Nemisis quit working

[regal55]

I have two nemesis that quit working. They were both setup with magnetic switch and Smoke kick. The have developed a very short throw. Each has over heated. They won't work without the kick module now either. Sounds like I need to rebuitd the switch with a better maganets. Agree?

 

[CloudZ]

Tighten the negative pin. As long as everything is clean and screwed together properly, there really is nothing in a nemesis which can fail. I don't see why you think the magnets are to blame.

 

[Cullin Kin]

Agreed^^ Yeah, I mean mech mods are pretty full proof without the kick in there. It just sounds like something somewhere isn't making contact or has a break in the chain.

 

[anumber1]

Yep. My screw in the fire button backs out occasionally also.

The short throw is the symptom when it has loosened up.

Screw it back in. Maybe a light touch with a pair of pliers to snug. Mine hasn't backed out recently...

 

[teddybear2566]

Use a dap of lock tight or super glue (very small amount so you can clean easy later)

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[crxess]

Clean Mod now and then.

All contacts, Threading, Individual switch parts - Even Battery ends and Kick Post
Test and confirm Battery quality - they do go bad

Magnets have no conductive value in a Nemesis

 

[regal55]

Clean Mod now and then.

All contacts, Threading, Individual switch parts - Even Battery ends and Kick Post
Test and confirm Battery quality - they do go bad

Magnets have no conductive value in a Nemesis

Which is my case. I checked all the basic stuff. I get 4.2V at the 510 connector when depressed. But the contact to the tank just isn't making it. Ordering another one.

 

[regal55]

It was a tolerance issue. I put on of those button battery magnets on the battery (button type) and it worked. That doesn't jive as right to me so I am going to seek alternatives. I keep a half dozen e-cig machines in rotation so its going to get expensive but I guess you get what you pay for.

 

[anumber1]

The nemesis should take a flat top battery without a spacer.

Try assembling it in this order:

With the top cap removed, attatch your Atty with the 510 post loose. Thread the Atty so that it is flush with the top cap.

Tighten the 510 post screw in the top cap so that it seats against the Atty 510 post.

Assemble desired extension tubes. No beauty ring if not using a fuse.

Insert battery. Pos end towards Atty.

Thread in switch. Make sure center contact of switch is tightened.

This should work unless you are using a non standard or protected battery (which shouldn't be used anyway).

 

[WilsonR]

I get the overheating issue on the fire button when I have it pressed down for too long. At one point it gets so hot that its hard to hold. I've checked it, made sure the pin was secure. Last night I had to pull the psring apart a bit so the pin would sit on it instead of being held in by it. So far so good, still overheats but I've come to the conclusion that its me taking too long of hits and too frequently.

If I space out my pulls then I think it should be fine. I just started trying this last night. We'll see how it goes. But I did get told to upgrade the pins and upgrade to magnet switch. Only time will tell. But my Hades is a 26650 and it doesn't get that hot. It'll get warm but thats about it. I'm running .16 on the Hades and .12 on the Nemi. I'm running an efest and VTC5 battery on the Nemi. No matter which battery I use, the heating issue exists. Which leads me to believe its just me.

 

[heateris]

I get the overheating issue on the fire button when I have it pressed down for too long. At one point it gets so hot that its hard to hold. I've checked it, made sure the pin was secure. Last night I had to pull the psring apart a bit so the pin would sit on it instead of being held in by it. So far so good, still overheats but I've come to the conclusion that its me taking too long of hits and too frequently.

If I space out my pulls then I think it should be fine. I just started trying this last night. We'll see how it goes. But I did get told to upgrade the pins and upgrade to magnet switch. Only time will tell. But my Hades is a 26650 and it doesn't get that hot. It'll get warm but thats about it. I'm running .16 on the Hades and .12 on the Nemi. I'm running an efest and VTC5 battery on the Nemi. No matter which battery I use, the heating issue exists. Which leads me to believe its just me.

Clean the whole mod including completely disassembling the switch.


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[lazyrobotlabs]

Sub-Ohming and some Efest batts don't like each other. I almost blew my hand apart vaping my nemmy with an efest in there at .35 ohms, so stick with the VTC 5. I also drilled the air holes under the lock ring out to help the battery get some extra breathing room

 

[Talonrsr]

Which is my case. I checked all the basic stuff. I get 4.2V at the 510 connector when depressed. But the contact to the tank just isn't making it. Ordering another one.

