Need some help Please!! Re DSE801 Pen Style

[Moleman]

Hi There,

So My mom brought this DSE801 Pen Style e-cig back for me from overseas - Made in China.
I recently quit smoking analogs and, of course, I'm in complete hell. I thought I'd give this a try, but the damn thing will not make any vapor and it's frustrating me. I guess the atomizer could be bad, which sucks because I've hardly ever puffed on it and it should be essentially new.

When I disassemble the atomizer from the battery, take off the cartridge and blow into the tiny hole at the one end of the atomizer (where it connects to the battery), then reassemble - it'll give me 1 hit.

I'm wondering if the atomizer is busted or if there is something I can do to make this work for me NOW. I have two batteries and they both seem to be working. If anyone can help, I'd be much obliged!!!

I have pictures, but it won't let me post urls yet.

Cheers, - Moleman

 

[breakfastchef]

Without more information, anything I say would be a WAG (wild assed guess). That said, as an 801 user, here are my thoughts.

First, atomizers do die; sometimes too quickly. You should have at least 3-5 on-hand.

Second, if your battery is not fully charged, you will get reduced vapor. Have a few (2-4 extra) on-hand.

Third, if your cartridge filler material is dry or drying, vapor production will be significantly reduced.

E-cigs are much more hands-on that analog cigarettes. If vaping is a direction you want to go, make an order with one of the supporting suppliers here on ECF for atomizers, batteries and e-liquid.

 

[kemuri]

Don't know if you have any liquid but if you have a bottle or know someone who has one, you might try dripping 3 drops inside on the atomizer bridge mesh itself and see if can get the atomizer to heat up and produce vapor. Since this is just for a test, don't bother putting the cart back on. Just replace the whistle tip (or round top) and see if your 801 fires up.

 

[Moleman]

So, when an atomizer dies, does it stop producing vapor altogether or does it still produce vapor intermittently? Because when I blow through the tiny hole, and reassemble, it will work for 1 puff. I guess, I wondering if there was any "fixing" the atomizer - like cleaning it somehow? Thanks again.

 

[Moleman]

I don't have any juice, just the cartridges and I've tried changing it out to another cartridge. When I blow through the hole, it seems to expell some liquid, then it works for the first puff - so it's almost like there is too much on it?

 

[Kate51]

First of all, welcome!
The 801 is a little prone to flooding if you have a too-full cartridge (a pre-fill would not be too wet) or if your battery is discharged a bit too much (not dead but not full power) OR if you are puffing too hard!!! which is the worst thing you can do. Make sure the battery/atomizer connection is tightened down correctly, cannot be loose.
You need to slow down your cadence a bit to allow the tip of the wicking to re-wet itself between puffs, the tip will become dry faster because of the heat and the action of puffing.
Then just take nice long puffs, and you only need to puff hard enough to activate the LED, or if you are using a manual battery (with a switch) pre-heat it just for a second then a nice long gentle puff until the battery cuts off.
Try all these things first, and if that doesn't solve your problem come back, there are a couple other tricks with an 801 sometimes necessary.
Big thing though is to not puff so hard, you're wasting your pre-filled juice, which could be critical unless you have juice to re-fill the carts with....we don't want any panic to set in. Slow it down, get the best vapor posssible. LOOOONG gentle puffs allows the element to heat to max = good vapor.
I assume you are not blowing through the mouthpiece end, if you are stop that immediately. To blow excess liquid out of the atomizer, you have to blow hard into the thread end. Atty flooding is easy to hear, it makes a "gurgling" noise when you puff it.
Good luck!
I've used 801's from the beginning, wouldn't have anything else. But as with all PV's, they can be cantakerous sometimes.

 

[WillyB]

I don't have any juice, just the cartridges and I've tried changing it out to another cartridge. When I blow through the hole, it seems to expell some liquid, then it works for the first puff - so it's almost like there is too much on it?

