New 510 JoyE e-Smoker

[GSmith84]

I read reviews and opinions on here for days until I finally decided to purchase my own eCig. JoyE 510.

I haven't been using it for long to make a really good assessment, but I'm hoping some of the more experienced eSmokers could give me some insights.

My wife LOVES it because it doesn't stink... and I really want to make the transition from analog to eCig but the whole time I'm vaping, all I can think about is wanting a cigarette because its not hitting me right.

I bought Menthol ejuice from RockyMountainVapors... it tastes like spearmint... and not in my throat... at the back roof of my mouth.

I also notice that even extending to the longest and hardest drag, I get very little hit of anything and so little vapor. Watching some of the video tutorials I noticed people getting what looked like really good hits or rather lots of vapor.

My biggest thing is... I've smoked Kools for almost a decade, exclusively... if I've gone days without a cigarette, I still won't smoke anything other than a Kool. I crave that menthol throat hit and I'm just not getting anything in my throat with what I've got.

My 2 questions are... what might I do as an eSmoker to get more hit and are there any premixed juices that give a really quality analog menthol hit in the throat?

 

[GSmith84]

I can't seem to edit the post... maybe its because I'm connected via Facebook... but its a Manual battery operated... I figured that might be information someone would want to know.

Also, in reading many other stories on here... I don't get a burnt taste as if the wick is dried... I just don't get much taste at all. (Also its 24MG Menthol)

 

[Scottbee]

OK... first, start here if you haven't already read it:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/43406-everything-you-ever-wanted-know-about-your-510-a.html

A well set up and properly dial-in 510 will give you a ton of vapor.. assuming you are using a decent liquid. I would guess that you have either a starved atty, or a flooded one. And Vegas money goes on flooded.

Remove your cartridge... remove the atty. Blow the atty out completely.. from both ends.. onto a tissue. Do this a bunch of times until you don't get any more liquid out of it (Did you get a lot of liquid? If so... flooded!). Put the atty back on.. put just a couple of drops directly on the tip of the atty bridge. "Tailpipe" the atty directly without a cartridge. Did you get a lot of vapor? That's what a properly set-up 510 will give you almost all the time.

 

[Lashes]

Well are you dripping directly on the atty? Thats what I do and I seem to have no problem pulling large hits. It also has to do with the tecnique uesed. I direct inhale to my lungs. I bounce the vapor off my tongue so it doesnt burn my throat, which allows me to take a big hit. A big hit is usually a hard and steady 5 second draw.

I noticed with the standard menthol it was harder to take bigger hits, and I'm not sure if its becuase there is more "menthol" in the first few hits after dripping, but they seem harsher and harder to hit good. But after the 2nd or 3rd drag I can start getting good vapes.

As far as the taste thing goes. Try not to focus on it "tasting" like your analog. Honestly, you will never find something that tastes exactly the way you want because this is different. I was a 1.5 pack a day newport smoker and had the same problem. Now I like the taste of my nhaler nuport high voltage (bigger vapes with the HV juice) better than an actual newport. The flavor is so much better now so yeah Your tastes will change after about a week of vaping. Just stick too it and keep trying. You'll get it

 

[GSmith84]

I plan to give it a good run... right now my biggest issues are the lack therof hit. Rare occasions I get a good hit but mostly its just flavor in my mouth and stale non-menthol feeling sitting in my throat, like I just swallowed a winston.

I followed the guide to your 510, it wasn't flooded I don't think, not much of anything came out after a thorough blowing through the atomizer.

I could see myself making the full transition if I could just get the throat hit right. I guess now I can see the appeal to all the *flavors* because I get a lot of taste in my mouth... that's going to be weird to get used to.

*I have tried dripping directly on the atomizer, but I didn't notice any difference.

Premixed menthol flavors you suggest (and where to get it). I looked everywhere I could find for the Nuport that I read a lot about but I couldn't find it.

 

[DC2]

The 510 gives a good throat hit provided you are getting good vapor.

But if you have it working right and still want more throat hit, you might want to look into using menthol crystals. Or you might just try some different brand of juice, because they can vary.


Also, high nicotine levels usually give more throat hit.

What nicotine level are you using and how many Kools did you smoke per day?

 

[lkim65]

I would try a higher mg nic juice. I smoked lights, and I use a 24mg juice...

 

[Lashes]

Welcome to NHaler! has the nuport in 24mg and in high voltage. I personally get the 12mg high voltage and than bring it up to 24mg using a 2-1 ratio of 12mg HV to 48mg concentrate (which is also available at nhaler) - I like the high voltage because you can burn it longer safer, and get a bigger hit, however the 12mg strength it comes in isnt enough so I have to manually bring it up.

 

[gooney0]

If you're not getting enough vapor I'd try to fix that issue first. Did you 510 come with two atomizers? You may want to try the other one and see if it works better.

I found it helpful to keep my cart topped off. Honestly for the first couple of days it still seems "lacking" compared to a real cigarette. The vapor is never the same as a lot of real cigarette smoke. I can't feel vapor in my lungs the way I do with cigarettes.

The upside is once you get used to it, many people prefer the vapor to real smoke.

I'd suggest playing around with it and trying another juice. Also try to experiment with your technique for best results. Slower, longer, harder or softer etc. etc.

I found it helpful to use it to displace some cigarettes rather than jump 100% to the e-cig. Over the last month I've really cut down the number of cigarettes smoked to 0-1 per day.

Some juice I've tried tastes good but just doesn't satisfy. Not all juice is the same. Some produce more vapor than others, and some have more or less flavor.

