Ok so from everything I've read, there seems to be the general conclusion that naturally extracted tobacco juice(net) does not contain any whole tobacco alkaloids(wta). Now all the discussions about that are somewhat old so I was wondering if any research has caused opinion to change about that? I know the extraction processes are different but the reason I ask is based on personal experience. After trying a very large sampling of different ejuices, and I have quite a collection, in different milligram strengths, in a variety of flavors including tobacco flavor, I never found any juice that truly killed the craving I had for a cigarette, they all would reduce the craving, take the edge off and allow me to not really be that concerned about wanting a cigarette, some I had to vape more, some less depending on strength but then I came across a shop with net and I decided to try it, now it's the only juice I put in my tank, I have a few different places I get it from now and the experience is always the same, the actual craving for a cigarette goes away completely, I can be sitting right next to someone smoking and not only not crave it but actually prefer my vape over it since I started the net juices. If it was only about a nicotine craving then any of the juices should work, so I'm very curious, is it at all possible some of the alkaloids come through with an net extraction process? Is there any way to really find this out or have any studies been done?
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And just as my own experiment I went back to my old power nano with the melo 3 nano tank that never felt like it could really deliver powerful enough hits compared to my new unit and even with that the net juice killed the craving, it was a cooler vape, got a little warm at 40 watts which is max for the nano, but still killed the craving, something I can't replicate with any other juice, although I haven't tried actual wta juice yet, that is my next experiment.
NET, or Natural Tobacco Extraction, does not result in many alkaloids (including nicotine) being extracted and is normally a process used to obtain flavors. WTA extraction not only results in the nicotine alkaloid, but some of the minor ones as well including nornicotine, anatabine and anabasine.
Yeah I keep hearing that as the stock answer everyone seems to give and I'm no scientist but what little i do understand about science it seems that with any extraction method I've read about more than just flavor is going to come out. I appreciate the reply but I tend to base things on my own personal experience and so far my experience is my net liquids are doing something no other liquid could and it can't just be flavor that's actually killing the cravings and all my juices have nicotine so that can't be it either.
Nope. The extraction method for obtaining nicotine and WTAs is completely different than the extraction methods use to obtain NET flavors. The amount of nicotine and other alkaloids is minuscule in NET extractions.
It would probably be more cost effective to buy it at that strength and just cut it with PG ( or VG depending on your preference ) yourself.
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Unflavored WTA Whole Tobacco Alkaloid 24 MG
mix it to your own juice at 5%, (9.5ml 3mg/ml + .5ml 24mg/ml WTA = 10ml 4.05mg/ml). You will notice a big difference. I would not go over 10% WTA. JMHO
Everyone knows my love for Aroma WTA. These days I vape it unflavored. Sometimes I cut it, sometimes I don't. Unflavored WTA is all I vape, it's fabulous.
Fairly much like vaping unflavored nicotine. A slight pepperiness, great throat hit. Some sweetness from the VG. But there is an additional taste and smell to Aroma WTA. I would characterize it as nutty or woodsy. You can really smell it in the bottle.
Aroma makes occasional batches of special offerings and they vary somewhat as to "taste". For instance the DVap variety which is extracted from a tobacco blend used by the creator of WTA, DVap. Vaping some right now.
But I'll reiterate, WTA has no relation to NET. It's not about flavor nor is the process of extraction related at all.
I used Aroma WTA for a few months. It really helped me with cravings. I would just mix 10% 24mg WTA @ into my juice(s) of choice... 
I'm lost at the moment, I'm getting some unflavored wta 36mg to mix with my 3mg juices but I don't understand your math here for figuring out the percentage to mix, can you explain how you reached 4.05mg please? I think once I learn the math I'll be good.
This calculator may be handy for you. Note that it is a Windows executable that must be downloaded and run locally. There are many ejuice online calcs available too.
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
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Good discussion and the type of questions I am pondering, er... struggling with is perhaps a better description for myself. I cannot offer much in the way of help for being such a greenhorn in all this other than sharing the desire to stop the combustion of tobacco without leaving it entirely behind. I am interested in what you find in your pursuit. Also, if I may, suggest a short hop over to the sub-forum Liquid Extraction From Tobacco and perhaps pursue your line of questioning there a bit as well. A bit slower paced but I have found some very experienced folks there who make their own nets, Str8vision in particular, and who are very helpful. Good luck!
Good discussion and the type of questions I am pondering, er... struggling with is perhaps a better description for myself. I cannot offer much in the way of help for being such a greenhorn in all this other than sharing the desire to stop the combustion of tobacco without leaving it entirely behind. I am interested in what you find in your pursuit. Also, if I may, suggest a short hop over to the sub-forum Liquid Extraction From Tobacco and perhaps pursue your line of questioning there a bit as well. A bit slower paced but I have found some very experienced folks there who make their own nets, Str8vision in particular, and who are very helpful. Good luck!
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(9.5*3)+(.5*24)=40.5/(9.5+.5)=4.05
It's early and I haven't finished my first cup of coffee. I have an online calculator I use, but I'm at work and don't have the link. I'll try to remember to post it when I get home. It works very well for mixing different juices at different nic levels to get the level you want.
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