Need to get this ball rolling....

[ceeceeisme]

I could use a bit of help here... if anyone would be so kind to provide some advise.

I just started vaping 2 weeks ago and quit smoking about 12 days ago and I need to buy a mod but feel positively stymied on exactly WHAT to buy.

I started with a Joyetech AIO and just 2 weeks in I am having problems with it. I received some clone coils and they are not working very good (overheating and spitting juice). I was forced to go to a local vape shop and get the genuine coils (which seem to be working alright for now) but they were pretty expensive. Canada is really expensive so I am shopping online in China. China is a long ways away from Canada and I know whatever I order is going to take some time to get here so I need to get an order in as fast as possible.

I already have a Joyetech eGo One (w/variable temp) on it's way to me from China - when it will get here is anybody's guess. It hasn't even arrived and I already have regrets because I think I should have just saved my money to get a good mod but what the hell... it is what it is.

So I'm looking at an Eleaf iStick 50W 4400mAh VW VV APV Box Mod. This seems to come recommended from several people around here. What kind of liquid delivery system should I get to go with this?

I see wattage ratings in the listings - it's all greek to me LOL. If I have a box with a 50W rating do I need an atomizer with the same rating (or less)? I'm gonna need at least 2 tanks so price is a factor. I think I am willing to pay up to $30 (US funds) per tank but.... which one(s)? Should I buy two different kinds so I can try them out? I'm not looking for a rebuildable yet - that's somewhere down the road (maybe next month lol). For now I really just want something that's easy to use and provides a nice MTL vape.

I know these advise questions are here frequently so I do apologize. I'm shopping on Fasttech if that helps. The iStick is just under $40 US which seems reasonable to me but feel free to suggest other mods if you have a better idea than me.

Bad bad nic cravings for the last 3 days - I'm feeling very insecure about my AIO. Panicky, almost.

 

[bnrkwest]

If you get in a real bind you can always go to local store and pick up something to tie you over until you package arrives. If you want to try a tank that takes coils and is also rebuild able I think the Kanger top tank is one that does both. I got one but haven't tried it. One of my fav tanks is a Kabuki, but it takes Nautilus coils. Some are rebuilding the factory coils but there is a fiddle factor LOL Have fun shopping! And congrats on getting off the cigs!

 

[djsvapour]

My friend asked me to buy him an iStick 50w. I wasn't so sure, as I remember more than a few problems with it.
Sadly, in the UK/Europe we are moving into a new phase of vaping history where some of us are picking up stuff just to be on the safe side. For me, I would discount the in-built battery mods.
The price of certain single-battery mods (interchangeable 18650s) is so low (and they're so powerful) that a 2-battery mod is more sensible for high power vapers or those who benefit from extended battery life.
For me, I chose the Sigelei 213 with all it's faults as I still have doubts about Joyetech reliability.

By the way, I find all Cubis & AIO coils spitty and unpleasant. I planned to give my tank away (PIF) buy found some 1.5 Claptons to use up. They're not very impressive either, but at least they don't spit.

 

[ceeceeisme]

If you get in a real bind you can always go to local store and pick up something to tie you over until you package arrives. If you want to try a tank that takes coils and is also rebuild able I think the Kanger top tank is one that does both. I got one but haven't tried it. One of my fav tanks is a Kabuki, but it takes Nautilus coils. Some are rebuilding the factory coils but there is a fiddle factor LOL Have fun shopping! And congrats on getting off the cigs!

Thank you for your thoughts, bnrkwest! I'll go have a look at those tanks right now.

 

[ceeceeisme]

My friend asked me to buy him an iStick 50w. I wasn't so sure, as I remember more than a few problems with it.
Sadly, in the UK/Europe we are moving into a new phase of vaping history where some of us are picking up stuff just to be on the safe side. For me, I would discount the in-built battery mods.
The price of certain single-battery mods (interchangeable 18650s) is so low (and they're so powerful) that a 2-battery mod is more sensible for high power vapers or those who benefit from extended battery life.
For me, I chose the Sigelei 213 with all it's faults as I still have doubts about Joyetech reliability.

By the way, I find all Cubis & AIO coils spitty and unpleasant. I planned to give my tank away (PIF) buy found some 1.5 Claptons to use up. They're not very impressive either, but at least they don't spit.

Thank you djsvapour. Some very interesting thoughts and observations there. I'll check out the Sigelei 213 as well.

 

[djsvapour]

Thank you djsvapour. Some very interesting thoughts and observations there. I'll check out the Sigelei 213 as well.

I'm not suggesting anyone necessarily buys it (I mean, it's a right mess, technically) but it's a big beauty and vapes VW perfectly and .. well .. at the right price. All my Sigelei stuff (including a vintage Mech) is fully working and that means a lot for us right now. Nothing I own from Joyetech (other than my evic mini) still works.