I can't recommend a flavor since I haven't had a menthol cigarette in 10 years or more. Many users vape a different flavor than they smoked though. Lots of menthol vapers who didn't smoke menthol and vise versa. Even more users prefer flavors other than tobacco and menthol.

I prefer the Marlboro flavor myself.

-Gooney0

 

[oldtechno]

If you've tried everything...change juice.

 

[Scottbee]

The lack of vapor is what bugs me. A healthy 510 atty, with a charged battery.. with a few drops of e-liquid directly on the bridge, should produce a very nice cloud of vapor.

You mentioned a "long hard drag". Don't do that. Try a nice, light, short drag and see what happens.

Honestly... with my 510.... I can make my screen disappear without hardly trying.

 

[kno]

they've said it all here before but to reitterate

drip on the atomizer, 2 drops
increase nicotine level for a bigger throat hit
and pull light snd slow for more vapor

if none of that works, you have faulty equipment

 

[thewomenfolk]

I'll tell you what'll give you a good throat hit....the Mint juice from Rocky Mountain Vapor. I got my first PV and juice there and he told me that the Menthol smokers tended to like the Mint better than the Menthol because it was stronger.

I love the Mint, it does NOT taste like Spearmint at all, it's a good mint flavor, and I can't imagine a stronger throat hit. Get one of his 10ml bottles first to see if you like it.

I sometimes mix a small bit of the Mint with something sweet like Pralines and Cream from Capella Flavors (I mix 20 drops of it with 4ml of VG....vegetable glycerine....for good vapor output). It's a good mix, a little sweet flavor with a good throat hit. Other times I just like the Mint all by itself. Good luck!

 

[OCVpR]

I also was a former menthol smoker of roughly 18 years. My 1st purchase was Totally Wicked's 36mg menthol, has a throat hit that will put hair on your chest. They are a bit pricey and most likely I will be searching for a lower cost alternative that will deliver the same. I have tried other suppliers liquids but not menthol and these latter were VG based vs the TW's PG. The VG vaped like a smoke stack but I couldnt feel a damn thing as far as throat hit ( which is more important to me ) The next time around when the $$$ is available most likely i'll go the DIY liquid route. I like the idea of custom blending to meet my own needs, i want to hit that "sweet" spot with all my liquids instead of playing the guessing game when purchasing diff vendors premix. Of course your atty needs to be functioning no matter what you put through it a far as liquid goes.

 

[GSmith84]

Thanks for the many responses... I forgot to come back and check the post later in the day.

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I really can't say whether my equipment is bad or not. I've tried both batteries and both atomizers with new carts, filling the cart, dripping on the atomizer and doing both.

The weird thing is... one seems to give me more vapor but I don't feel anything in my throat, the other puts off less vapor but I get some throat tingle. It seems completely random, but it could be the way I'm refilling it.

I also notice that I seem to get an overall better hit if I give it a primer puff, much like suggested with Auto Batteries, but mine are both manual. Maybe with the atty hotter its better for me.

Also, I'm not sure if it matters but I bought like 50 empty carts... they're all round. I should probably try the flat tip and see how that works.

Ignorantly I made a rather sizable purchase on just one type of eCig.

I am becoming more acclimated to vaping... the sensation, but it mostly drives me to wanting a cigarette which is odd.

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I used to (still am) smoking about 1.5 packs a day of Kools. I can tell right off the bat I can't stand the tobacco flavor after-taste I'm getting. Maybe its the juice but its quite nasty. I only enjoy Kools because of the cooling sensation in my throat... I could do without all the other (smoke smell and etc...).

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I plan on buying about several different flavors from different vendors... it just seems SUCH a waste to get an itty bottle in contrast to the shipping fees.

I bought all my equipment from HealthCabin... I liked the idea of having a Blue eCig... but now I'm finding that colors really don't matter so long as I can get a good throat hit.

Any supplier suggestions for 510 equipment? I think I'd like to stick with that type until I know for sure its not going to work for me, before I try another style.

 

[GSmith84]

Damn... I sure wish I could edit my post.

One Note: The long, smooth, slow pulls seem to produce the BEST result for me... but I do get an awful after-taste at the tip of my throat... like if you ever tried chewing tobacco and you swallowed a little.

 

[SupaFly]

Hi my 510 is not performing like everyone say’s in fact my RN4081 is way better, I have tried every thing on the form cleaning dripping and all but this 510 sucks of unmentioned proportions is there something that I am missing

 

[SupaFly]

Hi my 510 is not performing like everyone say’s in fact my RN4081 is way better, I have tried every thing on the form cleaning dripping and all but this 510 sucks of unmentioned proportions is there something that I am missing

 

[Kent C]

Hi my 510 is not performing like everyone say’s in fact my RN4081 is way better, I have tried every thing on the form cleaning dripping and all but this 510 sucks of unmentioned proportions is there something that I am missing

Definitely. If you've tried every thing on cleaning, then the atty is likely fried. When a 510 doesn't work, then the atty is flooded, you're out of juice or your battery is dead.

Blow out the atty by mouth only from the batt (threaded end) into a paper towel until you aren't getting any more. Fill up the cart to where it isn't bubbled over, put one drop of juice on the atty bridge and fire it up with a freshly charged battery. If you have another new atty try that - blow out the primer/shipping fluid first. And, sorry I have to say this but it's happened before, push the button down first, then take a drag.

 

[SupaFly]

HaHa I like the end there. I will have to tri the other atty tonight. maybe you can tell me if the fender makes crappy cigs I bought it from trueman-ecig.com maibe you know of a bad bunsh they made or somthing