Shouldn't you have used our service, then call us a fraud based on your experience?
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C'mon now "Any"...
Really?
I have a real estate business here in Arizona.
We are currently selling premium ocean front properties for $500 an acre.
Please send $5000.00 to reserve your lot and we will send you our information packet
and informative brochure. Our refund policy is enclosed in the information packet.
Thank you...
Fly by Night Industries, LLC.
P.O. Box 69, Beaver Street
Intercourse, PA
Really?
I have a real estate business here in Arizona.
We are currently selling premium ocean front properties for $500 an acre.
Please send $5000.00 to reserve your lot and we will send you our information packet
and informative brochure. Our refund policy is enclosed in the information packet.
Thank you...
Fly by Night Industries, LLC.
P.O. Box 69, Beaver Street
Intercourse, PA
I busted out laughing at your post Cash!
This is better than a soap opera!
Gimme some popcorn too!!
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Yum!
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Manufacturer > Distributor > Retailer > End User
Choose one.
This is better than a soap opera!
Gimme some popcorn too!!
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Yum!
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Manufacturer > Distributor > Retailer > End User
Choose one.
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Lol, Sorry. Wasnt tryin to call you out.
That last bit was aimed at Any.
But thats quite amusing too
That last bit was aimed at Any.
But thats quite amusing too
None of the above. Just an irrelevant channel who collects orders from customers and passes them back to the manufacturer, while making a bigger profit THAN the manufacturer. Nuff said.
I think there might have been a misunderstanding about:
manufacturer> distributor> retailer> end user
It was merely a rhetorical statement and does not require a response.
Please note that sometimes the channel is:
Manufacturer> Retailer> End User
My point was that this is the typical flow of the sales channel in the US. It is generally an unacceptable practice for manufacturers to deal with the end user. Although, if manufacturers do choose to sell direct, they usually set their pricing at MSRP or above to allow their established channels to beat the pricing. Many people in the US are employed via this established sales channel. Also, manufacturers are not usually set up to do business with end users in that their customer service is basically non-existent.
Distributors and retailers invest time and money educating and serving their end users -- Cultivating the market. This gives the end user a point of contact to either buy more stuff or have serviced what does not work (warranty). It also allows the end user to enjoy faster/cheaper shipping and more responsive communication. It is a relationship arrangement based on service and trust.
Any manufacturer that decides to "cut in" on this arrangement to get more $$ does so at the risk of alienating existing distributors and retailers. It is unwise to compete head on with your own retailers. Manufacturers like this become known in the industry and are shunned.
Unless you speak the native language of the manufacturer and can be sure of your rights of returns, service, etc. It is best to deal with the companies that have established the market and continue to invest in it.
And on another note: End users should be wary of dealing direct with manufacturers. Though you did get that incredible deal, what happens if you have problems with a manufacturer and their product or service, where do you go to complain? And what happens to that complaint? What if they don't care? What if they are clearly negligent? Who can you go to? Will the US government help you? The police? Their local government? NOT!
But that is just my humble opinion.
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Cage, I am highly interested in the oceanfront property. Where can I send a check to? lol.
I think what happens MANY times, is there is probably only one or two manufactures making these. I wouldn't be too surprised if 901/7075 are made by same factory but marketed/sold as seperate manufactures. And yes I know the manufactures "name" but I'd bet it's actually one factory. They all get from one, relable and resell as different manufacture. There are others online in this very forum that claim to be the "manufacture" but after a little research you find out they are just going to the factory picking up product and shipping it and most people don't know the difference. This time Any got caught. They aren't the factory, but maybe live across street/town and pose as factory/affiliate. What they are is basically a "middleman" or "retailer" You can buy from them, and they will be the customer service person. That is what I gather.
Just my 2 cents
I think what happens MANY times, is there is probably only one or two manufactures making these. I wouldn't be too surprised if 901/7075 are made by same factory but marketed/sold as seperate manufactures. And yes I know the manufactures "name" but I'd bet it's actually one factory. They all get from one, relable and resell as different manufacture. There are others online in this very forum that claim to be the "manufacture" but after a little research you find out they are just going to the factory picking up product and shipping it and most people don't know the difference. This time Any got caught. They aren't the factory, but maybe live across street/town and pose as factory/affiliate. What they are is basically a "middleman" or "retailer" You can buy from them, and they will be the customer service person. That is what I gather.
Just my 2 cents
End users should be wary of dealing direct with manufacturers. Though you did get that incredible deal, what happens if you have problems with a manufacturer and their product or service, where do you go to complain? And what happens to that complaint? What if they don't care? What if they are clearly negligent? Who can you go to? Will the US government help you? The police? Their local government? NOT!
But that is just my humble opinion.
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I have enjoyed great service at a great deal from Absolutelyecigs.com and many people has good things to say about david yang or bestecig.
While i agree with your opinions, there are many others who have suffered worse fate by buying from distributors such as smokenotar and smokingeverywhere.
True, true. If they keep their business going with good customer service they will survive. If they don't, like the ones you mention, they will be out of business soon enough. But it is still difficult to get consistent customer service when your "middleman" is having "night" when you are having "day".
Good investigative work regarding Any.
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True, true. If they keep their business going with good customer service they will survive. If they don't, like the ones you mention, they will be out of business soon enough. But it is still difficult to get consistent customer service when your "middleman" is having "night" when you are having "day".
Good investigative work regarding Any.
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Thanks. I like your analysis of the US distribution chain scenario too.
A Chinese agent who cannot spell the city he/she is from?
Is there an "official" English spelling of Chinese cities? I am reasonably sure the city is not spelled with English letters at all, and any representation of the city name with English letters is a phonetic approximation.
I'm not making fun Fedor, I really don't know the answer. It's an off topic question, but as we're trying to establish where Any is from, I think this type of mistake leads me to more strongly believe he/they are in China.
EDIT: Yeah, I called 'em ENGLISH letters, but I'm sure they are Roman or some such. I'm *much* too lazy to find out. Please correct me
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Well as to spelling, in all fairness could it have been a typeo? Also, they generally write in chinese characters not letters. Maybe Any's english not good and misspelled? I don't know. Not defending them, just pointing out ideas.
Is there an "official" English spelling of Chinese cities? I am reasonably sure the city is not spelled with English letters at all, and any representation of the city name with English letters is a phonetic approximation.
I'm not making fun Fedor, I really don't know the answer. It's an off topic question, but as we're trying to establish where Any is from, I think this type of mistake leads me to more strongly believe he/they are in China.
EDIT: Yeah, I called 'em ENGLISH letters, but I'm sure they are Roman or some such. I'm *much* too lazy to find out. Please correct me
If you travel in China, you will see signs on highways and cities all having the city names in English and yes, Shenzhen is an official spelling. Check airlines across the world and see that Shenzhen is spelled the same way.
Typos are normal but when you repeatedly spell the same word the same way, its not a typo. Try emailing any Chinese supplier and see if they will spell their own city wrongly. David yang has always said his english is not good (although i think he is being humble) but he never spelt his city wrongly.
Also, most Chinese will never spell their city wrongly cos its always part of their company name. For example, Shenzhen Meatball Technology Co Ltd. or Shanghai Crazy Milk Powder Processsing Co. Ltd. When you literally translate chinese company names, it always follows the format of "<Province/ City name> <Company Name>". I know this cos i worked in China for some time.
Hope you find this little piece of info useful....
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