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fpsking777

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Let me start out by saying that I'm 19 and have never touched an analog a day in my life nor do I ever plan to. I started vaping on disposables some were decent, others not so much. Anyway I decided i want to seriously get into vaping and have done my share of research and have determined that I will probably use Ms. T's bakery exclusively for my liquid based off the fact that I haven't seen anything but praise about her flavors and great service, I also like the fact that her liquids are made to order and don't just sit around on a shelf. I think I want to start out using clearomizers on a Volcano 650mAh inferno battery (yes I know they're basically ego batteries but I prefer the look of those versus the ego) my only question really is can anyone recommend a good clearomizer I read around and it's always down the middle some people love them some people hate them
 

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If you have never smoked tobacco before, why would you want to vape?

This is the sort of example the FDA is looking for to base their claims that e-cigs have the potential to lure non-smokers and underage people to use a device that is meant to be an alternative to smoking or a nicotine delivery device. You are unknowingly adding fuel to the burning debate on whether e-cigarettes should even exist.

I realize this is a free country and you are free to choose what to do. But I can not advocate what you are desiring to do.
 

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Exercise is a wonderful way to relieve stress. What your wanting to start is something I just can't grasp. I've heard people say they want to vape 0 nic so they can fit in with their friends. If you have to start a habit to impress your peers then maybe you might be better off with new friends. I'm sorry to the OP but I won't offer advice on this type of matter.
 

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Alright thanks man, now onto my second question my dad and my uncle have both been analog guys for years one smoke menthol lights the other tobacco light wanna find them a decent starter pack got any ideas there?
I'd doubt that any experienced or self-conscious member is going to offer you advice. You just asked your original question in a more clever way to get the answer that you didn't get the first time. I hope no one falls for your trick.

If your dad and uncle are interested in quiting cigarettes and are interested in doing it with vaping, point them to this website and let them ask their own questions.

I am done here, too. :glare:
 
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Dude if you want to vape then vape it up!!!! Start a storm with all the vapor. Ruin your computer from such massive amounts of vapor that fills your room. If you really want to vape the VAMO seems like a great deal. Be patient vaping can become very expensive. I do not own the VAMO I have 2 ProVaris some other note worth APV's. The VAMO looks cool and is VV and VW. Check out vaporjoes website, they find specials like once a week on these things for like $30. Get one of the new ViViNovas too, they seem to have all the issues worked out. Happy vaping!!
 

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Everyone is so much cooler then me because they smoked analogs for 30 years. I sometimes forget how much more experienced in life that makes you. You might have been smoking cigarettes behind the school before I was born, but I was doing CPR saving a life this morning before you have you first cup of coffee. TO PROUD TO HELP GO HOME
 

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If you have never smoked tobacco before, why would you want to vape?

This is the sort of example the FDA is looking for to base their claims that e-cigs have the potential to lure non-smokers and underage people to use a device that is meant to be an alternative to smoking or a nicotine delivery device. You are unknowingly adding fuel to the burning debate on whether e-cigarettes should even exist.

I realize this is a free country and you are free to choose what to do. But I can not advocate what you are desiring to do.

Let me premise my reply by saying that from reading through vape sites the last week I know your attitude is not unique and is almost a ... political stance the vaping community is taking en masse. Or at least many within are promoting this stance. With all due respect, I find it really Anti-American (despite your saying it's a free country, that wasn't in the spirit of your reply, nor this stance in general beyond your reply), and also duplicitous. It was ok for smokers to become smokers, even after knowing it was bad for them, but it's not ok for people who don't smoke to adopt vaping simply because they like it... much like how smokers did the same. Or drinkers. Or people who eat fast food and donuts every day even though its bad for them, and even though they are overweight, and even though it would be healthier to have salad and fruit.

Either this is a free country or it's not.

