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washvap

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No problem:) Really does sound like an excellent shop. They really went above and beyond what most shops would do for a customer. Especially going on a forum to check out the thread you created. Your lucky to find such a great establishment. The speed in which they got everything fixed and ready to go is awesome.

Last I heard is that you finally found a good base (VG I believe) for your husband. Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you. With atties, it's always best to clean them after you've finished a bottle. The longer you vape it. The more gunk that build up on the coil. There is also the option of dry burning. But, that process is a bit tricky if your not used to it.

Mistakes do happen so you shouldn't feel too bad about the whole situation. I remembered killing 6 atties in one month because I didn't know what the heck I was doing LOL Maintenance for your mini is important. Although, I rarely clean mine as well. Maybe once every few months. You'll be fine once you get used to things a bit.

If you have any questions about atties or cartos then let me know. I'm not here as much as I used to be but, I will answer ASAP.

Hey washvap, great to see you too!! yes things are looking much better now, thanks to all the fantastic support :D

imagen this, late last night i recieved a message that the Pila alleady has been packeged and made ready to send it. i mean, i knew this was a good shop form reviews and been ordering there for over a year now and never had any problems. now that i needed help, they are there for me with exellent advice about the batteries and the charger, she even took the effort to read this thread so could follow the efforts taken on the mod-side, and all this with the speed of light.

it looks like it's a combination of things, lack of maintainence on the mini's and the Pila reaching the end of it's life. all this while we were also finding ourselfs another liquid, had a batch base liquids and flavourings witch were clogging up the atty's in no time, tried with it for a while but it all eventually ended in the bin. and on top of that also 2 atomizers ending their life...quess i just couldn't find head nor tails in all this..and i was stubbern, coz i didn't want to believe that the Pila is dying :facepalm:
 

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No problem:) Really does sound like an excellent shop. They really went above and beyond what most shops would do for a customer. Especially going on a forum to check out the thread you created. Your lucky to find such a great establishment. The speed in which they got everything fixed and ready to go is awesome.

Last I heard is that you finally found a good base (VG I believe) for your husband. Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you. With atties, it's always best to clean them after you've finished a bottle. The longer you vape it. The more gunk that build up on the coil. There is also the option of dry burning. But, that process is a bit tricky if your not used to it.

Mistakes do happen so you shouldn't feel too bad about the whole situation. I remembered killing 6 atties in one month because I didn't know what the heck I was doing LOL Maintenance for your mini is important. Although, I rarely clean mine as well. Maybe once every few months. You'll be fine once you get used to things a bit.

If you have any questions about atties or cartos then let me know. I'm not here as much as I used to be but, I will answer ASAP.

thank you so much!

yes its an amazing shop, got late last night (being a sunday!) another reply from her, coz i mailed her the result of some measurements she asked me to do. turned out that it doesn't sound good, it loaded the batts to 4.13v and after a reset they went to 4.17v. been experimenting a bit more on that, think that the charger jump to green too early, it also happens when you touch it, or put a glass on the table where its on... have to wait now for the new charger arrives, if the post is really fast then that will be on thursday. at least it looks like those batts that got a reset do preform better and last longer as well.

gee, maintainence on the reo is important indeed, as it was preforming so well for so long it didn't even poped into my head, still, i do know about it :glare: mine now has had the nail file treatment, a good rinse under the hot water, 48 hours to dry and a fresh dot of noalox...goodheavens, what a major improvement that is, way better then fiddleing around with a cottontip with vodka ... makes me wonder as i do want to buy me woodvill, how to maintain those, can't put that one under the hot water?

wow, you do have a good memory :) indeed, he does good on VG and not on PG. turned out that 5% or less PG in the liquid isn't a problem, so that opens up quite some possebilleties. Taking a VG base with strong flavouring, however so far it isn't really our thing coz of the steeping time it needs, impatient i quess :laugh: so mostly i take a VG premix with a strong flavour, put about 10 - 20 drops in the 3ml bottle and top it off with the base, works great for us as we like a more gentle taste now, and he now can enjoy all the liquids he liked but couldn't vape coz there was a tad too much PG in it.

