Need some advice for gettin a VV

[Thomas Simms]

ALright well ive been using an ego/pen 510 for bout 4 years now mainly with ce2 or dripping. Ive been thinking about moving up to VV but dang their expensive!!! Is there a good product that can give an enjoyable experience without breaking the bank? I have seen the ego twist but i was looking for little more power that just seems like an ego with a adjustable resistor on it. Im looking for something up to or over 5v. Thanks guys

 

[nitrojuga]

There is the lavatube. Volcano is coming out with a new model in a week or two that looks pretty awesome. Those kits are around 100 dollars.

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[jayvolt]

To date I have A lavatube, a Darwin, and a Provari. I can tell you this. The lavatube has its place, and I am not here to knock any of the 3 but if it were mine to do all over again I would have bought a Vari first (simply because it accepts more atty/carto/tank combos) and the Darwin second (for dripping). I still maintain that for a beater mod the lavatube is not all that bad, but you definatly see where the extra money goes for the darwin/vari.

The Vari is solid enough to use as a frickin weapon, and the darwin is just beautiful and easy to use. Buy the best you can afford, thats the way to do it. If you are a tank person get a vari and forget about it. If you are a dripper and one is available get a Darwin and forget about it.

Just my 2cents

 

[Debadoo]

I haven't used it so can't say first hand, but a lot of folks are really saying great things about the ovale v 8. Runs about 30.00, has replaceable batteries unlike the twist. I had seen a vid for the v 6 and was totally not impressed, but now I'm considering trying a v8. They say it hits like higher volts at lower volts, and it goes up to 6.

 

[hmlessalky]

I'd say maybe a Twist or a Varistack kit. The Twist is getting great reviews and the Varistack is inexpensive even as a kit. Or you could look at a VV box mod. Maximum Vapors has some nice ones. A LT is also a great entry point and Apollo has all their Vtubes 30% off with the coupon code on the site. If you are looking to get in on the cheap, those would be my picks.

 

[myxomatosis]

I used the eGo with ce2s before picking up the vMax and am blown away. This thing has more power than I'll ever need. I picked up mine for $80. The Provari is highly praised too. LavaTube looks good if you're super tight on $$.

Research them all individually. YouTube PBusardo. That guy extremely informative and thorough with reviews. Seems pretty unbiased too.

Whatever you choose, pick up quality batteries for your device!

 

[Nomoreash]

ALright well ive been using an ego/pen 510 for bout 4 years now mainly with ce2 or dripping. Ive been thinking about moving up to VV but dang their expensive!!! Is there a good product that can give an enjoyable experience without breaking the bank? I have seen the ego twist but i was looking for little more power that just seems like an ego with a adjustable resistor on it. Im looking for something up to or over 5v. Thanks guys

The Ego Twist is a great value. 20ish bucks for adjustment up to 4.8v and works fine as long as you use single core mid 2ohms and up attys/cartos. It uses a booster regulator which is more than just a resistor. There are nicer choices but it's price point, ease of use and form factor is what makes it attractive. Unless you're going to use dual core or low resistance a 1 battery APV should be fine and there's a wide price range from the inexpensive Twist on up to the Provari and Darwin.

If you want more power and/or longer battery life a 2 battery configuration with a step down regulator is the way to go. These also vary in price, no reason to break the bank either way. As far as a tube the Vmaxx should be able to handle anything thrown at it with full range adjustment. If you want to go the box mod route there are many choices in the $50ish range and up.

A less expensive choice with the proper specs for what your using is going to vape just as good as the more expensive choices with the proper specs for what your using and unless that means dual core or low resistance that's most of them. What your usually paying for as the price goes up is durability, build quality and features.

 

[hmlessalky]

Nomoreash, I have to disagree with you on a few points. Dual coil and low resistance will work fine on a single battery VV mod. High resistance will also work on a SBVV, but at the cost of battery life. LR and certain step-down mods is a risky venture. The Vmax has been known to burn out LR single coils on their 1st use, due to the fact that the on pulse sends out around 8v. Dual coils above 1.5 and single coils above 2.0 are recommended on the Vmax. I know the Varistack only puts out around 7v on its on cycle and I have been using Resurrectors @ 1.7 with no problem at low voltages.

All the rest I agree with completely. A lot of the higher priced mods are so due to higher quality. That doesn't mean your LT is going to fall apart in a week, it just means it has less of a chance to last years.

Salky

 

[wseternmd]

I own the ego 1000 mah twist and few other mods. As far as a tough piece of equipment I would have to suggest the Twist I am using a 2.0 boge cardo in a mom and pop minisub tank. I am a heavy vapor and it is lasting a solid 10 or 11 hours at 4.2 volts. This thing has been dropped 8+ feet and still going strong. I would be afraid to drop my LT two or three feet. The best of the best has been mentioned above and I totally agree. I soon will be the proud owner of a provari, but I will stick by the twist as a solid VV that is hard to beat.