I appreciate your concern that the FDA is a potential threat to e-cigarettes, but the answer is not to shun everyone who wants to vape and isn't a smoker. For one, that will never work. Smokers cannot stop non-smokers from picking up vaping. But more importantly, you are discouraging people from becoming fellow vapors, and that means you are lessening the force behind vaping. The more people who enjoy vaping, the more people the vaping community will have to fight the FDA or any legislation that comes along... NUMBERS BRING POWER. And what's right is allowing people to do what the hell they want, whether the gov thinks it's good for them or not. If they can prove vaping is BAD, then recipes can be changed. If they can't prove it's bad then it's no worse than all the other things we are FREE to choose to do with our lives. If we find out different later, 20 yrs down the road, well that was our choice. No one can live a perfectly safe, perfectly pure life. And what fun would that be?

IMHO it is a gigantic mistake to treat vaping like it's some leper colony of fractured smokers that limped here from a tobacco addiction. It would HELP vaping if it weren't JUST comprised of smokers but of "mainstream" fans as well. And it's a mistake to make excuses for vaping. People don't need an excuse to have a donut, drink coffee or have cocktails. I don't need to be a smoker to want to vape. And I also am not a smoker (though have smoked in the past some as stated in another thgread).

The fact is, the more e-cigs are threatened, the more you need anyone who happens to come along and enjoy it. And the FDA using the fact that vaping could attract new users who aren't smokers is already a bull..... stance, as why should only smokers enjoy it anyway? It's the FDA that has their head up their a$$es, wanting to restrict what people can and can't do. And the PEOPLE are always the ones who have to set them straight.

I know the vaping community is scared, but cow-towing to the FDAs stance by accepting their premise that new people who are not smokers should not vape, is the exact wrong thing to do as it goes against the spirit of America. We have never waited for permission to do anything.... this country was built on rebellion.

Here's hoping the vaping community rethinks their strategy and stands tall and strong, and in great numbers. Without excuses.
 

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Everyone thinks they know better than the next guy what's best for them. How'd that work for you when people told you the same? We all need to be free to make our own choices, good AND bad. And there's no proof yet vaping is bad AND people who don't smoke don't use nic, so they will not become addicted to vaping. If it turns out to be a bad idea, they can stop. Up to them.
 

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Remm, I respect your opinion but I still can not advocate a non-nicotine user to begin vaping. My reasoning has already been made clear. Yes, I do fear that the FDA can and most certainly will use someone like the OP to prove their point that e-cigarettes pose a risk of hooking non-smokers into a habit. Despite what some say, the FDA does have the power to ban all e-cigarettes if that is what they want to do. Whether they will go to that extreme, I don't know. But I don't want to give the FDA any more ammunition than they already have. Is that selfish on my part? Maybe it is, but we as vapors and nicotine addicts have our own self-interests to protect.

I'm noticing that the people who are agreeing to allow the OP to go ahead and vape are very new members. How long have you been vaping? Are any of you even aware of the potential of vaping possibly coming to an abrupt stop...at least legally?

The FDA has already in the past proposed banning any e-cig device manufactured past the year 2007. That got shot down by CASAA. Victory for us in round one. What will happen if they try it again and win? What are you going to be vaping then?
 
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Remm

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You are shooting yourself in the foot!! And vaping is not addictive to people who do not use nic... as I won't either. It's a nonsensical argument.

It seems to me it's more that the vaping community is steeped in its thinking, and needs to stop a minute and truly rethink this. If the FDA DID outlaw vaping, you need more than just smokers fighting to overturn that... you need AMERICANS period, standing up. Sorry to say no one feels bad for smokers. They have been made out to be pariahs. When overweight people cost the country much more than smokers, (all the health related diseases such as heart issues, diabetes, bad knees and back, etc). But no one will outlaw fast food or donuts or other stuff because TOO MANY PEOPLE WANT IT. Same with vaping... you need NUMBERS. And this is not about recruiting, but simply dropping the "smokers only" attitude and welcoming with solid advice and a friendly handshake anyone over 18 who wanders in... especially when they don't plan on using nic. And that's certain fair to advise!!
 
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