yeah, it was that cheap stuff i bought back then. useually we can do bout 6 weeks before an atty needs a cleanup, with those i got in about 2, 3 weeks at the most some whitish goo covering the coil. that for as long i was mixing it with a premix, when i used one of their flavours it was within like 5 mins a snock effekt and it was done with the atty. it didn't kill them and it was easy to clean, but gosh it made me wonder what was in there...:facepalm:

oh those atty's were allowed to die :laugh: they were not new, just cleaned ones, dunno how often but that may be several times. in general we do ages with our atty's, they give us several rounds of about 6 weeks of use, well, that is ofc when i don't put bad liquids in it :D nowadays i just let them soak overnight in filterd water, followed by a boil in new filterd water let them dry for 24 hours, i don't even prime them anymore. when i take one in use i prime them with the liquid am using for a few mins and am good to go :)

:blink: this has become a wall of text... anyway good to see you around :D
 

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been testing some more and it looks more and more like my Pila is to blaim, besides that my reo really needed a good clean too. the batts being charged till 4.13v give a weak performence while if they have had a reset and got charged up to 4.17v or sometimes 4.18v prefom very very good.

however i have one question left. the shop told me it's not good for the batts to go as low as i did (3.55v) and that 3.7v is better for them, so now we are learning ourselfs to swap them around that voltage. so now it feels like they are empty so very soon...so i think i have to adjust my idea of about how long these batts (AW IMR 14500 600 mah) should last, going from fully charged to 3.7v. what is your experience on that?

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uuhh, those batteries keep us busy, aren't they? on the back of my chargers (yes, have more than one, since these batteries have tiny differences in size) it says: output 4.2v what i think is standard for 18650, 18330, 14500 etc. chargers. means: it should charge the batteries up to 4.2v. but batteries tend to loose capacity by aging. i started vaping 4 month ago, my batteries (18650, 18350) still do fine and charge up to around 4.17 - 4.2v. but i am assuming that in the future they will loose capacity (dunno, maybe in a year?) the question is more how: will it be a slow or a sudden death...

with the risk of repeating but since someone asked:

dropping batteries is a bad thing: the chemical cells inside get broken and the battery looses capacity or dies.

exposing to either heat (behind a cars winshield!) or cold (never let batteries in a car, when below 32 fahrenheit outside, wear them on your body) is a bad thing. it's normal that batteries have a weaker performance during cold weather, but they'll recover in spring time :)

while vaping, it's a good thing to stop the discharge around 3.7v. discharging batts until they do not perform anymore cuts their lifetime. a short circuit is a very bad discharge.

and i ask myself, how much my vaping behavior influences battery life, e.g. the difference of taking short sips compared to long deep double hoovering (inhaling two times while letting the power button pushed) ?

Trust The Squonk!

forgot: for comparison (in case you change to a Woodvil) - battery capacity is described with mAh, and i have different ones, a good 18650 should give me the feeling that i can vape from the morning to the late afternoon with one battery (i prefer to carry two batts with me than to squeeze a big one into it...)
 
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hehe, yes they sure are, well, lately that is, went without any problems for about a year. think i do about 6 months with a 14500 600mah, then they still work, just not as long on one charge anymore, haven't had one dieing on me yet.

yeh, we now swap them more often so that they don't go below 3.7v so for us that feels fast, as we usually went below 3.6v. havn't timed it yet coz first we need a new charger and see if the batts will be charged propperly. tomorrow a xtar will arrive, and as from tomorrow i can expect also the new Pila, that is if the Royal Mail and TNT can manage to be that fast :D
 

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tomorrow a xtar will arrive, and as from tomorrow i can expect also the new Pila

hmm, we can live with these herds of moody batts, but when it comes to chargers - it is more a man against machine thing - herds of chargers becomes more "them or us" (and they glow in the dark)

:?:

a bicycle dynamo can probably produce fairly enough power to vape, since vaping while biking (at home) is not so difficult like smoking while biking (i e.g. hated smoking while hiking up steep swiss mountains - very difficult to perform. no problem at all with a little vape on the way to the peak:2cool:

so this for complete power failure: all you need is a good hometrainer with a kicked dyno...

have fun with xtar and pila!

TTS !
 
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:laugh: indeed, if you can't thrust your charger... :glug:...on the other hand, don't thrust them too much :D

ooh those mountains in your country are soo beatifull, been there twice, really loved it. had some traditional raclette from a huge chunk of cheese, that was so very yummy.

ooh that reminds me, my love has a trainer upstairs...:evil:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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