New AGR Tank and Carto questions.

[Harryinny]

Hi all im back lurking the forums and have a couple of questions. First off, im going to be trying out my new AGR Carto tank soon. I use Mini Vivi nova's now with a K100 but they just dont hit well. Question, What is priming and how is it done the easiest. Question 2, The cartos i got are from litecigsusa and ar advertised as boge carto's. The box they came in dont say Boge, they just say Atomized Carto's on the side. I ordered the 2omh carto's with the pre cut 1.7mm hole thats about half way up the tube. Now heres the big question, Is the 2omh cartos good for my K100 with 70/30 VG/PG (K100 is between 4.5 volts and drops to no lower than 3.7). Are these Boge cartos or do Boge catro's come in a box saying Boge? Also, is there anyone around that has good experiance with this tank and can give any of your tips and tricks on getting the most out of it and also easy ways to use the tank and set it up?

Sorry for the spelling, Hope to hear some advice in this thread before i try to use and set up the AGR in a couple days or so.

Harry

 

[double_aa_ron]

Those are Boge cartos. My boxes say exactly the same thing.

I use the condom method to fill my cartos. It's easier to just show you a video.


I like to fill mine till you see e-liquid spilling over the filler material and then hold the carto from the top and shake the liquid down as if you were trying to shake down the mercury in a thermometer. This will force the excess liquid into the filler.

 

[double_aa_ron]

Oh, the low resistance cartos should provide a decent vape with a standard 3.75v battery. Smoketech offers even lower resistance cartos (1.25-1.75). I think you might get better results.

 

[N2rock]

Those are Boge cartos. My boxes say exactly the same thing.

I use the condom method to fill my cartos. It's easier to just show you a video.


I like to fill mine till you see e-liquid spilling over the filler material and then hold the carto from the top and shake the liquid down as if you were trying to shake down the mercury in a thermometer. This will force the excess liquid into the filler.

That's fine for carto only use. He's talking about a carto tank- and that is completely unnecessary with a carto tank

My method for prepping a carto tank. Fill the tank. Then put my finger over the connection end, and just suck air thru the mouthpiece- you'll see bubbles coming up in the tank, and ultimately see the amount of juice in the tank decrease. After about 1/3 of the juice has left the tank, the carto should be thoroughly wet and good to go. I then top off the tank again, and vape.

 

[double_aa_ron]

That's fine for carto only use. He's talking about a carto tank- and that is completely unnecessary with a carto tank

My method for prepping a carto tank. Fill the tank. Then put my finger over the connection end, and just suck air thru the mouthpiece- you'll see bubbles coming up in the tank, and ultimately see the amount of juice in the tank decrease. After about 1/3 of the juice has left the tank, the carto should be thoroughly wet and good to go. I then top off the tank again, and vape.

There is no right or wrong way to prime a carto as long as you make sure the filler material is thoroughly saturated. That way works for you, but I know others like to just drip into the filler and shake the liquid down. There is also another method that incorporates the "thingy" that comes with every IBTanked tank set.

As I said, the most important thing is to make sure the filler material is fully saturated. In this video at the 23 minute 30 second mark Mr. Busardo demonstrates what happens to a carto that isn't primed correctly.

 

[Baditude]

I agree with double_aa_ron there is more than a few ways to prime and fill a tank. Find a method that you are most comfortable with and stick with it unless it continues to give you problems. Then try another way. I also agree that the most important step is properly priming the cartomizer; how well you do this will determine how well that carto will perform for the rest of its life in the tank.

I use the drip and flip method of priming the carto. You can read how I do this in my blog article Best Way to Fill a Carto and Cartotank - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3710-5-cartomizer-tank-setup.html

I also incorporate the use of a wood toothpick in the center air hole of the carto when priming. Doing this eliminates the need to put your mouth on the cartotank and blow out the air hole.

Should you need to find a vendor that sells pre-punched cartomizers for a tank, here's a large list with direct links: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3295-2-sample-list-vendors-selling-pre-punched-single-coil-cartomizers-cartotanks.html

 

[N2rock]

Not to argue (well, yes I am), but the condom method is a total waste of time if using a tank. I'll guarantee that doing as I said above will work faster, simpler, and with less mess than the condom method. Don't believe me, try it out. The way I posted takes zero effort/time- 15 seconds and you're vaping. You gotta figure if 1/3 of the juice in the tank is gone, it had to go somewhere- that filler is going to be soaked.

My wife was doing the condom method for months, until I convinced her to do it my way. She did it one time and said "That's it? That's all there is? Are you sure?". She quickly became a believer and always does it my way now.

 

[New2vaps]

N2rock, I could be wrong, but I believe I read a post where you pretty much gave up on carto tanks due to bad taste, burnt taste, etc. Your method does work, its very similar to what some Ibtanked customers do. They use the THINGY method. You fill the tank, place it inside a plastic tube ( THINGY ) close the cap, open the cap, several times till most of the juice is inside the carto. However, why don't you try priming a carto using Baditude's instructions. Maybe your carto was being primed but too fast,etc. I say give it a shot before you give up on cartos.

