Need some insight

[los8383]

I want to start making my very own e juice. I just dont know where I need to start. Any type of insight would be greatly appreciated:

1. What do I need and where do i get it
2. I see that there are recipes all over this place, which is great, but just need to know how its done.


Thank you all

 

[gjshaw29]

You tube is your friend lol

 

[blkhwk07]

Check in the diy section,I think under tips and tricks.

 

[gjshaw29]

You tube is your friend lol

seriously tho someone will chime in with a good answer to your question soon.

 

[Iffy]

Just hit your own link, read da stickies and then ask away. We're there to learn AND assist!

 

[los8383]

I found some great info guys thank you. But i am not finding a place to buy the actually nicotine... Any suggestions?

 

[blkhwk07]

Again, tips&tricks /DIY liquid/flavorings /3rd post down has links.

 

[JAY73]

If you are just starting diy then go to wizard labs he has great prices, and you can order pre-mixed unflavored base (ie 24mg, 70/30) for cheap then you can try diff flav
love peace & chicken grease...

 

[los8383]

Ok guys hopefully this will be the last of the questions on this subject:
I found wizardlabs.us for the nicotine and the flavoring. Was pretty surprised too see how cheap this stuff was, sooo:


the way they sale the nicotine is as follows:

100% USP VG
100% USP PG
90% PG - 10% VG
80% PG - 20% VG
70% PG - 30% VG
60% PG - 40% VG
50% PG - 50% VG
40% PG - 60% VG
30% PG - 70% VG
20% PG - 80% VG
10% PG - 90% VG

So since i AM A NEWBIE if I buy this stuff does this mean it is already ready to vap so all you hve to do is add flavoring? The lowest they sale the nicotine is 24mg but i wanna stay at my current 18mg. Is there a way to cut the 24mg juice?

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Ask as many questions as you feel you need to .
In order to DIY ejuice you will need supplies including but not limited to:
nicotine
a test kit to verify the nicotine you have purchased is at the concentration it is labeled
flavorings
plain PG and / or VG
measuring devices -syringes , pipettes , graduated cylinders etc
empty bottles
storage solution for all the above
an ejuice calculator - I use e juice me up

Before starting this endeavor , you must ask yourself why you want to DIY.
Are you not happy with the juice you have purchased ?
Do you want to save money?
You may spend a lot in materials and still may not be satisfied with the results.

I suggest you continue to research DIY. Have a full understanding of the dangers of handling nicotine.
Read the help section of the ejuice calculator until you understand how to cut it down to the target mg/ml ratio you want.

If you choose to take any short cuts you may not be happy with the results. Read up on the Box Elder fiasco here on the forums. Learn how to test your nicotine. Do not leave your health and that of others to a product that could potentially be mislabeled.
THERE ARE SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS TO DIY EJUICE !!!!!!! YOU COULD KILL YOURSELF AND/OR OTHERS !!!!DO NOT TAKE THEM LIGHTLY.
If the message in caps seems like hyperbole than DIY is not for you.

If you still want to DIY after you have an understanding of the how-to and the risk involved, take meticulous notes so you can repeat successful recipes. Much more to making satisfying juice than getting the flavoring and nicotine ratios right.
I can make vapeable juice after 6-8 mos. but I can't say I no longer purchase juice.

Above all , be safe . Have fun and share your experiences . Enjoy the journey.

Russ

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Wow, that place is really reasonably priced... You can google "diy juice calculator" and there are a bunch that will tell you the correct ratio to get to x% from y% (http://www.ecigexpress.com/ejuice-calculator.php)

 

[los8383]

gimmieshelter31,

Thank you for that answer. I have been looking left and right for info and you nailed it. I do want to start saving some money on anuit and maybe create some of my own stuff. I downloaded that calculator and cant wait to try it out. As far as the nicotine to purchase I can buy the 24ml nic and cut it to 18ml using that calculator right? I have started reading that calculator manual and feel a little overwhelmed. I know that I will get the hang of it. Im doing alot of research. I know that this is serious stuff.

Since you are knowledgeable on DIY, if and when you have time could you check out wizardlabs.us it sales nic, pg, vg, and flavors: From what im gathering you only need to buy the nic diluted in a USP grade carrier base fluid available as Propylene Glycol, vegetable-derived Glycerin, or customized blend. and then add the flavoring. in the correct calculations of course. but does this sound about right?

Thank you for all your help!!!

 

[gimmieshelter31]

Bear in mind los8383, some flavorings such as tobacco absolute ,you will need less than 1% of total to flavor with , others 20% or more . Therefore , with 24mg/ml nic to start , it is hard to achieve target of 18mg/ml if you need 25-30% flavoring .

I have no experience with flavorings from Wizard Labs so I cannot comment on ratios . I personally , would get at least 36 mg/ml nic to start . You can vape that if you wanted to without risking death and have some leeway with differing flavor concentrations.
Buy the flavorings you think you would enjoy. Buy smaller quantities to start. If you are not allergic to PG , get 100% PG nic or 90/10 pg/vg to start with. Add vg (can be purchased at walmart) to dilute. PG carries flavor well and has a harshness (throat hit). VG tends to mute flavors , has a sweetness of its own (slight) and makes huge plumes of vapor.
Aim for a 70/30 % pg/vg ratio to start. Go up or down when you find what you like.

You are correct in that nic and flavoring in proper dilution ratios is pretty much it . Getting it to taste like a juice you bought and like is the hard part . Some add vinegar , some add lemon juice ,others ethyl maltol ,yet others sweetener ,menthol crystals. Some a combination of all the above . Taste is subjective of course. What someone else likes , you may find horrid.

Read, read , read. List what you bought in DIY forum .Ask for advice . Try said advice.Then ....give it a go. Adjust to your taste .Remember to write down what and how much. Many tales of the elusive recipe that is not repeatable do to poor/no notes.

If you want to not be running to Walmart and Tractor Supply (they sell PG by the gallon). Get your nic , some plain pg, plain vg , flavoring ,empty bottles , and a few 3-5 mil syringes to start. If doing tobacco flavors, get some ethyl maltol (cotton candy flavoring is the same thing). Ask questions about the calculator and be safe . Be patient . Making juice is frustrating .It is also rewarding . You can save money but probably won't for a while. I have enjoyed learning . So much left to learn.

I'm still a novice at DIY though I do understand the whys and the hows. There are some very helpful vets in the DIY section willing to share their knowledge.

You are welcome and good luck.

Russ