 

[13F10]

Buy the China stuff and "save" a few bucks. Feel good, be happy.

 

[bnrkwest]

The Twist is a great VV on the go. I use my Provari most of time but the Twist is good for out and about bnrk

 

[HawkeyeCS]

Nomoreash, I have to disagree with you on a few points. Dual coil and low resistance will work fine on a single battery VV mod. High resistance will also work on a SBVV, but at the cost of battery life. LR and certain step-down mods is a risky venture. The Vmax has been known to burn out LR single coils on their 1st use, due to the fact that the on pulse sends out around 8v. Dual coils above 1.5 and single coils above 2.0 are recommended on the Vmax. I know the Varistack only puts out around 7v on its on cycle and I have been using Resurrectors @ 1.7 with no problem at low voltages.

All the rest I agree with completely. A lot of the higher priced mods are so due to higher quality. That doesn't mean your LT is going to fall apart in a week, it just means it has less of a chance to last years.

Salky

Actually If you took a 1.5 ohm and a 3 ohm cartomizer and powered them at an equal wattage (giving close to the same vape), the higher resistance would be better for battery life as it requires less amps to power. Battery life is all about the amperage you are at not the voltage.... You should also get a little bit more vapor out of the higher resistance as well as the coil is longer and should have more surface area to create vapor.

 

[hmlessalky]

My bad, I mistyped my thought.

 

[Thomas Simms]

Alright well based on all the information I think I'm going to get the vmax. One question about it though, I noticed that it is a 2 battery design, so does it come with a charger that holds both battery's? Also where is the best place to get it? and best place to get twist?

The cheapest i found is altsmoke 28.69 shipped for the 1kmah

 

[Nomoreash]

For the Twist vapors-choice.com is the cheapest place I've found.

I haven't researched Vmaxx packages, afaik it comes with just the tube, some places might have it packaged though. If batteries and charger are needed I'd recommend AW IMR 18350 for the batteries. The XTAR chargers are popular, the XTAR MP2 will handle those batteries and as inexpensive. I've had a Ultrafire WF-188 for almost 2 years and never had a issue with it. Supertmanufacturing.com has both chargers and batteries in stock right and has reasonable shipping but there are many other vendors also.

 

[muzichead]

I know CCV has the Vmax with (1 pr) of E-fest batts for $95.50, Crystal Clear Vaping
You might check this thread for any other deals or coupons, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-smoktech-vmax-owners-tips-tricks-quirks.html

As far as the eGo Twist here is a link to the cheapest out there:
JOYE EGO-C TWIST MANUAL BATTERY - BLACK (650MAH) $20.99
JOYE EGO-C TWIST MANUAL BATTERY - BLACK (1,000MAH) $24.99

If you want to purchase batteries and chargers I would highly recommend this link, RTD vapor. They usually have the best prices, service, and fastest shipping. Not to mention they have never had a negative review here on ECF.....

 

[Quitter]

How about the TW VVV? Anyone have any experience with that?

 

[The Hill Giant]

Pardon my ignorance, but why wouldn't you want to use a low resistance atty with an ego twist? I was under the impression that lower resistance was a good thing for lower voltage devices. I'm still new to this, so advice is appreciated.

 

[tearose50]

LR on a twist is fine and not dangerous. It just might be a bit hot if one were to turn it up, though. That could burn out the atty quickly as well as scorch the juice.

LR was developed to simulate higher volt vaping (4.8 or 5 volts) on 3.7 volt devices. One does not need a LR on a vari -- as you can change the voltage. Also, as the twist is variable, it's not a low voltage device, imo. (to me low voltage are mostly mini ecigs). Before vari-volt and vari-watts we had fixed voltage devices only.

The key is to get the right voltage and atty/carto ohms combination to create the watts needed for your sweet spot -- or the sweet spot for that juice. It is often stated that most like 8-8.5 watts. Many like it hotter---even 12 and 14 watts--and I tend to like it cooler.

Just did a quick search and found this site that explains it all pretty well. It also has an ohms calculator.

Undestanding resistances, LR and HV

The beauty of vari -- is you can dial, use a screwdriver, push buttons or twist to taste. Atty resistances change as they age too--(often lower)--so having a vari helps one maintain consistency.

 

[hmlessalky]

The kit from CCV is nice, the eFest batteries are my current faves. Even with the power the Vmax puts out anyway, it seems to hit a bit more consistent with the eFests for some reason. Supposedly they have been tested as doing a better job in high discharge situations vs AW's. And I am pretty sure if you put my AW's in and switched them to the eFests I would be able to tell which ones were in. Haven't had them long enough to vouch for their durability though.

Also, I would pay the little extra and get one in SS. I just think it looks much nicer due to the different end-caps. Plus, I just love SS!