Need some referal help, with ecigs for new vapers

[sam.8]

I love my ego. It was the tank, but ditched those two weeks in. With atties, drip tip and cartos.... what's not to like? Decent price, batteries are solid. Great starter gear. I agree with what was said earlier, I think the learning curve is important. I am planning on getting a reo, but likely at the six month vaping mark as a "woohoo" sorta thing. I like that my ego fits in my pocket at work and when out but a reo would be great for home and car. I think anyone who becomes invested in vaping eventually does have more than one kit for different times.

 

[Danesnpits]

I used to be a dripper but find now that I love carto's. My CE2 R4 mods are my fave, then the boge's and still the smart carts. I find that the 510 tanks are a hard draw and I don't use them often but still do. I do drip though when doing DIY, and can't wait to try some of my home creations on my Omega! 6v baby oh ya!

 

[NoizMaker]

What is the proper way to care for batts Noiz?

Really it depends on the battery chemistry, let it be LiPo or IMR or etc. Everything I know has been sourced directly from here Battery Information Table of Contents, Basic to Advanced and I urge everyone to read it once they are ready to know about batteries. It's packed with good comparative information on the most common battery types

 

[bmwjen]

um, can I trade your sphynx breeder friend a Reo for a sphynx?

ego-t is messy, flavor is drab if any, mostly tastes like plastic. The reviews suck.

 

[smokum]

Why don't you try (since they are so close), lending them a couple 510's and riggings.... since this was your original, its the one that you are most experienced with as a starter and allows you to offer real life tips, findings, suggestions. This way, you and they can test the waters to see if there is interest in pursuing vaping for them without an unnecessary outlay of cash. Then they can decide what to "upgrade" to if they wish to continue on.

This is what I usually do..... lend stuff (sometimes give stuff) to get others started who are interested. It makes me feel good doing it, and I never have to worry about feeling guilty "pushing" something I enjoy should it not work out for them. I'll usually make a deal with them that if they decide not to continue with it, to return it to me to help others. Same goes should they later upgrade and are not using it anymore or haven't paid it forward to another person interested.

LoL...... people laugh at me because I'm so for these things knowing how well they can work for people, yet I'm one of the ones who can't make the committed switch so far after 3 plus years. Oh well..... the ones I've helped and those who can overlook my own shortcoming make it all worth while.

 

[lelly]

ego-t is messy, flavor is drab if any, mostly tastes like plastic. The reviews suck.

This has been my experience with them as well (besides the mess part, never had a leak), but I know many that swear by them. I guess if you have never tried anything else then you don't know what you are missing WRT flavor? Then again I know some people who have tried alot of other stuff and still prefer the tanks. I think that the amount of vapor and convenience of use is of most importance to people who enjoy the ego-T, whereas I value flavor and warmth. I have tried the tanks a few times and I end up liking them for a week or so but the draw gets too tight and the flavor gets lost after that, even using e-liquid that has double the flavor. I have yet to be able to successfully clean one to the point where I can tolerate vaping it again. I put my personal opinions of it aside though and still recommend it as an introductory device to vaping and others seem happy with it. If they end up not liking it then it is only going to cost them another $10 for an atty or 5-pack of cartos.

 

[Pipeous]

I think the ego t is and was the ticket for me when I started out. easy to fill, lasted a fair while before needing to change tanks, easy to see when it needed changing, and battery lasts. it's a simple to use setup and works decent.

 

[Danesnpits]

um, can I trade your sphynx breeder friend a Reo for a sphynx?

ego-t is messy, flavor is drab if any, mostly tastes like plastic. The reviews suck.

hahahaha..just to let you know..I also am a breeder..I have a litter due first week in September..what do you have to trade thats worth 1250 bucks? hahahahahahahahaha Just kidding! I would never do that!! Or wait? Would I? PS- I wouldn't want a REO..there is so much more out there that I want though!

 

[4mehealth]

Personally, I wouldn't recommend a mod to somebody just starting. Get them a starter kit. Be it the 510/ Bloog/Volt/ eGo.

It's just a matter of preference.

