Negative News Report in Palm Springs CA

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Chris54

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I'm watching the local news waiting for the weather, and what do I see? A report that the California Department of Public Health said e cigarettes pose a public health threat to (OMG the children) with no rebuttal or other opinion shown. I got riled. So I fired off a letter to the Department, KESQ the local TV station, as well as Gov Jerry Brown and my state assemblyman and state senator.

This is my very first post at ECF. I'm not even sure how this works. But I've had so much help here from you guys with my vaping "hobby" which I absolutely love. I just wanted to say THANKS. I use the Istick, MVP, Spinners, Vivi Nova Mini tanks, and Kanger T2s. I started with Vuse, then Halo G6, then Halo Triton, then went to 510/ego threaded for the freedom. Anyway, here's my letter:

Dear KESQ,
I found your report on the California Department of Public Health's declaration that e cigarettes are a public health threat to be very one sided and not objective, in that the report did not include any spokesman to give any different perspective on vaping. Here is a copy of the letter I wrote to the Department and cc'd to the governor and my representatives in the state legislature.



1/28/2015

TO: California Department of Public Health

RE: E Cigarette Declaration of Threat



To Whom it May Concern,

I am writing in response to your declaration that e cigarettes are a health threat. This does not line up with the National Institutes of Health’s survey of studies of e cigarettes that I read. I am not opposed to some reasonable regulation of e cigarettes and liquids. I am opposed to the spread of misinformation.

I have been an inveterate smoker of tobacco cigarettes for 42 years. I began vaping and within a month I lost all interest in smoking. I stopped smoking by accident.

It is true that e cigarettes are not risk free, just hugely less risky than smoking, and studies of nicotine alone have shown the drug to be relatively benign although addictive (thus nicotine replacement therapy is considered very low risk).

If you excessively restrict my access to e cigarettes, I may have to return to smoking tobacco cigarettes.

I am asking you to moderate your department’s excessively negative, one-sided, uneducated, and alarmist position on the subject, as e cigarettes are providing a positive health benefit to a large group of former smokers.

Sincerely,

Christopher Marshall
 

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Yeah, I went to San Fran last year with my family for spring break and was shocked at the anti-vaping culture that was there. I am from a college town in texas and we have 7 or 8 vape shops here locally, out there my brother took me to the one, in San Francisco. LOL WHAT! My wife was asked by a waiter at a bar not use her e-cig on the outside patio with no one around. Blew my mind, all I could think was; Isn't weed legal here? By their reactions, and by their I mean, almost everyone, that me and my wife were public enemy #1. We aren't discourteous vapers either. Made me glad to live in my hippy town in texas. Keep up the good fight!
 

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Yeah, I went to San Fran last year with my family for spring break and was shocked at the anti-vaping culture that was there. I am from a college town in texas and we have 7 or 8 vape shops here locally, out there my brother took me to the one, in San Francisco. LOL WHAT! My wife was asked by a waiter at a bar not use her e-cig on the outside patio with no one around. Blew my mind, all I could think was; Isn't weed legal here? By their reactions, and by their I mean, almost everyone, that me and my wife were public enemy #1. We aren't discourteous vapers either. Made me glad to live in my hippy town in texas. Keep up the good fight!

I never thought I'd live to see the day when a town in Texas out-hippys San Francisco. ;)
 

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It's happening all over the country.

I watched part of the local news/weather/sports this morning. They ran a tease for a story that will be aired in their evening broadcast today. A clip showed a doctor saying that e-cigs aren't FDA approved and may be a health risk.

These "news readers" have no clue. Someone hands them a piece of paper with writing on it and they read it.

I hope I remember to watch the broadcast today but I pretty much know what they will say.
 

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Hi, Chris, and Welcome to ECF!

Thanks for your efforts!

You can find out a bit more here:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...garettes-issues-report-lies-about-e-cigs.html

Interestingly, immediately after releasing that BS report, Ron Chapman resigned - amid lots of issues with the CA Health Dept.
California public health chief Ronald Chapman to step down | The Sacramento Bee The Sacramento Bee

GlANTZ and co probably offered him more money to keep spreading lies. Or maybe he went to work for big tobacco or big pharma -- BIIIIIIIIIIG money there, to spread lies.

