Need suggestions on flavors for a clone

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raccus

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What's up everyone.
I wanted to start to clone FLuffy Clouds: Morning Manifesto. Before I start testing all the flavors, I figured I would ask the community and get some insight/suggestions on what to try first. The description says: "Custardy Marshmallow with a Graham Cracker Crust." When I taste the real juice, it has a slight hint of cinnamon (possibly from the Graham cracker or standalone flavor).

These are the flavors I was thinking of trying first. I would love to hear other thoughts. Especially from people who have tried this juice before:

CAP - Cinnamon Danish Swirl
CAP - Marshmallow
TFA/CAP - Vanilla Custard
TFA - Graham Cracker Clear
FA - Fresh Cream
TFA - Bavarian Cream
EM 10% Diluted in PG
 
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raccus

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have you tried fa meringue or fa custard? They may help bring out the "fluffy" notes in this. I would be careful with a straight cinnamon, as they tend to be very strong. what about fw graham cracker? I haven't tried that particular juice, but I do like to diy. Good luck!
Thanks for the suggestions. It's been a while since I attempted this but I kind of gave up. I couldn't get the graham cracker note to POP. However, I've heard good things about FW Graham Cracker but haven't had the chance to give it a try. I do agree, the cinnamon can be very strong on the exhale. I tried to use cinnamon in low percents to bring out the graham cracker note, but I had no luck. Graham cracker seems to be a very subtle flavor.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. It's been a while since I attempted this but I kind of gave up. I couldn't get the graham cracker note to POP. However, I've heard good things about FW Graham Cracker but haven't had the chance to give it a try. I do agree, the cinnamon can be very strong on the exhale. I tried to use cinnamon in low percents to bring out the graham cracker note, but I had no luck. Graham cracker seems to be a very subtle flavor.
What percentage are you using graham cracker at? You may be putting too much in which would result in over flavoring and with that comes: smells good but can not taste. I use .25% and comes out wonderful.
 

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Agreed, I had my experience with over-flavoring. I started at 3% and went all the way to 8%.
How did it taste at 3%? You may need to go down even lower. In the art of mixing, sometimes less IS more..... ;) I had a butterscotch flavor that I tried at 15% first, then 10% and gave up due to it not even remotely close to the butterscotch flavor. After a while of mixing and getting a better understanding on how flavors work, I now have a wonderful butterscotch flavor. The percentage actually had to be dropped all the way down to 1.5% and after sitting for a 2 week steep it finally showed its beautiful face. That is a great case to show that less is more in some instances.
 

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How did it taste at 3%? You may need to go down even lower. In the art of mixing, sometimes less IS more..... ;) I had a butterscotch flavor that I tried at 15% first, then 10% and gave up due to it not even remotely close to the butterscotch flavor. After a while of mixing and getting a better understanding on how flavors work, I now have a wonderful butterscotch flavor. The percentage actually had to be dropped all the way down to 1.5% and after sitting for a 2 week steep it finally showed its beautiful face. That is a great case to show that less is more in some instances.

It was very subtle and sweet with a hint of cinnamon. I've used graham cracker In other recipes around the same percentages, but only to act as an accent rather than a main note. I will try to minimize the percentage and go from there.

Are there any flavors you recommend that would pair well with the graham cracker to help it pop more?

It might help to add that I usually sub ohm or drip.
 
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