Push the black derlin in on the top cap.
Mine had an issues where the derlin piece backed out a little.
Just push it back in and it will make contact again

 

[SleeZy]

I get the overheating issue on the fire button when I have it pressed down for too long. At one point it gets so hot that its hard to hold. I've checked it, made sure the pin was secure. Last night I had to pull the psring apart a bit so the pin would sit on it instead of being held in by it. So far so good, still overheats but I've come to the conclusion that its me taking too long of hits and too frequently.

If I space out my pulls then I think it should be fine. I just started trying this last night. We'll see how it goes. But I did get told to upgrade the pins and upgrade to magnet switch. Only time will tell. But my Hades is a 26650 and it doesn't get that hot. It'll get warm but thats about it. I'm running .16 on the Hades and .12 on the Nemi. I'm running an efest and VTC5 battery on the Nemi. No matter which battery I use, the heating issue exists. Which leads me to believe its just me.

Sounds like you have a short somewhere. The button should NOT get hot.
Also if my mind doesnt fail my vtc only handles 0.14 and you're running .12?
Efest is rebranded panasonic 20A batteries so they can't hold up on that low thats also one problem. it's gonna vent if you keep using it at those levels.

 

[heateris]

I didn't know Panasonic had a 20a 18650 battery. Link?


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[Maurice Pudlo]

Your experiencing some conductivity issues in the switch, clean everything and assemble it correctly. If your unable to correct the issue this way I would say try a different mod with better ability to conduct the electric load you are asking of it.

Maurice

 

[Chelonian]

Yes...never think that high heat is just a sign of you vaping too much.

Something is out of whack.

 

[tc1]

I get the overheating issue on the fire button when I have it pressed down for too long. At one point it gets so hot that its hard to hold. I've checked it, made sure the pin was secure. Last night I had to pull the psring apart a bit so the pin would sit on it instead of being held in by it. So far so good, still overheats but I've come to the conclusion that its me taking too long of hits and too frequently.

If I space out my pulls then I think it should be fine. I just started trying this last night. We'll see how it goes. But I did get told to upgrade the pins and upgrade to magnet switch. Only time will tell. But my Hades is a 26650 and it doesn't get that hot. It'll get warm but thats about it. I'm running .16 on the Hades and .12 on the Nemi. I'm running an efest and VTC5 battery on the Nemi. No matter which battery I use, the heating issue exists. Which leads me to believe its just me.

You're pulling 35 amps with a 30 amp battery with that setup on your Nemesis. If you're pulling for longer than 5-6 seconds on that setup you are also going over the VTC5's burst amp limit. That could be causing the heat for sure.

Increase the resistance and see if the nemesis is still heating up. If it doesn't ... you were over stressing the battery. If it does, it HAS to be a conductivity issue with the mod (which as already stated should be easily fixed by cleaning every part on the mod).

 

[WilsonR]

You're pulling 35 amps with a 30 amp battery with that setup on your Nemesis. If you're pulling for longer than 5-6 seconds on that setup you are also going over the VTC5's burst amp limit. That could be causing the heat for sure.

Increase the resistance and see if the nemesis is still heating up. If it doesn't ... you were over stressing the battery. If it does, it HAS to be a conductivity issue with the mod (which as already stated should be easily fixed by cleaning every part on the mod).

Ever since posting, I've tried vaping differently. Instead of long pulls, I'm taking shorter ones. Roughly 4-5sec. By doing so, it does not overheat. Pretty much what you said was happening. I had a rollercoaster build done on a different atty and it was happening on that and it wasn't reading at sub ohms. Thats why I figured it was me. And sure enough I was right.

I guess it was more trial and error for me. Now I'm enjoying it more when I vape because its not always about the biggest cloud. Thanks to everyone who also responded. I still have to work on things cause I'm no where near perfect with this.

 

[tc1]

Glad you figured it out. You definitely want to be careful with batteries and not over stress them. Not only for safety sake, but longevity of the battery.

Using an ohm calculator is your friend when it comes to rebuildables. Something like Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator.

If you want to take longer pulls, just bump up the resistance a bit. Using that calculator you can see it wouldn't take much to fall inline with the battery specs. (Probably just an extra wrap or two).

Good luck!