So I bought the nemesis clone a while ago, and recently though my mod has been giving me problems. It's seems that it only wants to work when it feels like it. Every time I go to use it, it sometimes just doesn't want to work. I'll have a fresh battery in and still won't work. I've tried all my batteries on my other mod and it works, I've even put my atty on my other mod and it works too. So I've come to the conclusion that it's the mod itself. The weird thing is, is my nemesis doesn't have a top pin adjustable screw only a bottom. So I went to my local vape shop and they told me it was different than the other nemesis. Also two weeks ago my mod was firing for 20 mins straight and destroyed my other atty, but I don't see any damage to the mod itself. Please help if I can't figure this out then I'm gonna have to get a new one and I don't really want to spend the money.
Nemesis problems!
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When I got my Nemmy, It would fail to work at times. It drove me batty. I finally figured out the problems and it's reliable. Here's how I "fixed" it.
1) remove the beauty ring. Unless you have a kick, you'll need to remove the kick ring AND the beauty ring. It's the thin ring, and when I first got mine, it was a pain to remove. It will shorten your tube to it's TRUE operating lenght.
2) de-burr it. I took apart the bottom switch (being carefull not to remove that little pin) and sand down the insides with sandpaper. I tried a nail file and everything else, but it would still misfire a lot... and constant fire.. until I sanded it down with 600 grit sandpaper (the area where that little pin is). That little pin would get stuck, and the whole switch would be "crunchy"
3) proper assembly. Put the battery in, atty down to where it needs to be, then screw the bottom in until slightly snug (don't over-tighten).. if I did it in the wrong order, it would screw up the "throw" of the bottom switch.
I personally think it a burr issue. Mine fired for that long too, and when I went to pick it up by the atty... I dropped my mod so fast cause it was HOT.
1) remove the beauty ring. Unless you have a kick, you'll need to remove the kick ring AND the beauty ring. It's the thin ring, and when I first got mine, it was a pain to remove. It will shorten your tube to it's TRUE operating lenght.
2) de-burr it. I took apart the bottom switch (being carefull not to remove that little pin) and sand down the insides with sandpaper. I tried a nail file and everything else, but it would still misfire a lot... and constant fire.. until I sanded it down with 600 grit sandpaper (the area where that little pin is). That little pin would get stuck, and the whole switch would be "crunchy"
3) proper assembly. Put the battery in, atty down to where it needs to be, then screw the bottom in until slightly snug (don't over-tighten).. if I did it in the wrong order, it would screw up the "throw" of the bottom switch.
I personally think it a burr issue. Mine fired for that long too, and when I went to pick it up by the atty... I dropped my mod so fast cause it was HOT.
+1 on removing the thin beauty ring, also the bottom pin is not adjustable, screw it down as far as it goes and leave it like that, if it comes loose you will get misfires.
Throw it in the garbage. Some Nemesis clones (maybe originals too, not sure?) have been reported to auto-fire somehow, seems dangerous to me. Checkout the brass GP Paps clone on Fasttech, I received it recently and it's got a nice switch.
Was your local vape shop able to get it to work?
Mechanical mods are a very simple concept. When the contacts connect, it fires. So if its not firing, there is no contact being made.
There are a lot of nemesis clones out there. The main ones are hcigar and ehpro. Both of which are as good as the authentic. You can get the ehpro for less than $25. I have gone through a handful of mechs, clones and authentic and believe it or not, my $25 ehpro nemesis is the best one yet. Just a solid design.
As for your issue, I would look close and find out why and where its not making contact. Worst case, toss it and spend the $25 for an ehpro nemesis.
For the record, on my nemesis I run 18650 batteries and don't use the kick attachment or beauty ring.
Mechanical mods are a very simple concept. When the contacts connect, it fires. So if its not firing, there is no contact being made.
There are a lot of nemesis clones out there. The main ones are hcigar and ehpro. Both of which are as good as the authentic. You can get the ehpro for less than $25. I have gone through a handful of mechs, clones and authentic and believe it or not, my $25 ehpro nemesis is the best one yet. Just a solid design.
As for your issue, I would look close and find out why and where its not making contact. Worst case, toss it and spend the $25 for an ehpro nemesis.
For the record, on my nemesis I run 18650 batteries and don't use the kick attachment or beauty ring.
This seems to be your issue.
Atleast mine FT clone got an adjustable pin so you can mount the atty flush fit while making contact with the battery.
And make sure you've removed the beuty ring & kickring.
I'm using the Brass nemesis from FT and switched to aluminium tubes for the look. Works perfectly.
Is the atty you're using the same one that it used to work consistently with?
My Nemi does have an adjustable top pin and most of the time, I have it a bit loosened. Just enough so the atty sits flush. However I have this one RDA (Omega) that seems to have a shorter 510 connector, so I have to tighten it all the way or else it doesn't fire. Drives me insane.
Also, the beauty ring... need to remove that. I felt so dumb after playing with it for two hours only to realize I never took that piece off. Live and learn.