I think the benefit of a starter kit is the minimal investment at the start. Something like the 510 or eGo is great because of the available options. They can go with atty-cart, carto, dripping, tanks. Whichever one they like. My opinion is to recommend the most versatile starter kit. Then order one of each (or lend/ give them one of what you've got).

Based on what you've said about your friend's smoking habit (ie Chain smoking), right off the bat I'd strongly recommend an eGo. That 510 will require constant switching of batteries and that gets old really quick.

As for my avoidance of mods, even though you can get yourself a complete roughstack kit for less than $100, I think it can be a little daunting to somebody new to vaping. Although the premise is the same, it could be viewed as intimidating and then there's the self-conscious part of using it out in public.

I think Smokum had the best suggestion in lending them your 510 kit. You'll be too busy on the Omega anyways.

Best of luck.

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Actually I'm in the same position as I had 7, yes 7 people, ask me for help to switch from analog smoking to vaping. That's quite a hefty responsibility and I didn't necessarily feel like sitting down with everyone and asking them what their personal preferences were. So in addition to everything that I had personally tried, from 510s to eGo-Ts to Reos Mods to 5V mods, etc. I decided on the 510-T kit. Yep, that's right the 510-T kit from Greenhouse One and at $33 per kit it was pretty hard to go wrong.

I don't think these are authentic Joye kits, but if anything they are a lot better than the seperate 510-T atomizers and cartridges I had ordered elsewhere. The tank seals are rubber instead of that hard plastic that's a pain to pull out, the atomizer did not come with any primer fluid and coming from someone who's used to vaping on a Reo Grand at 3.7/5/6V I was very, very satisfied with the performance of the 510-T. So much so that I've been vaping on it all evening. You can easily control the throat hit by varying your drags, while the flavor is a little muted it still comes through very strong.

Plus with the clear tanks, it's pretty much an idiot proof device that anyone could figure out in no time.

I'm distributing the first few batches tomorrow, I'll report back on Monday on how it went

 

[bobsyeruncle]

I always have trouble recommending tank systems because the leaking just puts some people off. With the Ego-Ts, the standard Type A atties do not have much flavor. I have not tried the Type Bs, yet (spent too much money already trying other stuff).

So, if you're looking for a new system:

If it needs to look like a cigarette, try the Smokeless Image Volt. If you're buying in Canada, Happy Vaper carries the Bloog.

If you're okay with something bigger (and you know heavy vapers should appreciate not having to charge their batteries several times a day), then the Riva 510 is a relatively cheap way to go. Or, look for an eGo. I bought my first kit from NicFitNation and they are a good source for eGo parts.

As far as a mod goes, I think the only really complicated thing about mods is settling on the right one. As a first system, a REO Grand or REO mini should perform as least as well or better than any of the other suggestions and should not be any more complicated. Well, right off the bat, you're spending more for the kit and then you need to source batteries, a charger, and atomizers + drip tip or cartomizers, separately. But then you should be laughing.

 

[Bdbodger]

If you start someone out on 24mg juice it might backfire if or when they start to get a sore throat . Thats what happened to me . I would say an ego for battery life but what if they don't stay with it and regret the price . Something to think about . I would say don't get a tank system but I got a Smok 510-T for someone who seemed to like tanks . They do work really well ( I got one for myself too ) . Different cartridge design no hole but it does have a spike and seems to be able to use the other type of cartridge . The cartridge uses a small piece of filler at the opening that is glued in . Two holes below that and a tank . I use a blunt needle to probe the outside edge of that bit of filler for a spot that is not glued and then into one of the holes . Just as easy to fill as a "normal" tank if you use a blunt needle . The bit of filler is in a inverted cap so you can remove and fill that way too .

 

[kingcobra]

Newbies don't know what they don't know, so the main things would seem to be to be price and ease of use. Pretty much anything is going to deliver at least decent taste and nic and it probably comes down to recommending the right juice being the most important thing here. The thing about tanks is that they are so damn easy to deal with, I'm not sure where this talk about leaking is coming from, I've never had a problem ever with that. The 510-t seems to me to be more of a pain, smaller tanks which have people filling them more often, but still that's not a bad choice. I wouldn't get people to order from China starting out though, they probably don't want to wait that long and if the order doesn't go through it would turn them off. I don't think it matters much what you give them though as long as you show them how to use it properly and they will at least start off pretty enthused, and then later they can make their own decisions and try out new stuff as they become more informed and sophisticated.