 

[indoorsindica]

N2rock, I could be wrong, but I believe I read a post where you pretty much gave up on carto tanks due to bad taste, burnt taste, etc. Your method does work, its very similar to what some Ibtanked customers do. They use the THINGY method. You fill the tank, place it inside a plastic tube ( THINGY ) close the cap, open the cap, several times till most of the juice is inside the carto. However, why don't you try priming a carto using Baditude's instructions. Maybe your carto was being primed but too fast,etc. I say give it a shot before you give up on cartos.

Indubitably. While some may have told you it is not necessary to prime the carto before filling the tank. It is necessary. And if it isnt taking more than a few seconds, then you aren't fully saturating the carto. The filler takes a little while to soak up the juice

 

[New2vaps]

Indoorsindica, not sure if you copied my post by mistake or not. But my point was for him to try priming the carto via Baditude's method. His method, while slow, primes the carto correctly and allows the juice to saturate effectively.

 

[N2rock]

N2rock, I could be wrong, but I believe I read a post where you pretty much gave up on carto tanks due to bad taste, burnt taste, etc. Your method does work, its very similar to what some Ibtanked customers do. They use the THINGY method. You fill the tank, place it inside a plastic tube ( THINGY ) close the cap, open the cap, several times till most of the juice is inside the carto. However, why don't you try priming a carto using Baditude's instructions. Maybe your carto was being primed but too fast,etc. I say give it a shot before you give up on cartos.

My biggest complaint is carto's going bad after 2 or 3 days. I've even had some go bad after a day. Not burnt, but just tasting like a wet sock or becoming a stiff draw, or flooding. The longest I've had any carto last was 5 days. And the issue is they seem to go bad at the worst time- when I'm away from the house and don't have any gear with me to replace it.

Indubitably. While some may have told you it is not necessary to prime the carto before filling the tank. It is necessary. And if it isnt taking more than a few seconds, then you aren't fully saturating the carto. The filler takes a little while to soak up the juice

Oh really. So 1/3 of the juice in the tank just "disappears"? Not! It's inside the carto. 1/3 of the tank is definitely enough to saturate the carto. Why don't you just try it out? Saying a method won't work without even testing it out. C'mon, give it a try.

Hell, I'll make a youtube video this weekend just to show everyone that it does work. Seems that youtube videos are the only thing people believe these days.

 

[double_aa_ron]

N2rock I believe you. I'm sure it works. I haven't tried it yet, but I will. If it's easier than my current method and it works just as well then I'll change the way I do things. Vaping is fiddly enough. If there is a way to make it a little less fiddly then I'm all for it.

I have gotten pretty good at the condom method though. I can take a fresh carto, prime it and fill a tank in about 60 seconds. That's not just priming a carto, that's the entire process of having a tank that's ready to vape. Not a 2/3 the way full tank either--- a 100% full tank.

 

[N2rock]

Yeah, I hate fiddling with these things. Back when it was all new to me, that was part of the enjoyment. But 2.5 years now, I don't care to mess with anything, I just want it to vape and vape good everytime all the time LOL

My carto tank is the Triple V which has a thumbscrew filler hole. So topping off that 1/3 is way too easy. Been using it for 8 months now. And since I have to change the carto every 3 days (+/-), I've gotten really fast at swapping them out.

Day 2 of this ProTank 2, and will likely be my last day. I like the flavor, I just can't live with the lower voltage it requires. Gotta have my nice warmth vape.

 

[rogergendron1]

My biggest complaint is carto's going bad after 2 or 3 days. I've even had some go bad after a day. Not burnt, but just tasting like a wet sock or becoming a stiff draw, or flooding. The longest I've had any carto last was 5 days. And the issue is they seem to go bad at the worst time- when I'm away from the house and don't have any gear with me to replace it.




Oh really. So 1/3 of the juice in the tank just "disappears"? Not! It's inside the carto. 1/3 of the tank is definitely enough to saturate the carto. Why don't you just try it out? Saying a method won't work without even testing it out. C'mon, give it a try.

Hell, I'll make a youtube video this weekend just to show everyone that it does work. Seems that youtube videos are the only thing people believe these days.

That is exactly how I prime mine too
. I thought I was the only one. I put a completely bone dry carto in the tank and then fill the tank up, thin cap it, then I put a drip tip on the dry carto and I take a bunch of Dry pulls wile covering the 510 connector with my finger and wouldn't you know it the fluid in the tank instantly gets pulled into the carto do to the sucktion you create by blocking the 510 and sucking . actually if you suck too hard you can flood the carto very verry quickly I mean 10 seconds lol . Then when its saturated slode it down and top off the tank if you want .

Fluid dynamics my friend you make negitive preasure in the carto and there is positive preasure in the tank so naturaly the juice flow goes to the negitive and into the carto filer