room temperature.

Can anyone help me figure out how to "dial in" my vaping so it is reliable and consistent? Which combo of voltage/ohmage/etc would work the best with my type of juice?
Should I use higher or lower ohmage? higher or lower volt cartos?
Should I double up the batteries and vape @ 6v????

I am willing to jump to a different mod/carto/atty combo if i need to but would like to keep what I have if at all possible.
Any help would be appreciated.

Your help is greatly appreciated and I will be sure to help another vaper in need when the time comes with the knowledge that I receive from this forum.
Thanks in Advance!

 

[Roary]

First we need to clear a few things up. The carto's do not have any voltage associated with them. They are just rated by Ohms (which is resistance). On your SB, with one 3.7v battery, you should be using LR (Low Resistance) carto's and atty's. I would suggest nothing over 2.4Ohms if you want a decent TH (Throat Hit). Otherwise the higher you get in Ohms, the cooler the vape.

Now, I have stacked in an SB before but most people will tell you that it is dangerous and not to do it. If you want/need more voltage or heat out of it, get the extension tube and a Kick by Evolv. You can use your same battery in it and it will give you the Wattage (i.e. Heat) that you are looking for.

As far as the gunk that is in your carto's, the darker the juice, the shorter the lifespan on the carto or atty. Your best option is to clean them using the boiling method to try to extend their life. Dark juices in a carto seem to last for about a week and light colored juices can last 2-4 weeks.

 

[sandiegodude]

Thanks for the heads up. So when it states "1.5±0.2Ω" that means 1.5 ohms + or minus .2 variance?
Makes sense.
So where is the sweet spot with ohms and the silver bullet?
BTW these are dual coils if that makes a difference.
THANKS!

 

[Roary]

To be perfectly honest, your sweet spot is going to be different than mine. In my SB I only ever stacked. Which meant I was running 6v or thereabouts all the time. I found that with a 3.0 ohm carto the vape was warmer than what I liked. So I decided to go with a LT like clone so I could fine tune my preferences with its variable voltage. I found that most things that are around 2.4-2.5ohms I like to vape them about 4.0-4.7 volts. If I am using a 3ohm carto I usually bump it up to about 5volts. So it varies from person to person.

One other thing you could do, is get a eGO Twist (variable voltage eGO battery) and try it out. It may not have the power to run a 1.5ohm DCT (dual coil) though. But the batteries themselves are cheap, around $20 +/- $5 but you will need a charger for it as well.

 

[djwyman]

the thing you have to remember about a dual coil carto is it is not actually 1.5 ohms, it is actually 2 3.0ohm coils that meter out to a final ohm of 1.5 I would suggest trying a 1.7ohm single coil carto and see if you like it better. also you said you are using the prepunched veraitey which have rather tiny holes...maybe try making the holes a little bigger to see if that gets rid of your clogging issues. That or try a juice with more pg than vg as pg is thinner than vg is.

 

[tj99959]

Thanks for the heads up. So when it states "1.5±0.2Ω" that means 1.5 ohms + or minus .2 variance?
Makes sense.
So where is the sweet spot with ohms and the silver bullet?
BTW these are dual coils if that makes a difference.
THANKS!

Personal opinion but there is no sweet spot with a dual coil on a 3.7v SB. A single coil carto will blow a DCC out of the water at that voltage.
My SB is the platform that I use for direct dripping. So my numbers will be a little off for using a carto. What I try for is 7.5 watts with most of the flavors that I use, which equates to a 1.8ohm atomizer. A 2ohm single coil is as close as you are going to get to the same experience with a carto.

 

[WillyB]

the thing you have to remember about a dual coil carto is it is not actually 1.5 ohms, it is actually 2 3.0ohm coils that meter out to a final ohm of 1.5

They most certainly are actually 1.5Ω. No matter what the combination is, series, parallel, both, one coil or ten, the watts consumed are identical if your meter reads the combo as 1.5Ω.

 

[sandiegodude]

the holes in the cartomizers are there for the juice to get sucked in via tank correct? if so, how would that open the draw? there is no shortage of juice, it seems that the air intake is what gets clogged.