 

[Ed66]

You might also consider the Eleaf iStick PICO, it uses a single 18650 battery. As far as tanks, the Aspire Triton 2 is a good choice as well.

 

[ddirtyvapes]

IMO there are plenty of better mods for better prices and/or better/fuller capability than an iStick 50W or Sigelei 213. As @djsvapour pointed out, the 213 is a technical mess.

iStick 50Ws had all sorts of issues and I don't personally see the sense in getting a 50W, non-TC capable device in late 2016 when you don't really have to pay much more to get a full range of temperature control features.

I don't know exactly the prices you'll find these for but just off the top of my head, I would gladly and quickly recommend the Wismec RX200 series (200, 200s, or 2/3), Joyetech Cuboid 75W or 150W, Joyetech eVic series, iStick Pico 75W, or a Tesla 100W or 60W Nano over either of the aforementioned devices, personally.

iStick Pico kits come with a Melo 3 Mini tank which is very good and the coils are cross-compatible with those used in the Atlantis.

The eGo one is not a bad device though, even if lower powered and lower-function than many others these days.

 

[seminolewind]

Keep it simple. Eleaf istick is great . I'm on 2 years on it and it's still great. 30 watts is fine if you do not sub ohm vape. Then get a simple Aspire atomizer with a 510 connector. I'm talking about something people may call a vivi nova . Or an Aspire BVC. Then get BVC coils with ohms from 1.5-2.8. I like 1.8. that's that. Adjustable watts, and something easy to replace and works great. The other atomizers are more complicated and I'm not crazy about them.

 

[Continuity]

There's nothing wrong with the eGo One - seem like a pretty decent, good-looking mod. I don't consider the iStick to be enough of an upgrade over the eGo to be worth getting TBH, and I'd also stay away from built-in battery mods going forwards.

I'd think about getting something like a cheaply-priced VTC Mini on closeout or you can get a Pico or the OEM version for around USD$30.

Then you'd just need some 18650 batteries (at least 2 to start with) and an external charger and then you'd be set or mods.

The Pico/VTC would make a great main mod, and the eGo One would be a good 'out and around' mod, especially with a tank like the Kayfun 3 on it - the combo looks fantastic IMO, and provides a fantastic vape.

 

[Bunnykiller]

try dual using ( having that ciggie when things get rough)... trying to quit smoking cold can be really tough even if vaping is involved...

my favorite setup is the IPV4 or IPV5 with an RSST dual coil ( requires rebuilding coils)... been using this setup for about 3 yrs
( works for me)

 

[juskiddin]

I feel your pain @ceeceeisme , I've been vaping a year now and I my head still spins when considering new devices. (I'm a fellow Canuck btw...hello!)

It can be terribly confusing when first starting down the vaping trail. I agree with many previous suggestions and understand you are on a budget. Me too.

So, from a pretty new vaper and one who does not (yet!)build my own coils, here's my 2 cents...

My first e-cig was an eGo ONE, I bought a second one about 2 weeks after my first purchase. Although I experienced a learning curve with the coils, it got me off the cigs...in about a week. It's easy, "plug and play", no fiddling with wattage/voltage. It's a great "out and about" little device and in my opinion, produces pretty darn good flavour and vapor!

I've been using 2 istick 30W for months and they were an easy step up from my eGo ONES.

I also have a Coolfire IV paired with a Nautilus Mini...I quite like this set-up. The Nauti Mini is touted as being a good MTL tank, although at first, I found it very airy...even on the tightest setting. The Coolfire IV is available with external batteries so that may be something to consider (for future use?).

I've been looking at the Pico lately, it looks pretty great and the reviews have been good.

In a nutshell...something "plug and play", something with variable voltage/wattage and maybe a 3rd; a device with external batteries.

Thing is, vaping is a very personal experience. I completely understand working with a budget makes choices difficult. However, if you get 2 or 3 devices/tanks you'll not only have back-ups, you'll hopefully find what works for *you*.

While waiting for your order to arrive from China (*sigh*)you may want to zip into a nearby vape shop and pick up a simple eGo ONE. Mmm-hmm, Canadian prices are insane!

I wish you the very best of luck. Don't give up! You will find what works for you. Give it a little time.

Cheers!

 

[Grimwald]

I don't know what version of the ego one you are getting, but I like the original ego one style tanks. I use the clr coils which are pretty cheap and are also rebuildable. Those fit in several tanks like the tron-s, the 3 sizes of ego one tanks.

I would also recommend the toptank or subtank. I have the subtank and normally use the rba head (to rebuild my own coils) but also keep some factory made around.

 

[daviedog]

I keep hearing about high Canadian vape prices.
Are Canadians not allowed to shop American online shops?
Duty, Teriffs?
Istick 50 is a joke compared to the Pico. Check out our Labor Day sales..

 

[DingerCPA]

Welcome @ceeceeisme

I think you're on the right track. I've been at this for a couple of years now (certainly not a "long-timer" as many here are) but what *I'm* finding is that the TOPPER (tank/rda/rdta) is where the majority of (at least my) quests lie.