My Nemi does have an adjustable top pin and most of the time, I have it a bit loosened. Just enough so the atty sits flush. However I have this one RDA (Omega) that seems to have a shorter 510 connector, so I have to tighten it all the way or else it doesn't fire. Drives me insane.
Also, the beauty ring... need to remove that. I felt so dumb after playing with it for two hours only to realize I never took that piece off. Live and learn.
There isn't a mechanical mod made that doesn't need to be "sorted" when you get them. The first problem with a new mechanical is what battery did they cut the tubes to fit? Every battery out there is a slightly different length. The Nemmy can be put together a lot of different ways, and also has a lot of threads on the switch which gives you a lot of options for batteries, kick, etc.
If it was working, and now it's not, I would suspect dirt in the switch. (or the top pin has been pushed down)
If the top pin is non adjustable I would suspect that you have a "no-name" clone that you found on Ebay. So who knows what else is not like a true Nemesis. However, even if everything is different, there should be no reason that the mod can't be sorted to work properly.
With the 1-1 clones most of us go to FatDaddyVapes and get magnets & pins to upgrade the switch.
If it was working, and now it's not, I would suspect dirt in the switch. (or the top pin has been pushed down)
If the top pin is non adjustable I would suspect that you have a "no-name" clone that you found on Ebay. So who knows what else is not like a true Nemesis. However, even if everything is different, there should be no reason that the mod can't be sorted to work properly.
With the 1-1 clones most of us go to FatDaddyVapes and get magnets & pins to upgrade the switch.
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The first problem is that this isn't a true Nemesis clone, it's what is called a "Nemesis Style" clone. It looks like a Nemesis, but isn't put together like one, and that's the first problem with trying to help you. Everyone here is going to try to tell you what to fix based on a Nemesis, but your parts are different. You may or may not have the same parts or the same problems the rest of us are familiar with.
That said, if ANY mech mod fires by itself and doesn't stop firing despite the button not being pressed then it has a button failure.
It's a mechanical circuit and that circuit can only be completed if the contact pin in the button is touching the battery. Either that pin needs to be tightened or the spring has broken and the pin isn't being pushed away from the battery when the button is released. It has to be one of those two things.
IF this has a Nemesis button then take the button off, press and hold the black ring down with your thumb, and tighten the silver pin as tight as you can get it. If it's already tight then make sure that black ring pushes back up with some force by the spring. If the spring doesn't push the black delrin ring all the way up past the top of the pin with enough force to keep it there then the spring is broken.
That said, if ANY mech mod fires by itself and doesn't stop firing despite the button not being pressed then it has a button failure.
It's a mechanical circuit and that circuit can only be completed if the contact pin in the button is touching the battery. Either that pin needs to be tightened or the spring has broken and the pin isn't being pushed away from the battery when the button is released. It has to be one of those two things.
IF this has a Nemesis button then take the button off, press and hold the black ring down with your thumb, and tighten the silver pin as tight as you can get it. If it's already tight then make sure that black ring pushes back up with some force by the spring. If the spring doesn't push the black delrin ring all the way up past the top of the pin with enough force to keep it there then the spring is broken.
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Most of the nemesis style buttons will work. The problem is in the manufacturing. With my nemesis, once I fired the button, a burr would keep it from returning all the way. That caused it to constantly fire for 10+ minutes. When you vape, you don't always inspect the mod to make sure the fire button goes back all the way. You may not notice it, and it doesn't beep to let you know it's still firing. Adjusting the pin will not solve the burr problem. When I inspected my nemesis, I didn't even feel the burr. It felt like the edge of a drill hole. However, that minute... almost microscopic.. burr would keep the button cyclinder from returning to it's unfiring mode. It drove me crazy. I kept adjusting it, and it never would fire right. Different batteries, trying different throw lenghts, etc. It even destroyed two magnets....until I sanded the cylinder. Didn't take long... I spent about 5 minutes sanding with 600 grit sandpaper. Since then, It's one of the smoothest buttons and never misfires.
It also solved the problem with the locking ring and atomizer getting stuck on the mod. things were machined right, but everything was so perfect, that it would get stuck. I used the same 600 grit sandpaper and made some ever so slight bevels on the locking ring (I can't even see the bevels). I also ran it once or twice over the threads. Everything works as it should, and it turned one mod (that I gave a 3.5 review rating for) and turned it into a 9.0. I wish I could change my review, but it's already been posted and calculated.
Give it a full clean and wipe it all down with rubbing alcohol, including the contacts. If problems still persist, might be time for something new.
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I don't own a Nemmy, but the Launcher was having the same problem yesterday.
I took everything apart, including the pins and the delrin. It turned out that our trip to the beach had got it filthy. There was sand in the threads, and there was a wet spot (coffee) on the button. I cleaned the whole thing with alcohol, used toothpaste with a toothbrush on the contacts and the spring, dried it very thoroughly, put it back together. It fires as perfectly as it always did.
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