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Smellybelly

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So lately I've been messing around with builds around .15 ohms. I tried a fused clapton using 24 guage wrapped with .5 mm all nichrome. It was good but took a while to heat up and the flavor wasn't as good as I expected. But really I've been in a rut. I mean dual 24 guage parallels are really where I'm at and I can't seem to get past them the flavor is pretty good. The heat is absolutely perfect and the ramp up is next to nil. But are there any other builds with similar vape qualities? The heat is probably the most important then flavor and ramp up time last.
 

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alien coil's are a good upgrade.
Some of the braided coil's are also really good and on par with alien's but needing less power, but might not be warm enough for you, i dunno.
When i get in a rut i just grab some thick wire and just wrap up a dual 4wrap and vape away:)

or do a parallel build, same as you did the fused but without the fused wire, i find that the clapton wire on these builds soften the vape up and make it cooler.
 

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Parallels are what I'm stuck on right now. The heat is lerfect. The flavor is good but I want more. Maybe I'm looking for a unicorn coil. The fused clapton where Alright but lacking the heat. And to me the heat is mostly what brings the flavor of the juice out. Basically I want a coil that still has the heat of the dual parallels but maybe some more flavor. I have never tried to build nor vaped alien wire coils but I would imagine the ramp up time is dismal at best.
 

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Parallels are what I'm stuck on right now. The heat is lerfect. The flavor is good but I want more. Maybe I'm looking for a unicorn coil. The fused clapton where Alright but lacking the heat. And to me the heat is mostly what brings the flavor of the juice out. Basically I want a coil that still has the heat of the dual parallels but maybe some more flavor. I have never tried to build nor vaped alien wire coils but I would imagine the ramp up time is dismal at best. Again this is all for mechs that are not series and yes I have some true 30 amp batteries so the resistance is ok.
 

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nichrome or thinner wire can give you a hotter vape... it doesnt necessarily have to be an elaborate coil. The surface area of the coil is where the flavor is most going to come from so that is why elaborate coils tend to have different flavor profiles just due to all the different crevices that juice can get trapped in other than just the cotton. If your 24 gauge clapton build took too long to ramp up and glow then try a thinner wire core... like maybe 26 or 28... this will allow you to achieve the same ohm level with less wraps increasing the heat of the vape as well as the ramp up time. Its like anything else the thicker the core the more power it will take to heat the metal, thus why fused claptons take about a second to fully fire due to the mass.... with thinner wired claptons your reducing the mass of the overall product increasing ramp up time as well as the heat.
 

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instead of using ribbon, use 36 or 38 gauge. Big enough juice channels but still ramp up relatively fast. 6 Wrap around a 2.5mm or 5 wraps if you are confident enough with your battery safety. Obviously 5 wraps is gonna be a hotter build. Meanwhile, if you really want to step up your coil game. Try out a framed staple clapton, I am not gonna go into too much details but prepping the wires before claptoning is the most important part. The flavor and density of the warm vape is sky rocketed compare a regular clapton. Also if you just wanna do something simple, parellel a regular wire next to the fused clapton, its also insane.
 
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I'm going to throw a massive wrench into the works here, because I'm convinced that the surface area of the coil is a red herring, and the difference in vape is a placebo.
Once your coils are heated, the initial juice that is on your coil boils off, the continuing process of creating vapor in your atomizer happens in the wick, because the wire is too hot for liquid to effectively migrate there, and there is higher atmospheric pressure from the vaporizing juice anyhow.
So I'm concluding that vapor production is more of a product of the heat flux of your coils to the volume of your wick.
In conclusion, if you are looking for your unicorn, dial in your desired heat flux with your favorite wire and start to experiment with different wicking materials.
 

Smellybelly

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instead of using ribbon, use 36 or 38 gauge. Big enough juice channels but still ramp up relatively fast. 6 Wrap around a 2.5mm or 5 wraps if you are confident enough with your battery safety. Obviously 5 wraps is gonna be a hotter build. Meanwhile, if you really want to step up your coil game. Try out a framed staple clapton, I am not gonna go into too much details but prepping the wires before claptoning is the most important part. The flavor and density of the warm vape is sky rocketed compare a regular clapton. Also if you just wanna do something simple, parellel a regular wire next to the fused clapton, its also insane.
Well i did the fused clapton with 36 and 36 5 wraps around 3mm. Perfection. Little less heat than the parallel 24 but still good. And flavor and clouds are great. I don't really care about clouds but it is nice. Thanks man, next I'll try some framed staples and see how that goes
 
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