That sounds like the problem those are easy to flood, dripping into it, as was suggested, will only compound things. Blow thru it a few more times till nothing comes out them let it sit a while, batt side up to drain.

 

[Moleman]

I tried puffing slower and not as hard - I got nada. My batteries are also auto - no switch. I never blew into the mouthpiece, just the small hole at the other end of the atty (that hooks up to the battery. I have two batteries and they both charged until the green light went on - on the charger. The only time can get a little bit of a vapor hit is when I disassemble, blow into the atty and reassemble - then it gives me exactly 1 hit. These cartridges are pre-filled, but they seem really juicy - it gets a bit messy taking them off the atty while disassembling. So, it would appear my atty is just not working properly and never was - since I've yet to get a decent hit off the thing - with lots of vapor.

Thanks for the feedback. This is a great forum with some real nice folks.

Cheers, - Moleman

 

[MickiO]

Hi There,

So My mom brought this DSE801 Pen Style e-cig back for me from overseas - Made in China.
I recently quit smoking analogs and, of course, I'm in complete hell. I thought I'd give this a try, but the damn thing will not make any vapor and it's frustrating me. I guess the atomizer could be bad, which sucks because I've hardly ever puffed on it and it should be essentially new.

When I disassemble the atomizer from the battery, take off the cartridge and blow into the tiny hole at the one end of the atomizer (where it connects to the battery), then reassemble - it'll give me 1 hit.

I'm wondering if the atomizer is busted or if there is something I can do to make this work for me NOW. I have two batteries and they both seem to be working. If anyone can help, I'd be much obliged!!!

I have pictures, but it won't let me post urls yet.

. Cheers, - Moleman

New atomizers need to be primed really good with e-liquid to get going, They can even appear to be totally dead at first and need to be brought to life. You can do this by placing e-liquid directly into the atomizer 3-4 drops at a time, flooding it, then blowing it out from the battery end onto a paper towel, then take a puff and exhale it, don't inhale (it's got primer junk on it, you got get burned off). .Drip some more into it, try puffing on it, If it's still not going good, blow it out and keep re-peating until it does, can take quite awhile sometimes.


I had the same issue with pre-filled carts on my dse801, so I got some e-liquid, took out the cartridge filling and .rinsed it out under the faucet really good and then dried it good with paper towel.


Put a little liquid into the cart, then replace the filling and use tweezers to press the filling up & down to soak up the liquid, then top off the cart with more liquid till it looks wet, like a slushy, but not a pool.


~Or~ If you don't have any e-liquid right now, you can take the filling out, and use a paper towel to pat the filling slightly to get some of that excess liquid off and replace it.


Sometimes carts come so full and too wet to actually produce vape, air needs to get through the filling, to get the thing going. Your carts may be too full and too thick to vape through, so I'd try using the paper towel to get some of it out and order some e-liquid first chance you can.


You can always rinse out and re-use carts, and fill them yourself. That's what I do, for this VERY reason, it's too hard to get the pre-filled carts going right out of the package..


I hope this helps,.


Also, you can test the atomizer with a multi-meter/voltmeter, Plus meter on volts, and place the red (+) end in the center of the atomizer, and placing the black (-) end on the inside threads. It should read around 3.3 of 3.8. .If you get really high numbers, or your atty is weak. If you get all zero's, she's dead.....


Or, if you have a push button battery type, you can test it by taking the mouth piece off, and listening for the atomizer next to your ear, you should hear crackling sound..

 

[Moleman]

I'll try that, thanks!

 

[Parmacrafter]

I am guessing you got dry cartridges. It sounds to me like when you blow through the tiny hole in the atomizer you are blowing back the little bit of fluid that was already in the atomizer. Your cartridge should be full of white polyfil stuffing material and that stuffing should be wet. If you take a dry napkin and push it into that stuffing just a little and look at it is the napkin now wet? If not the cartridges are dry and you need to fill them up with E-liquid.

 

[ChesterN]

When trying to make it work fully assembled, are you jearing a gurgling sound ?? That will be the clear sign the atomizer is flooded - too wet.