 

[djwyman]

They most certainly are actually 1.5Ω. No matter what the combination is, series, parallel, both, one coil or ten, the watts consumed are identical if your meter reads the combo as 1.5Ω.

but they do not vape like a 1.5ohm single coil is what I am getting at. They vape like 2 3 ohm coils which is why they do not work well on a 3.7v device. which is why myself as well as tj99959 both suggested going to single coil LR.

 

[djwyman]

the holes in the cartomizers are there for the juice to get sucked in via tank correct? if so, how would that open the draw? there is no shortage of juice, it seems that the air intake is what gets clogged.

it wont really change the draw but if the air intake holes are what is getting clogged then it may be the opposite of what I said...you may be getting to much juice in...though another thing to check is to see if you are tightening the carto down to much on to the device which is causing you to not get air flow.

 

[sandiegodude]

So you suggest I get a single coil 1.5ohm carto for the tanks and SB? Would that help with the clogging?

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Also agree. On my 3.7 Don and Kgo ST 1.7 or Boge 2.0 single coil are perfect. Dual coil meant for higher voltage.
With carto+ tank carto lasting before tight draw begins:
light juice= 2 weeks (80-90 ml)
dark juice= 1 week (50-60 ml)
Vaping 60/ 40 and 70/ 30 PG/ VG.

 

[djwyman]

So you suggest I get a single coil 1.5ohm carto for the tanks and SB? Would that help with the clogging?

they don't make a single coil carto at 1.5ohm but they do make 1.7 and 2.0 ohm single coils which will be a warmer more with more throat hit vape than the dual coil 1.5s at 3.7v

 

[Baditude]

So you suggest I get a single coil 1.5ohm carto for the tanks and SB? Would that help with the clogging?

The ohm rating will have nothing to do with your carto clogging up. The ohm rating only tells you how hot your heating coil will get to vaporize your juice.

Part of you clogging issue is the juice you are using, and part of it is just the nature of the beast (polyfill clogging up). Since you are obviously a heavy vapor from your history, you will just have to put up with frequently changing out your cartomizers.

The only other option I could recommend that you try would be try the Smoktek XXXL mega cartos. These are giant cartomizers that hold around 4-5 ml. They do use a polyfill, but it is different than what is used in the smaller carto. These are stand alone units, you don't put them in a tank. They are also dual coils.

I tried a couple when I first got my Silver Bullet and BB about 3 months ago. I did like them, but decided to go with tanks instead. You can get them from AltSmoke. I actually did a review of them here: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-dual-coil-xxxxl-4xl-cartomizer-altsmoke.html

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[sandiegodude]

Those 4xL look pretty sweet. Can I pre-fill them? These would be perfect for parties/plane rides etc as long as I can have a backup prejuiced and ready.

 

[tj99959]

They most certainly are actually 1.5Ω. No matter what the combination is, series, parallel, both, one coil or ten, the watts consumed are identical if your meter reads the combo as 1.5Ω.

True, but also not true.
While you are asking the PV to deliver "X" watts, each coil is only receiving half of that total with a DCC.

 

[Baditude]

Those 4xL look pretty sweet. Can I pre-fill them? These would be perfect for parties/plane rides etc as long as I can have a backup prejuiced and ready.

You fill these like you would a regular sized cartomizer. I usually drip directly onto the polyfill at the top of the carto with my juice bottle. I stick a broken wooden tooth pic into the air hole for safety's sake to keep juice out of there. I found that they do work better if you keep your juice bottle handy to top the carto off occassionally, they can really go thru some juice. Other than that they are really simple and worry free.

The come with a rubber whistle tip like the mini-cigars have. If you don't care for those, some vendors sell round, knobby-looking ones as an accessory.

 

[sandiegodude]

THANKS DUDE!
Is there a FAQ on volts/watts/amps/ohms in respect to battys attys & cartos?
I think that is where I get lost in translation.

 

[Baditude]

THANKS DUDE!
Is there a FAQ on volts/watts/amps/ohms in respect to battys attys & cartos?
I think that is where I get lost in translation.

I think this is what you are looking for. Try to save it to your computer for future reference.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/sg-vapers/266496-vaping-power-chart.html

 

[djwyman]

not sure who made that chart but according to it most people vape in the redzone.