Andria

PS: and welcome to ECF, Chris; good job on the letter! You really will fit in well around here! :thumb:
 
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Chris54

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Thank all you guys for the warm welcome. I really appreciate it. I do believe in making my voice heard about e cigs when I hear biased BS. I do feel e cigs are helping a lot of people to stop smoking and creating a lot of new jobs too.

Yeah about conservative Texas, I was in liberal Hawaii recently, and they have this vehemently anti smoking law that applies to e cigs too. I was outside at the airport and they made me cross traffic and go to the outermost ring to vape. Ridiculous. Won’t go back there again. California could go that way too. So I want to squawk.

Palm Springs, the smaller town where I live, is pretty common sense about it and easy going, so I haven’t had any problem with sensible vaping around here so far.

I'm a liberal Democrat but I am sure appreciating the Republican’s libertarian stance on this issue, both federal and state. I know Boehner has slapped down the FDA on squashing e cigs. And first to respond with interest to my letter was my state Republican Assemblyman. Interesting. That head of the Department of Public Health is already gone (thankfully) and just sounds like a crook anyway.

It’ll be interesting if I get any other responses.
 

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I'm watching the local news waiting for the weather, and what do I see? A report that the California Department of Public Health said e cigarettes pose a public health threat to (OMG the children) with no rebuttal or other opinion shown. I got riled. So I fired off a letter to the Department, KESQ the local TV station, as well as Gov Jerry Brown and my state assemblyman and state senator.

This is my very first post at ECF. I'm not even sure how this works. But I've had so much help here from you guys with my vaping "hobby" which I absolutely love. I just wanted to say THANKS. I use the Istick, MVP, Spinners, Vivi Nova Mini Tanks, and Kanger T2s. I started with Vuse, then Halo G6, then Halo Triton, then went to 510/ego threaded for the freedom. Anyway, here's my letter:

Dear KESQ,
I found your report on the California Department of Public Health's declaration that e cigarettes are a public health threat to be very one sided and not objective, in that the report did not include any spokesman to give any different perspective on vaping. Here is a copy of the letter I wrote to the Department and cc'd to the governor and my representatives in the state legislature.



1/28/2015

TO: California Department of Public Health

RE: E Cigarette Declaration of Threat



To Whom it May Concern,

I am writing in response to your declaration that e cigarettes are a health threat. This does not line up with the National Institutes of Health’s survey of studies of e cigarettes that I read. I am not opposed to some reasonable regulation of e cigarettes and liquids. I am opposed to the spread of misinformation.

I have been an inveterate smoker of tobacco cigarettes for 42 years. I began vaping and within a month I lost all interest in smoking. I stopped smoking by accident.

It is true that e cigarettes are not risk free, just hugely less risky than smoking, and studies of nicotine alone have shown the drug to be relatively benign although addictive (thus nicotine replacement therapy is considered very low risk).

If you excessively restrict my access to e cigarettes, I may have to return to smoking tobacco cigarettes.

I am asking you to moderate your department’s excessively negative, one-sided, uneducated, and alarmist position on the subject, as e cigarettes are providing a positive health benefit to a large group of former smokers.

Sincerely,

Christopher Marshall

Good for you!!
 

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I managed to catch the local news report on e-cigs/vaping last night that I mentioned in an earlier post. It was more balanced than I expected but still leaned toward the ANTZ point of view. They did talk to some vape store owners and allowed them to make their point about the positives about vaping.

The Ed Show on MSNBC had a segment about vaping yesterday also that was less balanced. Two doctors that basically said "We don't know, but they should be regulated". They also brought up the "formaldehyde in e-juice" which I think is junk science.

I'm a Liberal Democrat also and I'm also surprised that the Republicans seem to be on our side on this issue.
 

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California is a funny place. They preach loudly about being enlightened and not discriminating but the truth is they just discriminate against different people. Very hypocritical tone, at least it was for the 5 years I was there. So gay is good but overweight people should be hated. A particular target is smokers and vapors look like smokers so...
 
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