 

[Moleman]

The carts are definitely wet. They ooze like crazy when I disassemble. I even tried the suggestion of taking out the stuffing and blotting some of the liquid out. But this didn't work either. I'm not hearing a gurgling sound either, but it does give me a single weak hit after I blow into the tiny hole in the atty. I guess I'm wondering if the atty is flooded, will it put out ANY vapor? and if the atty is broken, will it still occasionally work or does it quit completely?

 

[sattec]

Continue blowing and vaping until you no longer get that one hit, then start over by dripping three drops straight into the atty with no cart, just "tailpipe" it ...report back...I blew one out 10 times before I finally cleared it...

 

[Moleman]

Unfortunately, I have no juice, just the carts that came in the starter pack. But if the atty was working, wouldn't these at least provide a vapor flow? I get absolutely nothing. Looks like I'll have to order either a new atomizer or just get a new e-cig. This one has put me off the 801. Never used atty just won't work.

 

[sattec]

mole- did you blow it out 10 times and vape it until it won't give that one good hit? Your "heater" is working or you wouldn't get the one hit. You atty is flooded, it happens to 801's, you need to 'burn off" whats in there by blowing it back into the burn pit....you can squeeze the juice out of the carts, into a dripper and use that to drip with. You have bulk juice, it's in your carts!

 

[Moleman]

Ooh... I didn't think of that. let me try it!

 

[MickiO]

... it does give me a single weak hit after I blow into the tiny hole in the atty. I guess I'm wondering if the atty is flooded, will it put out ANY vapor? and if the atty is broken, will it still occasionally work or does it quit completely?

If you're getting a weak hit, then more than likely it's a good atty, but the bridge inside it could be too dry, do you have any glycerin? .You could use that to drip inside it to prime it with, drip a few drops, blow into the tiny hole in the atty, using a paper towel on the open tail-pipe side, then take a lonnng deep draw, without the mouth piece, (tail-piping), if you get puny vapor, drip a couple more drops and puff on it again, if still no luck, keep repeating still the vapor increases.


I myself am kindof a shallow breather and smoked for 31 yrs, so I have to take lonnnng deep draws to get an atomizer going, where as my husband, can simply take one quick hit and get vapor....the only way I can do it is deep and long drags or draws.


To answer your second question, if it's broken, it won't work at all, but since you've gotten weak hits occasionally, it more than likely just needs primed.


hope this helps....

 

[Charlie58]

Just a suggestion but if you have prefilled carts you might be able to take the filler out of one with a pair of tweezers and squeeze a few drops out in your atty to prime it and re insert the filler in to the cart.

 

[Kate51]

Moleman the 801 is a great PV, ALL of them take a bit to master the little things that drive people crazy.
It really sounds to me that you don't have the battery/atomizer connection quite tight enough. Sounds like the atomizer is actually wet enough. Try to just screw them together with a little more firmness, don't overdo it, because they can break with too much pressure, understand they are probably super-glued together in manufacture. I had one that had a goofy thread toward the top, it was almost a full turn too loose until I used a little more than normal pressure to tighten. Once I got it to work, that atomizer lasted a long time. Sometimes the threads are just a bit off, and while you're at it, check BOTH of the connection surfaces to make sure there's no burrs or maybe some adhesive or fuzz to prohibit a tight connection. They must be both smooth and dry of any liquid.
You really need to stock ahead with the "consumables", meaning a couple or more extra batteries and atomizers, and some bottled juice you can use to re-fill your existing cartridges before you can really get serious about using your e-cig.
The last thing you want is to get comfortable using it instead of smoking, and then having to go back to cigarettes because of lack of parts or running out of juice. The cartridges at first will use up quite fast until you learn to puff really long and easy for good vapor production.
Just calm yourself, sometimes we just get too frustrated and frienzied. This is do-able, and you're not alone.
You will be amazed when you finally get it right!!