New APV help needed!

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SexyPickle

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I am shopping for a new APV & need help. I have been vaping 16 months & really sick of the let down by all the batteries out there. I have 5 eGo batts going up in ohm that dont last me all day, a Blade mod that is a pain to use & 2- X6 sticks that have good power for only an hour. I want an APV that has great power ALL day that I dont have to worry about keeping an extra batt w/ me at all times. I have been looking at the evic, sid, & zmax but its all really confusing. I dont have much knowledge on watts & volts, so I would like a setup that I can put my smok DCT tank on & vape all day. I would like a puff counter but its not mandatory. I have about $100 to spend. Please help!
 

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MVP2 kit can be had for 40-50 bucks and doesn't require extra batteries/charger, supposedly lasts a LONG time.

I'm happy with my sigelei zmax ( I will recommend ONLY sigelei and ONLY in brushed stainless, I don't know about the others) but you need to buy a couple 18650 batts and a charger. The 18650 should be enough to last anyone all day. I vape all day on an 18350 battery and keep the mod in it's shortest setting. Mod + batts + charger will almost max out your price point.

I've heard mixed reviews about the evic, most sid owners (from what I've read) seem to like them.

Hope this is helpful.
 

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I've gone for the Kmax in black and copper with the later screen as Vapor Break had some still as the other Chinese outlets seemed to have stopped selling them, its on a par with a Vamo etc for an APV, lots of features and functions, I am using a T5 Lava Tube at the moment which is fairly good going.

Provari's do seem to hold the popularity from what I have seen around being at the quality end, Vamo's are cheap as chips but their finish's have a lot of people up in arms as they apparently scratch and lose their coating easily but at that price, who really cares as long as it still works I would say :) I look at the Vamo and think Hmmm £2 roll of Fablon vinyl will soon solve that problem...

I have found too that batteries are a real factor in the APV game, the mech mods work all day on a single battery charge but the Lava Tube sucks the life out of cheaper batteries really quick once you go over the 3.7
 

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The Lavatube V2.5 from Volcano is a good choice. The Lavatube clones are sub-par but a true Lavatube from Volcano has great battery life and has superb build quality.

The MVP2 is more-or-less a novelty. It looks great but performs mediocre. I vape quite a bit and when I'm not using my rebuildables I am vaping clearo/carto's on my black Lavatube.
 
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yzer

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MVP2 will eventually let you down. The battery is not replaceable and you will need to buy yet another rig when the battery goes splat. All Li-ion batteries eventually tire out with use. That's why so many experienced vapers go to replaceable batteries.

I recommend a Sigelei Zmax. These are excellent VV/VW rigs. You can find solid tube models in full size or mini. The Sigelei Zmax V3 or V5 Telescopics let you use any of these batteries: 18350, 2x18350, 18490, 18500 or 18650 without changing out tubes or buying two different sized units.

Sigelei quality is hard to beat. I've been using my Sigelei Zmax V3 telescopic Flat Top all day long for almost eight months now.
 

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Any of the APV's that use one 18650 and/or two 18350's will provide 8 - 12 hours of use depending on how you vape. Along with the one's you mentioned, the Vamo V5 is another option that actually costs less. Plus loose batteries have 2 - 3 times the lifespan than ego type batteries and cost half as much. I would suggest AW or Panasonic batteries. Vamo V5:

http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?pag...color_plus.tpl&product_id=2291&category_id=76
 

Revelene

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Does Smok & Sigelei both have a zmax? If so whats the diff?

Smok is the original maker. Sigelei is more-or-less a clone with modifications. If you truly want a Zmax... meh, at least get a Sigelei.

Honestly, get a Lavatube V2.5 and save yourself the trouble. The Zmax has issues with airflow and does not output what it says it does half the time and has many many other issues that may arise like button issues and battery connection issues... Most people don't notice because they are used to using cheap APVs and are now accustomed to it.
 

yzer

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Smok is the original maker. Sigelei is more-or-less a clone with modifications. If you truly want a Zmax... meh, at least get a Sigelei.

Honestly, get a Lavatube V2.5 and save yourself the trouble. The Zmax has issues with airflow and does not output what it says it does half the time and has many many other issues that may arise like button issues and battery connection issues... Most people don't notice because they are used to using cheap APVs and are now accustomed to it.
Sorry. The Sigeleis have excellent voltage regulation if operated in the RMS mode, which is user selectable. Sigelei owners can use the hotter-running mean voltage selection if desired. Watch the three Pbusardo videos on Sigelei Zmax. He tests Sigelei voltage output on an oscilloscope.
 

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MVP2 will eventually let you down. The battery is not replaceable and you will need to buy yet another rig when the battery goes splat. All Li-ion batteries eventually tire out with use. That's why so many experienced vapers go to replaceable batteries.
While I agree with your statement, I'm not sure how much better off you would be with a Chinese replaceable battery APV. I have yet to read any reviews of the Vamo, Zmax or SVD where the owner was still using their APV much after the first set of batters has died. They don't seem to last much past a year and there's quit a few people who report that their devices died after a few months. You state that you have been using your Zmax for eight months. Do you still expect it to be working at 2 years, 3 years? I'm guessing that you'll need to spend more than $50 to find a APV that's not disposable. If there's options that are durable and less than ~$150 that are going to last much past one set of batteries, I'd be interested to know.
 
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