Need help with first RBA Micro build. KFL+ or Russian 91%

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OK so I ordered 32, 30, and 28 Guage kanthal only the 32 arrived so far and I want to do my first single coil microbuild. I have a Russian 91% and KFL+V2 anyone have any recommendations on how many wraps on what size drill bit I should start with as a first build. I plan on using organic cotton as wick.

any advice before I dive in? maybe how much or little cotton to use and how I know if I'm using too little or too much

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32 is quite a hi resistance wire for a micro coil. It maybe better to space your wraps with this wire. If your going to use a basic diameter bit like 5/64, and use a micro coil you will only get minimal wraps with the 32g. A micro coil is better with at least 8 wraps, but if you do 8 wraps with 32g your resistance is going to be super high. I recommend spacing maybe 5 wraps around cotton wick instead of micro coil. Or you could twist 2 strands of 32g together, this will lower resistance in order to achieve more wraps for a micro coil

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I did 7-8 wraps on 1/16 and I am getting 2.9ohm. is this too high the vape seems to be good to me but I don't have the experience to know how good the flavor vapor is because this is my first rebuildable just been using aerotank and nautilus and it is definitely much better then that.

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I did 7-8 wraps on 1/16 and I am getting 2.9ohm. is this too high the vape seems to be good to me but I don't have the experience to know how good the flavor vapor is because this is my first rebuildable just been using aerotank and nautilus and it is definitely much better then that.

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Depends on your device, a DNA30 would rock it, a 33 Hz chip will struggle, a mech would be terrible. So what you driving it with?
 
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I did 7-8 wraps on 1/16 and I am getting 2.9ohm. is this too high the vape seems to be good to me but I don't have the experience to know how good the flavor vapor is because this is my first rebuildable just been using aerotank and nautilus and it is definitely much better then that.

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If the vape feels good that's all that matters for now. Rebuildables are all about experimenting so go from there. Next time try the 30g, then the 28g. Try different resistances and eventually you will find the sweet spot. The only thing with micro coils is a decent length of coil. I like anywhere between 8 to 13 wraps depending on thickness of wire. You also need to adjust coil to the power of your mod, if you have a mod with a lot of power you can push some bigger coils. Good luck.

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Depends on your device, a DNA30 would rock it, a 33 Hz chip will struggle, a mech would be terrible. So what you driving it with?

I have a Hana DNA30 clone and I am loving it but haven't pushed it past 13W yet I think I want to try 1-1.5 ohm build next what Guage wire should I use on what size drill bit and how many wraps?

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I have a Hana DNA30 clone and I am loving it but haven't pushed it past 13W yet I think I want to try 1-1.5 ohm build next what Guage wire should I use on what size drill bit and how many wraps?

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OK, that explains why you were getting a decent vape! Unless you're swapping with a mech, dropping the resistance doesn't really help you with the DNA30. It actually can restrict you since it has a minimum voltage which varies a bit. It's spec'd at 4 volts but if your battery is lower than 4.2 it'll drop lower. I'd personally recommend trying a 2.0 Ohm coil first, because it's my favorite. It also works well with a DNA30 because the resistance is high enough to allow you a nice range. A 2 Ohm coil will hit 4.0 volts at 8 Watts. That's 12 wraps of 28 gauge Kanthal a1 on a 2.4 mm form (you'll find that a lot in precision screwdrivers as a slotted size).

Now, to answer your question, a 1.5 Ohm coil will hit 4 volts at 10.66667 Watts. If you go below that on a fresh battery, the DNA30 will become a very expensive mech. It just dumps the battery direct without trying to modify the output. Not to say it's a bad thing since I've enjoyed those coils, you just have to adjust the DNA30 down as you vape. So, you start at 10.7 Watts and then adjust it downward as the battery depletes. It'll flash at you if the Wattage you're requesting is too low. So, you should be able to hit that with about 8 wraps of 28 gauge Kanthal on a 2.4 mm form.

I'll leave the 1.0 Ohm alone for the moment, since I would suggest trying the 1.5 first.
 
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