I don't care for a super-tight draw, and I don't need to fill a room with a klowd. I don't like a vape that is too warm, but I want enough vapor to "amuse" me.

The MOD/device/battery is "merely" a power source. As long as it can sufficiently apply power to a coil to heat juice to make vapor, I (personally) can't tell a lot of difference.

So, (a needle pulling thread ) for your MTL request, I would lean toward eGo ONE tanks or even Aspire Nautilus tanks. They're "quick and easy" - pop in a coil (let it get primed/saturated) - vape and go. From a device perspective - would you consider devices with replaceable batteries? If not, the Innokin devices (CF IV, MVP (Pro or something like it), even a VV 4) can run these tanks easily. I love the Target Mini, but it doesn't have sufficient battery life for me for a day.

If you're considering replaceable batteries, you'd need GOOD batteries and a charger. Devices might be the eVic VTC Mini/VTwo, iStick Pico. It sounds like you want "battery longevity". I have an iStick 50, but I've been a "lucky one" who hasn't had any issues - there have been a reasonable number of reports of "anomalies". I know, it's a lot of choices.....

 

[juskiddin]

I keep hearing about high Canadian vape prices.
Are Canadians not allowed to shop American online shops?
Duty, Teriffs?
Istick 50 is a joke compared to the Pico. Check out our Labor Day sales..

Yup, us Canucks can shop online from American suppliers however, our dollar is far from par. So unless it's reeeeeeally cheap it might not save us money.

 

[juskiddin]

Welcome @ceeceeisme

I think you're on the right track. I've been at this for a couple of years now (certainly not a "long-timer" as many here are) but what *I'm* finding is that the TOPPER (tank/rda/rdta) is where the majority of (at least my) quests lie.

I don't care for a super-tight draw, and I don't need to fill a room with a klowd. I don't like a vape that is too warm, but I want enough vapor to "amuse" me.

The MOD/device/battery is "merely" a power source. As long as it can sufficiently apply power to a coil to heat juice to make vapor, I (personally) can't tell a lot of difference.

So, (a needle pulling thread ) for your MTL request, I would lean toward eGo ONE tanks or even Aspire Nautilus tanks. They're "quick and easy" - pop in a coil (let it get primed/saturated) - vape and go. From a device perspective - would you consider devices with replaceable batteries? If not, the Innokin devices (CF IV, MVP (Pro or something like it), even a VV 4) can run these tanks easily. I love the Target Mini, but it doesn't have sufficient battery life for me for a day.

If you're considering replaceable batteries, you'd need GOOD batteries and a charger. Devices might be the eVic VTC Mini/VTwo, iStick Pico. It sounds like you want "battery longevity". I have an iStick 50, but I've been a "lucky one" who hasn't had any issues - there have been a reasonable number of reports of "anomalies". I know, it's a lot of choices.....

Lady Ding always gives good, sound advice

 

[ceeceeisme]

I'm not suggesting anyone necessarily buys it (I mean, it's a right mess, technically) but it's a big beauty and vapes VW perfectly and .. well .. at the right price. All my Sigelei stuff (including a vintage Mech) is fully working and that means a lot for us right now. Nothing I own from Joyetech (other than my evic mini) still works.

LOL... these are some valid points to consider. Okay I probably won't even look at the Sigelei yet - too soon for such a noob me thinks.

 

[ceeceeisme]

You might also consider the Eleaf iStick PICO, it uses a single 18650 battery. As far as tanks, the Aspire Triton 2 is a good choice as well.

Thank you for your thoughts Ed! The Pico has also been widely praised for ease of use, if I remember correctly. I'm gonna go have a look at this now as well as the Aspire Triton.

 

[ceeceeisme]

IMO there are plenty of better mods for better prices and/or better/fuller capability than an iStick 50W or Sigelei 213. As @djsvapour pointed out, the 213 is a technical mess.

iStick 50Ws had all sorts of issues and I don't personally see the sense in getting a 50W, non-TC capable device in late 2016 when you don't really have to pay much more to get a full range of temperature control features.

I don't know exactly the prices you'll find these for but just off the top of my head, I would gladly and quickly recommend the Wismec RX200 series (200, 200s, or 2/3), Joyetech Cuboid 75W or 150W, Joyetech eVic series, iStick Pico 75W, or a Tesla 100W or 60W Nano over either of the aforementioned devices, personally.

iStick Pico kits come with a Melo 3 Mini tank which is very good and the coils are cross-compatible with those used in the Atlantis.

The eGo one is not a bad device though, even if lower powered and lower-function than many others these days.

Oh thank you so much, djsvapour! There's some great suggestions here - just checked the Pico and is is affordably priced. Also the eVic's have been recommended as well and are also in my price range. I think I am getting close to placing an order here. Much appreciated!