 

[Kams Cats]

If I was told a box mod was the best way to go when I was starting out, I would still be puffing on my cancer sticks. As it was, the eGo was huge and strange and I didn't feel comfortable at all out in public. In fact I did end up getting a 510 to take out and about with me.

Same thing goes with some of the cartos and systems. Yes I used the cartridges at first and did just fine with them. Then I went on and tried dripping and cartos etc. Again, if I had to be using syringes and learning all these different filling tricks at first, I would have not bothered.

So show her the different options. Don't be surprised if they want the simplest one at first. Even if it's not the best.

 

[EastSideToker]

i know my mom would have thrown my eGo in the trash.. the amount of issues with it .. leaks .. burnt taste .. burnt out attys ... in reality i put my eGo in the closet as i use my volt now... i am looking into a Reo, but until then i'll pick up a couple extra volt batts and maybe the pcc ..

Yes the carts need to be refilled quite often, but if you fill a few yer set for the day =)

 

[kalvinf]

Seems to be alot of negatives for eGo-T/510-T tank systems. I've tried the eGo-t cone atomizer and it is a muted, plasticy taste, but the eGo-T type B cylinder is much much better - available in SR and LR. The eGo-T type B I can vape on all day with good flavour and vapor and is not plastic tasting. HV has the cylinder Type B although just LR atm.

The 510-T tanks are like night and day for the small carts vs the XL carts. The small 0.6 ml carts end up with a really hard draw and getting very little vapor where the XL cartridges ease all that and are easy, easy to draw/puff with lots of vapor and twice as much juice too. cdnvapor has the XL cartridges and also the full 510-T kit. It's flexible for which batteries are useable for the 510-T - eGo/riva/etc or 510 mega or 180 mAh are all good.

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Aaaaahhhhh so that's what I had ordered - I can't believe I'm such an idiot and I didn't notice the difference!

The original 510-T cartridges I had ordered were a major pain to pop off the top and the draw was indeed very stiff. These XL cartridges with their soft rubber top are so much easier to handle, the top comes off so easily but still stays firmly in place if you shake it. It's also a lot easier to pierce initially.

Initially I was so worried about giving people 510-T kits because they were not very enjoyable, but after vaping all day on a 510-T with the XL cartridges I have to say that I was very satisfied and now I'm confident that everyone else will appreciate these.

The battery life was surprisingly decent too, I started vaping at 8:30am (very deep and long drags) and it lasted me until 1pm. Not bad for a 220mAh battery.

The 510-T tanks are like night and day for the small carts vs the XL carts. The small 0.6 ml carts end up with a really hard draw and getting very little vapor where the XL cartridges ease all that and are easy, easy to draw/puff with lots of vapor and twice as much juice too. cdnvapor has the XL cartridges and also the full 510-T kit. It's flexible for which batteries are useable for the 510-T - eGo/riva/etc or 510 mega or 180 mAh are all good.

 

[Chinner]

Hey Danes!

I have to +1 for the bloog/volt systems. I've got both my mom, and my gf's mom on the bloogs now, and they're working like a charm! Not to mention that system is responsible for my own 3 month non smoking anniversary! You can buy the prefilled wih nic from both companies and nothing could be simpler. If you want any info feel free to send me an email or give me a call.

Also, I strongly suggest not dismissing the Reo. Maybe not for your friend, but I know you'd like it. I took a chance and bought one, not really knowing if it would be my style, and I can honestly say I'm now completely in love with this thing now!

I'll probably be flamed of this, but IMHO, the ego system couldn't be more over rated.

P.s. Looks like the juice train arrived at my local post office today!!

Dave

 

[Danesnpits]

I know I wont be telling them about an Ego, and it's more a personal choice from my experience on my friends EGo, I just didn't like it. But the awesome advice is definately leading me towards the Bloog or Volt now. God I keep changing my mind, but I wanted to try a volt and bloog too! So if they get it, then I can and may end up buying it! hahahahaha Been a good discussion thread for sure!

 

[Chinner]

Hey Danes, just take a roadtrip here to Toronto for the next vape meet!